cool story bro. You don't think fraud can be rooted out and prosecuted with a out goon squad killing people?
You're talking to a fraud about fraud. Honesty and integrity means nothing to a person like him.
@scam-likely Scam likely. The fraud himself. Go troll somewhere else dipshit. You know you lack the chops to debate on here. Who are you? Another Hickory handle? Moron. Grow some balls. Don’t be a troll. Triggered little baby.
Protestors barricading city blocks, law enforcement has withdrawn.
Looks like another autonomous zone.
This can be easily remedied. All that has to be done is for ICE to stand down and withdraw.
No. No, no, no, no. ICE isn't having these issues anywhere else. Tim Walz and the Minneapolis Mayor and political entities are to blame for this. It sucks you have these people getting killed, but just like Ashli Babbitt, they are doing things in a tense situation that is being stirred up by politicians.
ICE has a legitimate job to do. For decades we have had sanctuary cities and certain states indicating that they don't get involved in immigration because that is a federal issue. Well the Feds are there now doing their job. These pritestors need to be told to go home and stop impeding law enforcement. Furthermore, showing up to a "protest" where you know law enforcement is on edge with a hun and then getting into an altercation is beyond stupid. Should it be a death sentence? No. But what a flipping idiot.
Immigration enforcement is happening. The illegal population is going back one way or another while this administration is in charge. Progressives are going to have to deal with that until the next election much like those of us who didn't like the wide open borders had to wait for the Biden administration to get dumped. That is how things work here. So no, ICE doesn't need to leave, they need to roll in the FBI (not military) and start doing the job that Tim and Jacob won't do.
From watching this full video, all I see is a guy filming with his phone in the street ...and then you have ICE agents massively escalate the situation by knocking the women to the ground and I guess pepper spraying them .. And then with a few seconds straight up execute this guy
The rush to defend the Feds killing people in the streets is very bizarre to me. Is it a smart thing to do to interject yourself into this mess?... Definitely not. But that should in no way let these trigger happy officers off the hook for some really horrible policing.
Protestors barricading city blocks, law enforcement has withdrawn.
Looks like another autonomous zone.
This can be easily remedied. All that has to be done is for ICE to stand down and withdraw.
No. No, no, no, no. ICE isn't having these issues anywhere else. Tim Walz and the Minneapolis Mayor and political entities are to blame for this. It sucks you have these people getting killed, but just like Ashli Babbitt, they are doing things in a tense situation that is being stirred up by politicians.
ICE has a legitimate job to do. For decades we have had sanctuary cities and certain states indicating that they don't get involved in immigration because that is a federal issue. Well the Feds are there now doing their job. These pritestors need to be told to go home and stop impeding law enforcement. Furthermore, showing up to a "protest" where you know law enforcement is on edge with a hun and then getting into an altercation is beyond stupid. Should it be a death sentence? No. But what a flipping idiot.
Immigration enforcement is happening. The illegal population is going back one way or another while this administration is in charge. Progressives are going to have to deal with that until the next election much like those of us who didn't like the wide open borders had to wait for the Biden administration to get dumped. That is how things work here. So no, ICE doesn't need to leave, they need to roll in the FBI (not military) and start doing the job that Tim and Jacob won't do.
From watching this full video, all I see is a guy filming with his phone in the street ...and then you have ICE agents massively escalate the situation by knocking the women to the ground and I guess pepper spraying them .. And then with a few seconds straight up execute this guy
The rush to defend the Feds killing people in the streets is very bizarre to me. Is it a smart thing to do to interject yourself into this mess?... Definitely not. But that should in no way let these trigger happy officers off the hook for some really horrible policing.
No where in my post did I defend how the situation was handled. I did provide context for how we are getting here. ICE shows up to do their job. The Governor and Mayor tell their residents to do what they can to make that legitimate law enforcement job as difficult as possible. Protestors get it in their minds that they are Captain America and are blocking streets (something those women were doing right before the pushing started), throwing stuff at officers, hitting officers with cars, doxxing officers, online threats to shoot officers, threats from the Governor to activate the National Guard to fight officers, and in that climate this dumb and brings a concealed carry weapon to a protest and then gets in a physical altercation with Federal Law enforcement. Now, did these officers react counter to their training? From the video, probably. However that doesn't absolve this idiot from all the decisions he made leading up to his getting shot nor does it absolve Democrats, Walz and Frey in particular, from pouring gas on a fire.
