Im not sure you could be more wrong. Those are exactly the types that are most likely to be revolutionaries.Those who can work at Starbucks with a keyboard have a problem, but those kinds of people are the least likely to be revolutionaries.
Those types are followers, not leaders, especially not leaders of a revolution.
Those who work the dirty jobs will always have work.
i think this is mostly true. it is crazy to think how much work AI can eliminate. i wouldn't be rushing out to get that marketing degree etc.
the one big thing about ai is that it doesn't build relationships. ive sat on a number of nonprofit boards. AI came up in the context of being able to do a lot of what a development person does. yes. they can create campaigns. complete grant apps etc. but so much of how a development person secures funding is predicated on building personal relationships. i think people in positions that interact with other people will never be replaced by AI
You are spot on with the relationship observation. Relationships are vital for almost all human endeavors. This is why I don’t think AI can ever create a classic piece of art, music, poem, or whatever. The intangible relationship with the creator is vital.
The link answers itself. The laptop class don’t have the chops to think about a revolution let alone, let alone pull one off.
Now if AI were to eliminate the jobs of those who must show up, who can’t do their jobs from home, who spend their days with improvisation and problem solving, then I would be more concerned.
Only half kidding here. Those who work the dirty jobs will always have work. Those who can work at Starbucks with a keyboard have a problem, but those kinds of people are the least likely to be revolutionaries.
AI will absolutely eliminate jobs requiring improvisation and problem solving. Guaranteed. It will be faster, more efficient, and less error prone than humans at MOST things. Period.
How much can we reasonably increase productivity before it's no longer desirable or useful? How far can we drive down prices before the whole thing collapses on itself?
Believe me, it's not just the gig workers and start up bros at Starbucks. Most insurance adjusters will disappear. Sure, nobody cares but those are solid middle class jobs that provide a pathway to the uppler middle class for many with only a high school diploma or bachelor's degree. Same for most accounting jobs. All Tier 1/2 customer service/support jobs....gone.
If a decision is subject to error, that decision is not what I am talking about. Right now there is a dispute about whether to build a 10 story income-qualified apartment adjacent to a neighborhood of high end homes in Denver. AI is useless for that kind of decision.
AI would not be able to determine choices among compeating alternatives that require professional, or even nonprofessional, judgment.
Insurance adjusters now use algorithms to adjust claims. Nothing new there, except that people call something AI that has been around for a while.
@co-hoosier You couldn't be more wrong. Name a major revolution led by a member of the "dirty jobs" class.
Compare with American Revolutionary war leaders, leaders of the French Revolution, and leaders of the Bolsheviks. Lenin? law degree. Trotsky? college drop out who studied engineering and math. Castro? Law student. Guevera? medical student.
Those who work the dirty jobs will always have work.
i think this is mostly true. it is crazy to think how much work AI can eliminate. i wouldn't be rushing out to get that marketing degree etc.
the one big thing about ai is that it doesn't build relationships. ive sat on a number of nonprofit boards. AI came up in the context of being able to do a lot of what a development person does. yes. they can create campaigns. complete grant apps etc. but so much of how a development person secures funding is predicated on building personal relationships. i think people in positions that interact with other people will never be replaced by AI
It's kind of scary how good the AI is getting though. Elon says Grok 4 operates at a PHD level. Said he's able to run although the most complex problems he worked on from his materials science and engineering days and immediately get the correct answer almost every time. Some jobs will definitely go away.
Does that mean the job goes away, or does the job become easier? It still takes somebody like Elon to tell Grok what to do.
With AI enabled trucks, it takes a lot less skill to back up a semi, but it still takes an operator.
Those who work the dirty jobs will always have work.
i think this is mostly true. it is crazy to think how much work AI can eliminate. i wouldn't be rushing out to get that marketing degree etc.
the one big thing about ai is that it doesn't build relationships. ive sat on a number of nonprofit boards. AI came up in the context of being able to do a lot of what a development person does. yes. they can create campaigns. complete grant apps etc. but so much of how a development person secures funding is predicated on building personal relationships. i think people in positions that interact with other people will never be replaced by AI
It's kind of scary how good the AI is getting though. Elon says Grok 4 operates at a PHD level. Said he's able to run although the most complex problems he worked on from his materials science and engineering days and immediately get the correct answer almost every time. Some jobs will definitely go away.
Yet you and your ilk disregard Ph.D. in matters of their actual expertise.
