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dbmhoosier
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This is a great interview if you want to learn the ones and outs of the cover up.  Yeah Tucker has gotten a little crazy as of late but this is really good. The deep state is real and it's very deep.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:14 pm
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Even when they are trying to be transparent, they manage to really screw it up.

 

The video they released has a minute missing out of it with no explanation.   

 

Do I think it has anything to do with what happened to him, not in the least.  That's not the same cell he died in, but these little mess ups really are making the DOJ look inept.


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:14 pm
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Is any of this debate just about semantics? 

Eliminate the use of the word "list." Do you believe it is important to know the names of the people accused of having sex on Epstein Island with underaged girls?  

I think it's gross and they should go after whoever they can go after, but I don't really care about knowing the names, myself.  

Of course, none of this excuses elected officials being deceptive with the American public.  Maybe we're used to it at this point, but it sure seems like a lot of people are angry about this.  

If a government released the names of those accused, or of those in the plane, or of those on the island, we’d increase the national debt by $T’s just  to pay the damage claims.  If the government has the goods to bring indictments, it should do so, otherwise this “list” business is finished.  

 

Under what cause of action?

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:17 pm
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@aloha-hoosier (The flight logs containing names of everyone that flew on his plane was used as evidence in the Maxwell trial. It’s available online.) 

Yes, but those flight logs are not really the same thing as "Epstein's List." There are a myriad of reasons someone may have flown on Epstein's plane. But, to the general public, and more so the lunatic fringes, there is only one reason someone's name would appear on Epstein's List.

 

I don't believe an "Epstein's List" ever existed. I tried to find the origin of that and the earliest mentions of it were on a wingnut site then it spread to people like Alex Jones and other conspiracy theorists regularly viewed by wingnuts and then was spread by MAGA wingnuts on social media. The last release of documents really had nothing in them that wasn't already known due to the Maxwell trial. This final batch probably has nothing more, plus porno videos.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:22 pm
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@bradstevens i don't htink there is one.   ftca excludes defamation etc


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:22 pm
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@aloha-hoosier 

 

All of them?  If so people could make their own list. 

I linked it two or three times on the WC. I'm not going to look for it again while on my phone. You can find it pretty easily if you want to. 

I have no idea if every person that flew on the plane is listed, but it's a long log with names like Trump, Clinton and other big wigs on it. There was no testimony in Maxwell's trial that Trump and Clinton were involved in any of the criminal pedo behavior.

 

Flew on the plane, but no evidence Trump flew to the island.

 

No there isn't and I have said that. I don't really think Bondi and Patel are covering for the President. I've just put that out there as an example of unsupported speculation that has been out there from the beginning of the Epstein saga. The President only added some smoke when he claimed that he was never on Epstein's plane at all when the logs show he flew seven times on it. No reason to lie when the logs and testimony don't show that he was ever on the island. I chalk it up to his habit of lying even when there is no reason to lie.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:30 pm
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1942621465041653950

 

He really wants this to go away, but that isn't the answer to do it.


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:33 pm
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1942621465041653950

 

He really wants this to go away, but that isn't the answer to do it.

He does seem to badly want it to go away.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:37 pm
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He really wants this to go away

 

There was never going to be the release of a list.  I think he underestimated the number of people who have dug in on the subject though.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:38 pm
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@aloha-hoosier (The flight logs containing names of everyone that flew on his plane was used as evidence in the Maxwell trial. It’s available online.) 

Yes, but those flight logs are not really the same thing as "Epstein's List." There are a myriad of reasons someone may have flown on Epstein's plane. But, to the general public, and more so the lunatic fringes, there is only one reason someone's name would appear on Epstein's List.

 

I've more or less resigned myself to the fact that outside of Esptein and Maxwell, no one is actually going to be held accountable here. The Trump administration is quick to want to sweep this under the rug, but I'm not convinced any administration's DOJ wouldn't want to move on from this just as quickly. 

I do think that this AG is a special kind of stupid though. I wish someone would hold her feet to the fire and ask her about what was on her desk in February, but no one will. 

 

If you characterize the Trump admin as being quick to sweep it under the rug, how would you characterize the Biden admin’s handling of it given they had the evidence for far longer?

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:39 pm
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@boogie 

It's not going away.  Notice how Vance is staying out of this.  He knows how important it is to the base.


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:42 pm
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Is any of this debate just about semantics? 

Eliminate the use of the word "list." Do you believe it is important to know the names of the people accused of having sex on Epstein Island with underaged girls?  

I think it's gross and they should go after whoever they can go after, but I don't really care about knowing the names, myself.  

Of course, none of this excuses elected officials being deceptive with the American public.  Maybe we're used to it at this point, but it sure seems like a lot of people are angry about this.  

If a government released the names of those accused, or of those in the plane, or of those on the island, we’d increase the national debt by $T’s just  to pay the damage claims.  If the government has the goods to bring indictments, it should do so, otherwise this “list” business is finished.  

 

Under what cause of action?

 

Bivens claim for liberty interest

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:43 pm
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1942621465041653950

 

He really wants this to go away, but that isn't the answer to do it.

He does seem to badly want it to go away.

 

Because he knows it was a campaign promise that he won't be able to fulfill.  He'd like to but he thinks peace in the Middle East and protecting the involved Intel agencies is more important.  We can't have peace if he blows the lid off Mossads blackmail operation.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:47 pm
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@noodle 

 

Bondi’s answer that the list referenced by the questioner was sitting on her desk was careless and sloppy.  I’m not sure about irresponsible.  She shudda said that she will need to review the material and then move on.  I think the whole idea of a list is a media creation. I don’t recall any official saying they have seen one.  


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:53 pm
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Posted by: @boogie
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https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1942621465041653950

 

He really wants this to go away, but that isn't the answer to do it.

He does seem to badly want it to go away.

 

Because he knows it was a campaign promise that he won't be able to fulfill.  He'd like to but he thinks peace in the Middle East and protecting the involved Intel agencies is more important.  We can't have peace if he blows the lid off Mossads blackmail operation.

 

Really dumb speculation. This supposed "Mossads blackmail operation" only exists in the fevered conspiratorial minds of MAGA wingnuts. And also, in the minds of antisemitic conspiracy theorists. Some of them are the same.

 


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Posted : 07/08/2025 12:57 pm
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