If Trump and someone like Ashli Babbitt get some of the blame for everything that lead up to her being shot, unarmed, then so does this guy and the politicians who egged him on. We have a right to see the immigration laws in this country enforced. The left shouldn't be allowed their heckler's veto on this. Do they deserve to be shot? No. What they deserve is to have either local law enforcement or another federal police force start arresting them for obstruction and making them burn time and money defending themselves in court. You are not allowed to interfere with federal law enforcement in the performance of their job. Being all up on them with your f---ing cell phone does eventually rise to that level.
Discipline the officers but I don't want a withdrawal from Minneapolis. I want the legal hammer dropped on these dipshits.
Protestors barricading city blocks, law enforcement has withdrawn.
Looks like another autonomous zone.
This can be easily remedied. All that has to be done is for ICE to stand down and withdraw.
No. No, no, no, no. ICE isn't having these issues anywhere else. Tim Walz and the Minneapolis Mayor and political entities are to blame for this. It sucks you have these people getting killed, but just like Ashli Babbitt, they are doing things in a tense situation that is being stirred up by politicians.
ICE has a legitimate job to do. For decades we have had sanctuary cities and certain states indicating that they don't get involved in immigration because that is a federal issue. Well the Feds are there now doing their job. These pritestors need to be told to go home and stop impeding law enforcement. Furthermore, showing up to a "protest" where you know law enforcement is on edge with a hun and then getting into an altercation is beyond stupid. Should it be a death sentence? No. But what a flipping idiot.
Immigration enforcement is happening. The illegal population is going back one way or another while this administration is in charge. Progressives are going to have to deal with that until the next election much like those of us who didn't like the wide open borders had to wait for the Biden administration to get dumped. That is how things work here. So no, ICE doesn't need to leave, they need to roll in the FBI (not military) and start doing the job that Tim and Jacob won't do.
From watching this full video, all I see is a guy filming with his phone in the street ...and then you have ICE agents massively escalate the situation by knocking the women to the ground and I guess pepper spraying them .. And then with a few seconds straight up execute this guy
The rush to defend the Feds killing people in the streets is very bizarre to me. Is it a smart thing to do to interject yourself into this mess?... Definitely not. But that should in no way let these trigger happy officers off the hook for some really horrible policing.
No where in my post did I defend how the situation was handled. I did provide context for how we are getting here. ICE shows up to do their job. The Governor and Mayor tell their residents to do what they can to make that legitimate law enforcement job as difficult as possible. Protestors get it in their minds that they are Captain America and are blocking streets (something those women were doing right before the pushing started), throwing stuff at officers, hitting officers with cars, doxxing officers, online threats to shoot officers, threats from the Governor to activate the National Guard to fight officers, and in that climate this dumb and brings a concealed carry weapon to a protest and then gets in a physical altercation with Federal Law enforcement. Now, did these officers react counter to their training? From the video, probably. However that doesn't absolve this idiot from all the decisions he made leading up to his getting shot nor does it absolve Democrats, Walz and Frey in particular, from pouring gas on a fire.
If Trump and someone like Ashli Babbitt get some of the blame for everything that lead up to her being shot, unarmed, then so does this guy and the politicians who egged him on. We have a right to see the immigration laws in this country enforced. The left shouldn't be allowed their heckler's veto on this. Do they deserve to be shot? No. What they deserve is to have either local law enforcement or another federal police force start arresting them for obstruction and making them burn time and money defending themselves in court. You are not allowed to interfere with federal law enforcement in the performance of their job. Being all up on them with your f---ing cell phone does eventually rise to that level.
Discipline the officers but I don't want a withdrawal from Minneapolis. I want the legal hammer dropped on these dipshits.
Recording people with a cell phone in a public place isn't against the law.
Protestors barricading city blocks, law enforcement has withdrawn.
Looks like another autonomous zone.
This can be easily remedied. All that has to be done is for ICE to stand down and withdraw.