Those who work the dirty jobs will always have work.
i think this is mostly true. it is crazy to think how much work AI can eliminate. i wouldn't be rushing out to get that marketing degree etc.
the one big thing about ai is that it doesn't build relationships. ive sat on a number of nonprofit boards. AI came up in the context of being able to do a lot of what a development person does. yes. they can create campaigns. complete grant apps etc. but so much of how a development person secures funding is predicated on building personal relationships. i think people in positions that interact with other people will never be replaced by AI
Will we need college universities for much longer? Seems like AI can do everything you need to learn.
https://twitter.com/DailyLoud/status/1935334604912869790?t=ADlO401U5FeGSAW3sRa1Kw&s=19
If a decision is subject to error, that decision is not what I am talking about. Right now there is a dispute about whether to build a 10 story income-qualified apartment adjacent to a neighborhood of high end homes in Denver. AI is useless for that kind of decision.
Data over feelings. I agree politicians won't ever become strictly AI based but they will definitely use AI to model sentiment, do cost benefit analysis, long term economic impacts, etc. Guess who's doing a lot of that today. Also, AI might need to make those decisions.
AI might be the death of NIMBY or it might make it 100x worse. That's the fun of it.
In theory AI should make life a lot easier. It should cut the amount of work that we as humans need to do to survive down drastically. The question is given that there will likely be a lot less work available what do we do with the people that cannot find enough work to support themselves? It will be very interesting to see how this all plays out over the next decade or so.
(This could easily be a good, bad, and the ugly thread.)
Basic paradigm shift: Whereas once we had the rich, the merchant/professional class (including politicians), and the workers, we are already transforming into the creators/owners, the executives, the AI-literate professionals, and the vast ignorant class.
The good: Optimization. In a sense contrary to above assertions about AI not replacing human interaction, AI optimization will pre-empt much of the current need for human interaction. For example, taxation will be exactly codified and completely automated, so no need for tax accountants, tax lawyers, or even tax lawsuits.
Human diet will be optimized, not leading to Soylent Green, but leading to vast automated algae plantations, requiring very little hands-on work. Both starvation and McDonalds will be virtually eliminated from the planet.
The bad: Ignorance. The knowledge gap between the creators and the consumers is already unbridgeable and on its way to unfathomable as AI deskills people’s ability to actually know (as opposed to asking and believing AI).
Unemployment. The need for manual labor will decrease beyond current comprehension. Consumption will decrease considerably as the creator class limits the choice of the ignorant class to primarily entertainment options, the simplest way to control people. In short, the ignorant will eat their algae burgers and watch their boob tubes.
The ugly: Unrest. The transition will be marked by attempts to control various factors of production and control and by attempts to rebel. Eventually this will be quashed by the creator class controlling unimaginably superior weapons that don’t even need to kill to win.
On a political level, there will be attempts to transform society into some sort of egalitarian or socialist form of economy and government. This will likewise be quashed and eventually we will have an aristocracy of the creators with everyone else begging for anything and everything.
Conclusion: Don’t be one of the ignorant.
Grim. Although I like the thought of more, perfect images of AI boobs on the internet. That alone might dampen the urge to rebel.(This could easily be a good, bad, and the ugly thread.)
Basic paradigm shift: Whereas once we had the rich, the merchant/professional class (including politicians), and the workers, we are already transforming into the creators/owners, the executives, the AI-literate professionals, and the vast ignorant class.
The good: Optimization. In a sense contrary to above assertions about AI not replacing human interaction, AI optimization will pre-empt much of the current need for human interaction. For example, taxation will be exactly codified and completely automated, so no need for tax accountants, tax lawyers, or even tax lawsuits.
Human diet will be optimized, not leading to Soylent Green, but leading to vast automated algae plantations, requiring very little hands-on work. Both starvation and McDonalds will be virtually eliminated from the planet.
The bad: Ignorance. The knowledge gap between the creators and the consumers is already unbridgeable and on its way to unfathomable as AI deskills people’s ability to actually know (as opposed to asking and believing AI).
Unemployment. The need for manual labor will decrease beyond current comprehension. Consumption will decrease considerably as the creator class limits the choice of the ignorant class to primarily entertainment options, the simplest way to control people. In short, the ignorant will eat their algae burgers and watch their boob tubes.
The ugly: Unrest. The transition will be marked by attempts to control various factors of production and control and by attempts to rebel. Eventually this will be quashed by the creator class controlling unimaginably superior weapons that don’t even need to kill to win.