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UncleMark
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

I think that is exactly right. We’ve stretched the law to extremes already. This is just more stretching. The President is very liberally designating groups and people “terrorists.”

How is this different from bombing the Houthis?  

The Houthis are shooting at us. 

 


Posted : 09/04/2025 12:55 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

This is specifically about killing drug runners on a boat off South American. Do you think this is how we normally handle gun runners in boats off the coast of South (or Central) America, but this is just the first time it hasn’t been highly classified? Do you BELIEVE that? 

I believe we bomb and kill terrorists wherever we find them.  Obama kept a target list in the Oval Office and allegedly approved every attack on “civilian” terrorists. 


Posted : 09/04/2025 12:56 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

I think that is exactly right. We’ve stretched the law to extremes already. This is just more stretching. The President is very liberally designating groups and people “terrorists.”

How is this different from bombing the Houthis?  

The Houthi's don't kill Americans and Tren De Argua does? 

 


Posted : 09/04/2025 12:58 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @unclemark

The Houthis are shooting at us. 

Right.  And the drug cartels are mostly peaceful distributors of injectable poison. 


Posted : 09/04/2025 12:59 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

I think that is exactly right. We’ve stretched the law to extremes already. This is just more stretching. The President is very liberally designating groups and people “terrorists.”

How is this different from bombing the Houthis?  

Piracy, disrupting international shipping, attacking international shipping, and attacking the US Navy are all acts of war. Plus, they have attached Israel and they are a treaty ally.

You support summary executions of drug dealers on the streets of Any-Town, USA too?

 


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Posted : 09/04/2025 1:40 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

I believe we bomb and kill terrorists wherever we find them.  Obama kept a target list in the Oval Office and allegedly approved every attack on “civilian” terrorists. 

Many of those who thought President Obama approving a strike and killing an actual terrorist who happened to be an American was a criminal act will have no issues whatsoever with any strike President Trump orders. Concur?


Posted : 09/04/2025 1:41 pm
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CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Many of those who thought President Obama approving a strike and killing an actual terrorist who happened to be an American was a criminal act will have no issues whatsoever with any strike President Trump orders. Concur?

Not exactly.  I’ve said that President Obama has absolute immunity for that act.  Same for President Trump. 


Posted : 09/04/2025 2:43 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Piracy, disrupting international shipping, attacking international shipping, and attacking the US Navy are all acts of war. Plus, they have attached Israel and they are a treaty ally.

Why does that difference make a difference?  We are talking about people who traffic in contraband, and people, inside the U.S.  Moreover they kill cops, prosecutors, and judges of our ally.  In the case of Venezuela, the government is part of the criminality.

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

You support summary executions of drug dealers on the streets of Any-Town, USA too?

surprised and disappointed you would even ask such a question.  

 

 


Posted : 09/04/2025 2:49 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

U.S. government is claiming Maduro is the head of a drug cartel shipping fentanyl-laced cocaine into U.S.  We've declared their govt a terrorist organization and some other South American countries have joined.  

We will know more if the sound engineers roll in with their big amps and big speakers.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-40090809

 

 

 

A few things:

  1. Guns and Roses is NOT heavy metal. 
  2. I mean, Grenada went alright? And the British had fun in the Falklands. Why not?
  3. Look at all that ocean front property
  4. Oil

And in a world cup year? Hell yeah brother. Show the world how we play in the New World. 

 

 

You're missing the best reason to make Venezuela the 51st state:

https://www.instagram.com/beautifulgirls.vene/?hl=en

https://www.ranker.com/list/hottest-venezuelan-women/michaelchoi

 

I'm ready to invade now!

 


Posted : 09/04/2025 3:17 pm
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BradStevens
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

Posted by: @unclemark

The Houthis are shooting at us. 

Right.  And the drug cartels are mostly peaceful distributors of injectable poison. 

Well played.  

 


Topic starter Posted : 09/04/2025 3:22 pm
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If we know the boat, we keep watching it. It has to do something, meet with a mother ship or dock. That is when we swarm it and catch the boat and the mother ship or the people set to take possession of the drugs. We actually get more people into our net.


Posted : 09/04/2025 3:52 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

 

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Piracy, disrupting Benezzuelan  shipping, attacking international shipping, and attacking the US Navy are all acts of war. Plus, they have attached Israel and they are a treaty ally.

Why does that difference make a difference?  We are talking about people who traffic in contraband, and people, inside the U.S.  Moreover they kill cops, prosecutors, and judges of our ally.  In the case of Venezuela, the government is part of the criminality.

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

You support summary executions of drug dealers on the streets of Any-Town, USA too?

surprised and disappointed you would even ask such a question.  

 

 

There’s a huge difference which should require no explanation to you.

Your previously conservative Republican positions have evolved into authoritarian MAGA Republicans positions. While I was in the Navy if we’d summarily blown a drug running boat out of the water and killed the drug runners it would have been a gigantic controversy and heads would have rolled. Next step is summarily executing Venezuelan drug dealers on the streets.    


Posted : 09/04/2025 4:10 pm
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Do we know what kind of drugs were in the boat? Have they confirmed it was fentanyl?

 

What if it was just cocaine? Are they really killing people over some harmless cocaine? Seems rash.


Posted : 09/04/2025 4:22 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @carramrod

Are they really killing people over some harmless cocaine? Seems rash.

 

 


Topic starter Posted : 09/04/2025 4:31 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @carramrod

Are they really killing people over some harmless cocaine? Seems rash.

 

 

This is the part where those who partake in illegal drugs opine on which illegal drugs require execution for the drug runners and which illegal drugs for which the drug runners need armed escorts for protection. 😎

 


Posted : 09/04/2025 4:56 pm
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