I remember this poster named Jet who was very concerned about voter fraud, and when it was pointed out to him, many times, that the problem was miniscule, and mostly by Republicans, he would respond that even one fradulent vote was a problem, and how could we rest until it was all stamped out.https://www.mcknights.com/news/skylines-schwartz-ordered-to-state-prison-despite-federal-pardon/
Where's the outrage, or are people okay with since he's American, it's not as big a deal?
This dude, much like many others, was pardoned for his federal crimes. Seems like Trump doesn't mind fraud after all....
Do you think we should bring in more Somalians? Do you think the % of American citizens committing fraud on taxpayers is anywhere near that of the Somalians?
Who cares what Trump doesn’t mind, why is that relevant to what’s happening with the fraud in Minnesota? Should we not pursue them because Trump? Are you so ate up with Trump that you’re ok with being ripped off?
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You didn't watch the video fox put out.
You trying to equate bringing in more Somali people to me thinking fraud is okay is so off base. I'm not okay with any fraud, no matter if they're Somali or any other nationality. Can you say that, because I remember you posting that Americans doing it aren't as big of a deal, so you can skip me the outrage you're showing.
Fraud is fraud, no matter who is doing it. Everyone should be held accountable, yet we have what seems like both parties playing politics with it.]
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Phillip Esformes peddled fentanyl. A weapon of mass destruction, according to the president. Purposely got people hooked. He is as bad as you can get. Yet President Trump pardoned him because they are friends.Why does MAGA tolerate this??
List of those convicted of FRAUD AND THEN PARDONED BY TRUMP. WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE?:
- Philip Esformes perpetrated a MASSIVE $1.3 BILLION Medicare fraud, even deliberately getting his patients addicted to fentanyl and oxycontin in order to keep them buying pills. Trump pardoned him.
- David Gentile perpetrated a $1.6 billion fraud on his investors and was sentenced to 7 years in prison. Trump pardoned him.
- Devon Archer committed securities fraud and was ordered to repay $43.3 million. Trump pardoned him.
- Trevor Milton committed securities fraud & wire fraud and was ordered to repay $680 million. Trump pardoned him.
- Jason Galanis committed securities fraud and was ordered to repay $84.8 million. Trump commuted his sentence.
- Paul Walczak committed tax fraud and payroll tax evasion and was ordered to repay $4 million. Trump pardoned him.
Todd & Julie Chrisley committed bank fraud and wire fraud and were ordered to repay $22 million. Trump pardoned them.-Republican Rep. Michael Grimm of New York was sentenced to prison for tax fraud. Trump pardoned him.
There are more examples. I think most are on the same page about fraud. Especially when it comes to services for children. HOWEVER, Is this thread really about cracking down on fraud or only cracking down on certain people?
Much less outrage for Americans committing crime against other Americans vs non-citizens or immigrants who are stealing from taxpayers. One is a criminal that belongs in jail, the other shouldn’t be here to begin with. I don’t know why Trump pardoned them or how much time they served, or if they payed their fines & it might well be bs, but that has nothing to do with the negative impacts of Democrat immigration policy. You consider them the same, fine, but I don’t. They are here to steal from us & fund terrorism.
The majority of Americans advocate to lock up all fraudsters, including the Somalis in Minnesota that committed fraud. AND including good ol white American fraudsters.
Unfortunately their is a group on the left who is so insanely "tolerant" that they sell out what makes this country great. Also UNFORTUNATELY, their is a group on the right that is so insanely ignorant that they think only brown people and liberals commit crimes.
Total nonsense.@spartans9312 Have they replaced their men with women like Walz in leadership positions. Saw a video with him ranting about white men. It’s unfathomable to me that people would look at it and say yes give me Walz. People need to wake up
The problem is, no matter how bad the fraud gets, not matter how much is proven, no matter how much damage illegal immigration does, Democrat politicians know they can act with impunity because they have effectively demonized the Republican Party through Trump & they have imported enough votes with immigration. There are too many with TDS like Aloha that would rather vote to destroy Western civilization than vote Republican. They’ll claim it’s MAGA, but any attempt to get them to distinguish between the two will boil down to personality traits, not policy. They are willing to sell out our country because they don’t like someone. Think about that…
@mrhighlife One side lets in people who don't benefit our country. That's the germane part you continue to miss.
Why do you think so many Democrats can’t see this truth?
TDS is a real diagnosable condition that affects the mind.