No. No, no, no, no. ICE isn't having these issues anywhere else. Tim Walz and the Minneapolis Mayor and political entities are to blame for this. It sucks you have these people getting killed, but just like Ashli Babbitt, they are doing things in a tense situation that is being stirred up by politicians.
ICE has a legitimate job to do. For decades we have had sanctuary cities and certain states indicating that they don't get involved in immigration because that is a federal issue. Well the Feds are there now doing their job. These pritestors need to be told to go home and stop impeding law enforcement. Furthermore, showing up to a "protest" where you know law enforcement is on edge with a hun and then getting into an altercation is beyond stupid. Should it be a death sentence? No. But what a flipping idiot.
Immigration enforcement is happening. The illegal population is going back one way or another while this administration is in charge. Progressives are going to have to deal with that until the next election much like those of us who didn't like the wide open borders had to wait for the Biden administration to get dumped. That is how things work here. So no, ICE doesn't need to leave, they need to roll in the FBI (not military) and start doing the job that Tim and Jacob won't do.
From watching this full video, all I see is a guy filming with his phone in the street ...and then you have ICE agents massively escalate the situation by knocking the women to the ground and I guess pepper spraying them .. And then with a few seconds straight up execute this guy
The rush to defend the Feds killing people in the streets is very bizarre to me. Is it a smart thing to do to interject yourself into this mess?... Definitely not. But that should in no way let these trigger happy officers off the hook for some really horrible policing.
No where in my post did I defend how the situation was handled. I did provide context for how we are getting here. ICE shows up to do their job. The Governor and Mayor tell their residents to do what they can to make that legitimate law enforcement job as difficult as possible. Protestors get it in their minds that they are Captain America and are blocking streets (something those women were doing right before the pushing started), throwing stuff at officers, hitting officers with cars, doxxing officers, online threats to shoot officers, threats from the Governor to activate the National Guard to fight officers, and in that climate this dumb and brings a concealed carry weapon to a protest and then gets in a physical altercation with Federal Law enforcement. Now, did these officers react counter to their training? From the video, probably. However that doesn't absolve this idiot from all the decisions he made leading up to his getting shot nor does it absolve Democrats, Walz and Frey in particular, from pouring gas on a fire.
If Trump and someone like Ashli Babbitt get some of the blame for everything that lead up to her being shot, unarmed, then so does this guy and the politicians who egged him on. We have a right to see the immigration laws in this country enforced. The left shouldn't be allowed their heckler's veto on this. Do they deserve to be shot? No. What they deserve is to have either local law enforcement or another federal police force start arresting them for obstruction and making them burn time and money defending themselves in court. You are not allowed to interfere with federal law enforcement in the performance of their job. Being all up on them with your f---ing cell phone does eventually rise to that level.
Discipline the officers but I don't want a withdrawal from Minneapolis. I want the legal hammer dropped on these dipshits.
Recording people with a cell phone in a public place isn't against the law.
The context of how you are doing it can be because it does eventually rise to the point of obstructing. For instance, your bro gets picked up for public intox and you decide to stand in front of the police car that he has been placed into to "record" it. At a certain point, if you don't get out of the way, your right to record is superseded by their right to carry out their duties. If an officer tells you to back up, you are supposed to comply and failure to do so can lead to legal consequences for you.
In this instance it looks like the two women were the ones who had escalated things to the point where an officer pushed one to make her back up. The guy put hands on the officer and he is then in violation of the law. He should have been arrested, not shot, but he was in the wrong too.
Protestors barricading city blocks, law enforcement has withdrawn.
Looks like another autonomous zone.
This can be easily remedied. All that has to be done is for ICE to stand down and withdraw.
No. No, no, no, no. ICE isn't having these issues anywhere else. Tim Walz and the Minneapolis Mayor and political entities are to blame for this. It sucks you have these people getting killed, but just like Ashli Babbitt, they are doing things in a tense situation that is being stirred up by politicians.
ICE has a legitimate job to do. For decades we have had sanctuary cities and certain states indicating that they don't get involved in immigration because that is a federal issue. Well the Feds are there now doing their job. These pritestors need to be told to go home and stop impeding law enforcement. Furthermore, showing up to a "protest" where you know law enforcement is on edge with a hun and then getting into an altercation is beyond stupid. Should it be a death sentence? No. But what a flipping idiot.
