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Posted by: @bulk-vh

Oh, and throw the book at him.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/homeowner-charged-with-voluntary-manslaughter-in-fatal-shooting-of-cleaning-worker-who-arrived-at-wrong-whitestown-home/531-d9caf5ac-77f4-4af0-905d-b467be0cc1cf?tbref=hp

Not so fast my friend!

Castle Doctrine + Guy Relford are a formidable foe.

 


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Posted : 11/18/2025 8:13 am
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Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @bulk-vh

Oh, and throw the book at him.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/homeowner-charged-with-voluntary-manslaughter-in-fatal-shooting-of-cleaning-worker-who-arrived-at-wrong-whitestown-home/531-d9caf5ac-77f4-4af0-905d-b467be0cc1cf?tbref=hp

Not so fast my friend!

Castle Doctrine + Guy Relford are a formidable foe.

 

I am sure he feared for his life because someone was on his porch. 

No one should be rooting for him to escape justice

 


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Posted : 11/18/2025 8:27 am
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Posted by: @bulk-vh

Oh, and throw the book at him.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/homeowner-charged-with-voluntary-manslaughter-in-fatal-shooting-of-cleaning-worker-who-arrived-at-wrong-whitestown-home/531-d9caf5ac-77f4-4af0-905d-b467be0cc1cf?tbref=hp

Not so fast my friend!

Castle Doctrine + Guy Relford are a formidable foe.

 

I was commenting on what should happen, not what will happen.  Another layer of the sadness of this story.

 


 
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Topic starter Posted : 11/18/2025 8:33 am
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Without all the pertinent facts and details, tragic for all parties involved. I'm left with way more questions than answers at this point. 


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Posted : 11/18/2025 9:22 am
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@bulk-vh impossible to say without more facts as all4you said. But damn seems trigger happy as hell. It was 7 am not 2 in the morning.  Look out the window. Say hey who is at the door?   Weird


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Posted : 11/18/2025 9:33 am
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@mcm666 

In many states, the castle doctrine requires the intruder to be illegally in the home, not just trying to open a door.  Indiana’s law is unreasonable itself, but it’s the law.  


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Posted : 11/18/2025 9:39 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

@mcm666 

In many states, the castle doctrine requires the intruder to be illegally in the home, not just trying to open a door.  Indiana’s law is unreasonable itself, but it’s the law.  

I’m sure that will be a huge comfort to her family.

As I said, I was commenting on the should.

 


 
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Topic starter Posted : 11/18/2025 9:52 am
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@bulk-vh 

Maybe this tragedy will result in a change to Indiana law.  


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Posted : 11/18/2025 9:59 am
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Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @bulk-vh

Oh, and throw the book at him.

https://www.wthr.com/article/news/local/homeowner-charged-with-voluntary-manslaughter-in-fatal-shooting-of-cleaning-worker-who-arrived-at-wrong-whitestown-home/531-d9caf5ac-77f4-4af0-905d-b467be0cc1cf?tbref=hp

Not so fast my friend!

Castle Doctrine + Guy Relford are a formidable foe.

 

I am sure he feared for his life because someone was on his porch. 

No one should be rooting for him to escape justice

 

You have no idea what justice is. 

 


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Posted : 11/18/2025 10:51 am
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@bradstevens defense attorney’s first task is to get rid of that middle part


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Posted : 11/18/2025 11:07 am
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Posted by: @mcm666

@bradstevens defense attorney’s first task is to get rid of that middle part

Defense attorney's main task will be weeding snakes like hurryinghoosiers out of the jury box.  I believe a guy like Bulk would admit his upfront bias in response to questions, but dishonest people like HH will try to lie to get on the jury to achieve "justice."  

I don't know what to make of the case. The linked story is actually pretty in depth for this stage of a case.  I don't know how much changes.  Based on it, I personally would have a tough time thinking the guy acted objectively reasonably, but would also have a tough time finding he didn't subjectively fear someone was breaking into his home.  A tragedy all around.  

 


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Posted : 11/18/2025 12:32 pm
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@bradstevens it is. And they obviously didn’t have money or she wouldn’t be cleaning houses. No way to sue. Homeowners covers accidental shootings. Not intentional.  So those 4 kids have no mom and no money when they turn 18


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Posted : 11/18/2025 12:38 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

@bulk-vh 

Maybe this tragedy will result in a change to Indiana law.  

Once again, what a comfort.

 


 
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Topic starter Posted : 11/18/2025 12:49 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @mcm666

@bradstevens defense attorney’s first task is to get rid of that middle part

Defense attorney's main task will be weeding snakes like hurryinghoosiers out of the jury box.  I believe a guy like Bulk would admit his upfront bias in response to questions, but dishonest people like HH will try to lie to get on the jury to achieve "justice."  

I don't know what to make of the case. The linked story is actually pretty in depth for this stage of a case.  I don't know how much changes.  Based on it, I personally would have a tough time thinking the guy acted objectively reasonably, but would also have a tough time finding he didn't subjectively fear someone was breaking into his home.  A tragedy all around.  

 

My only "upfront bias" in this case is that this guy shouldn't be allowed to shoot a woman standing on his porch in broad daylight without announcing himself or giving warning of his intentions.

I know he probably won't be found guilty, but I hope his guilt is crushing, and he is never allowed, even by his friends, family, and neighbors, to be comfortable with the consequences of his actions.

 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 11/18/2025 12:58 pm
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