Immigration enforcement is happening. The illegal population is going back one way or another while this administration is in charge. Progressives are going to have to deal with that until the next election much like those of us who didn't like the wide open borders had to wait for the Biden administration to get dumped. That is how things work here. So no, ICE doesn't need to leave, they need to roll in the FBI (not military) and start doing the job that Tim and Jacob won't do.
From watching this full video, all I see is a guy filming with his phone in the street ...and then you have ICE agents massively escalate the situation by knocking the women to the ground and I guess pepper spraying them .. And then with a few seconds straight up execute this guy
The rush to defend the Feds killing people in the streets is very bizarre to me. Is it a smart thing to do to interject yourself into this mess?... Definitely not. But that should in no way let these trigger happy officers off the hook for some really horrible policing.
No where in my post did I defend how the situation was handled. I did provide context for how we are getting here. ICE shows up to do their job. The Governor and Mayor tell their residents to do what they can to make that legitimate law enforcement job as difficult as possible. Protestors get it in their minds that they are Captain America and are blocking streets (something those women were doing right before the pushing started), throwing stuff at officers, hitting officers with cars, doxxing officers, online threats to shoot officers, threats from the Governor to activate the National Guard to fight officers, and in that climate this dumb and brings a concealed carry weapon to a protest and then gets in a physical altercation with Federal Law enforcement. Now, did these officers react counter to their training? From the video, probably. However that doesn't absolve this idiot from all the decisions he made leading up to his getting shot nor does it absolve Democrats, Walz and Frey in particular, from pouring gas on a fire.
If Trump and someone like Ashli Babbitt get some of the blame for everything that lead up to her being shot, unarmed, then so does this guy and the politicians who egged him on. We have a right to see the immigration laws in this country enforced. The left shouldn't be allowed their heckler's veto on this. Do they deserve to be shot? No. What they deserve is to have either local law enforcement or another federal police force start arresting them for obstruction and making them burn time and money defending themselves in court. You are not allowed to interfere with federal law enforcement in the performance of their job. Being all up on them with your f---ing cell phone does eventually rise to that level.
Discipline the officers but I don't want a withdrawal from Minneapolis. I want the legal hammer dropped on these dipshits.
Recording people with a cell phone in a public place isn't against the law.
The context of how you are doing it can be because it does eventually rise to the point of obstructing. For instance, your bro gets picked up for public intox and you decide to stand in front of the police car that he has been placed into to "record" it. At a certain point, if you don't get out of the way, your right to record is superseded by their right to carry out their duties. If an officer tells you to back up, you are supposed to comply and failure to do so can lead to legal consequences for you.
In this instance it looks like the two women were the ones who had escalated things to the point where an officer pushed one to make her back up. The guy put hands on the officer and he is then in violation of the law. He should have been arrested, not shot, but he was in the wrong too.
We have video of people simply recording ICE and then being told they are being put on a database as being a domestic terrorist. For recording.
Sure, the guy shouldn't have done what he did once the girls were maced. He did though, which it seems like at least 6 guys couldn't get this guy under control. That's a training issue.
People aren't protesting ICE because of the immigration (for the most part), they're protesting because they are being told what they are seeing with their eyes didn't actually happen. We were told this guy brandished a gun, when did that happen? We were told he's an assassin, when? Our VP said they have absolute immunity. Since when?
Stop lying to people and framing it like they can do no wrong.
We have video of people simply recording ICE and then being told they are being put on a database as being a domestic terrorist. For recording.
Sure, the guy shouldn't have done what he did once the girls were maced. He did though, which it seems like at least 6 guys couldn't get this guy under control. That's a training issue.
People aren't protesting ICE because of the immigration (for the most part), they're protesting because they are being told what they are seeing with their eyes didn't actually happen. We were told this guy brandished a gun, when did that happen? We were told he's an assassin, when? Our VP said they have absolute immunity. Since when?
Stop lying to people and framing it like they can do no wrong.
When will we see the 2nd Amendment Solution brought to bear against a tyrannical government? If things don't change soon, it's going to happen.
We have video of people simply recording ICE and then being told they are being put on a database as being a domestic terrorist. For recording.
Sure, the guy shouldn't have done what he did once the girls were maced. He did though, which it seems like at least 6 guys couldn't get this guy under control. That's a training issue.
People aren't protesting ICE because of the immigration (for the most part), they're protesting because they are being told what they are seeing with their eyes didn't actually happen. We were told this guy brandished a gun, when did that happen? We were told he's an assassin, when? Our VP said they have absolute immunity. Since when?
Stop lying to people and framing it like they can do no wrong.
When will we see the 2nd Amendment Solution brought to bear against a tyrannical government? If things don't change soon, it's going to happen.
Lol. It ain’t gonna be the left coming out on top in that one…
Protestors barricading city blocks, law enforcement has withdrawn.
Looks like another autonomous zone.
This can be easily remedied. All that has to be done is for ICE to stand down and withdraw.
No. No, no, no, no. ICE isn't having these issues anywhere else. Tim Walz and the Minneapolis Mayor and political entities are to blame for this. It sucks you have these people getting killed, but just like Ashli Babbitt, they are doing things in a tense situation that is being stirred up by politicians.
ICE has a legitimate job to do. For decades we have had sanctuary cities and certain states indicating that they don't get involved in immigration because that is a federal issue. Well the Feds are there now doing their job. These pritestors need to be told to go home and stop impeding law enforcement. Furthermore, showing up to a "protest" where you know law enforcement is on edge with a hun and then getting into an altercation is beyond stupid. Should it be a death sentence? No. But what a flipping idiot.
Immigration enforcement is happening. The illegal population is going back one way or another while this administration is in charge. Progressives are going to have to deal with that until the next election much like those of us who didn't like the wide open borders had to wait for the Biden administration to get dumped. That is how things work here. So no, ICE doesn't need to leave, they need to roll in the FBI (not military) and start doing the job that Tim and Jacob won't do.
From watching this full video, all I see is a guy filming with his phone in the street ...and then you have ICE agents massively escalate the situation by knocking the women to the ground and I guess pepper spraying them .. And then with a few seconds straight up execute this guy
The rush to defend the Feds killing people in the streets is very bizarre to me. Is it a smart thing to do to interject yourself into this mess?... Definitely not. But that should in no way let these trigger happy officers off the hook for some really horrible policing.
No where in my post did I defend how the situation was handled. I did provide context for how we are getting here. ICE shows up to do their job. The Governor and Mayor tell their residents to do what they can to make that legitimate law enforcement job as difficult as possible. Protestors get it in their minds that they are Captain America and are blocking streets (something those women were doing right before the pushing started), throwing stuff at officers, hitting officers with cars, doxxing officers, online threats to shoot officers, threats from the Governor to activate the National Guard to fight officers, and in that climate this dumb and brings a concealed carry weapon to a protest and then gets in a physical altercation with Federal Law enforcement. Now, did these officers react counter to their training? From the video, probably. However that doesn't absolve this idiot from all the decisions he made leading up to his getting shot nor does it absolve Democrats, Walz and Frey in particular, from pouring gas on a fire.
If Trump and someone like Ashli Babbitt get some of the blame for everything that lead up to her being shot, unarmed, then so does this guy and the politicians who egged him on. We have a right to see the immigration laws in this country enforced. The left shouldn't be allowed their heckler's veto on this. Do they deserve to be shot? No. What they deserve is to have either local law enforcement or another federal police force start arresting them for obstruction and making them burn time and money defending themselves in court. You are not allowed to interfere with federal law enforcement in the performance of their job. Being all up on them with your f---ing cell phone does eventually rise to that level.
Discipline the officers but I don't want a withdrawal from Minneapolis. I want the legal hammer dropped on these dipshits.
Recording people with a cell phone in a public place isn't against the law.
The context of how you are doing it can be because it does eventually rise to the point of obstructing. For instance, your bro gets picked up for public intox and you decide to stand in front of the police car that he has been placed into to "record" it. At a certain point, if you don't get out of the way, your right to record is superseded by their right to carry out their duties. If an officer tells you to back up, you are supposed to comply and failure to do so can lead to legal consequences for you.
In this instance it looks like the two women were the ones who had escalated things to the point where an officer pushed one to make her back up. The guy put hands on the officer and he is then in violation of the law. He should have been arrested, not shot, but he was in the wrong too.
We have video of people simply recording ICE and then being told they are being put on a database as being a domestic terrorist. For recording.
Sure, the guy shouldn't have done what he did once the girls were maced. He did though, which it seems like at least 6 guys couldn't get this guy under control. That's a training issue.
People aren't protesting ICE because of the immigration (for the most part), they're protesting because they are being told what they are seeing with their eyes didn't actually happen. We were told this guy brandished a gun, when did that happen? We were told he's an assassin, when? Our VP said they have absolute immunity. Since when?
Stop lying to people and framing it like they can do no wrong.
See this is where we have the disagreement. The women were told to back off, they didn't. It escalated. Then the guy who shows up to record with a concealed gun gets in a fight with officers. Then he resists six guys arrwsting him in the city that rioted over a druggie overdosing in the street and how he was restrained. I am sorry the guy got killed. However, there are many of us that are sick and f*cking tired of the left doing this "protest" bullsh*t when it comes to enforcing the laws we want enforced. People voted to close the border and deport. Democrats have had decades to fix the system and they won't do it because their defacto open borders policy is wildly unpopular. They just don't enforce anything because of situations like this. People get a sad face that Hector the lawn guy is getting the boot and they can convince useful idiots like the guy who got shot to go and cause disturbances and get themselves hurt or killed and the "we just want things nice" people will start complaining.
No. A thousand times no. Minnesota isn't even in the top 15 to 20 of deportations. It is a problem because of Tim Walz, Jacob Frey, and their useful idiots who keep obstructing justice. None of this happens if these "recording" idiots get the f*ck out of the way and let people do their job. They need to stop with the tear gas and the pushing and start hand cuffing and throwing in jail. Give them a record and legal fees to burn through. Punish them with the system.
We have video of people simply recording ICE and then being told they are being put on a database as being a domestic terrorist. For recording.
Sure, the guy shouldn't have done what he did once the girls were maced. He did though, which it seems like at least 6 guys couldn't get this guy under control. That's a training issue.
People aren't protesting ICE because of the immigration (for the most part), they're protesting because they are being told what they are seeing with their eyes didn't actually happen. We were told this guy brandished a gun, when did that happen? We were told he's an assassin, when? Our VP said they have absolute immunity. Since when?
Stop lying to people and framing it like they can do no wrong.
When will we see the 2nd Amendment Solution brought to bear against a tyrannical government? If things don't change soon, it's going to happen.
This isn't tyranny but I guess have at it. Would be a pretty stupid thing to do. Also find that interesting given your J6 stand.
@scam-likely Scam likely. The fraud himself. Go troll somewhere else dipshit. You know you lack the chops to debate on here. Who are you? Another Hickory handle? Moron. Grow some balls. Don’t be a troll. Triggered little baby.
Not that Scam needs the assist but Go troll someplace else? You're the biggest troll here. 700+ post and only like 2 on any of the sports boards. You didn't even post on football board after the natty. IU FOOTBALL WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP and you didn't even give a "hell yeah" over there. You calling others a troll is the most troll thing a troll could do.
Then the guy who shows up to record with a concealed gun gets in a fight with officers. Then he resists six guys arrwsting him
We really are watching different videos. It seems he was worried about the safety of the woman and stood between the officer and the woman. Maybe not smart, but if you were worried about someone's safety, what would you do? Seriously, if you were there and were concerned they were physically abusing the woman the solution is to stand and watch?
At one point, his hands are up. That isn't fighting them. Pic, top left in pics below
https://share.google/S2Ja1mEa2TgiM1hjo
Do we have pictures of him throwing punches?
Wouldn't it be easy to say, "hands behind your back and turn around."
Throwing him down, macing him, hitting him, seems overkill from that stance he is in. It seems like a bunch of cops mad with power out to teach him a lesson
We stopped letting cops do that a long time ago.
Look at that pic. He has one hand above his head, the other about chest high as if still recording. In no way does that guy look like a threat, and in no way is there indication he is fighting back
@scam-likely Scam likely. The fraud himself. Go troll somewhere else dipshit. You know you lack the chops to debate on here. Who are you? Another Hickory handle? Moron. Grow some balls. Don’t be a troll. Triggered little baby.
You must actually be a Carmel housewife. McM666 wasn't nearly this dense.