@co-hoosier Tim Walz is disgusting. On so many different levels. His white supremacy effeminate self-loathing to his horrific policies and governance embodies the male Democrat today. It's so sad. I think of the men in my own family. Lifelong Democrats who now cannot stand the party. Joe Biden is largely responsible imho.
Now, back to Somalia and immigration. The fraud speaks for itself. The why explains some of it but it is also important in framing what our immigratoin should look like going forward. Most of these Somalis are entering their fourth decade of being in the U.S. Nearly every Somali household with kids, 89 percent of them, receives some form of welfare. That's a shocking statistic. Ignoring that we are bringing in people who perpetuated one of the largest frauds on the American Taxpayer, we are bringing in people we will have to support from cradle to grave. And Walz and the idiot mayor guy have the temerity to boast these people as a real asset to the U.S. Mogadishu is a disaster. People walking the beach carrying AK47s. Ruin everywhere. Scams. Piracy. You have to feel for the innocent but at some point we have to have policies that put America first. It is just common sense. Trump is right in his opinion of Somalis, unfortunately. You would hope they can assimilate and thrive and contribute. But they are like bringing in cave people. They don't have the foundation. What are Democrats today doing? What are they thinking....
I've voted straight ticket Republican except for President the last three elections. I held my nose and voted for several MAGA candidates (or candidates pretending to be MAGA). Yes, Republicans are for controlling immigration. I'm for zero illegal immigration and controlled and reasonable legal immigration. It's one of the many reasons I'm a Republican.
This next election, I will not vote for a MAGA at any level.
Rule number 1 - if the Republican candidate says the 2020 election was stolen, he/she's either too stupid to vote for, or is dishonestly playing to the MAGA stupid. Either way he's MAGA and won't get my vote.
Others - If he places personal loyalty to Trump above the rule of law, traditional checks and balances, and respect for democratic institutions, he's MAGA and won't get my vote. If he defends obvious lies of the President and repeats them, he's MAGA and won't get my vote. If he's extremely dishonest, uncivil, and can't defend his positions honestly, he's MAGA and won't get my vote. If he's an isolationist to the point of harming our national security, he's MAGA and won't get my vote. If he treats our NATO allies like adversaries and our adversaries like Russia and China like our allies, he's MAGA. Republicans are socially conservative, but if the candidate focuses on culture wars above all else and it's perpetually over the top stupid about it, he's probably MAGA.
Of course, none of this means I'll vote for a Democrat because I'm not a Democrat, I'm a traditional Republican, who opposes most Democratic policies. I may just not vote for either candidate in a particular race as I did with Trump in 2020 (left President blank) or write in a candidate like I did for Trump in 2024. I voted Johnson in 2016.
Just before the 2024 election over half of Republicans identified as MAGA - people like to identify with the perceived winner. Now it's about 50 percent and the trendline is down. MAGAs hate Republicans who aren't MAGA possibly most of all, but try winning elections without traditional Republicans. Most of the rest of the country despise him, but who can blame them? The President treats everyone that isn't obviously loyal to him as enemies. He's turned on dozens of prominent Republicans simply because they aren't Trump loyalists for the most part. He explicitly calls Democrats enemies and evil. A normal Republican would consider Democrats as fellow Americans with misguided policies rather than enemies. It's on Trump that he's so massively unliked. And he's getting less popular with nearly every poll:
President Trump Job Approval | RealClearPolling
He'll soon be an anchor on just about every Republican in the midterms - MAGA or not.
Let the MAGA meltdown begin - it's what you do. You're so sensitive and insecure.
No doubt that's the case with Trump Devotion Syndrome because many completely ignore personal long-held principles, and cultural norms to defend the indefensible when it to demonstrate their loyalty to him. It'll be studied for decades.Why do you think so many Democrats can’t see this truth?
TDS is a real diagnosable condition that affects the mind.
They're all in on it. The 65 IQers didn't invent this fraud scheme by themselves.
https://twitter.com/i/status/2006383976861118535
Why do you think so many Democrats can’t see this truth?
TDS is a real diagnosable condition that affects the mind.
Exactly. Trumpers should really get their TDS looked at given it has completely brainwashed them and prevented them from being able to think for themselves. I'm shocked Trumpers can even wipe their own butt without instructions from Trump.
@aloha-hoosier You get this wrong every time. It's because emotions guide your everything. It's very easy to dismiss Trump for the insufferable, narcissistic jerk that he is and simply focus on policies. What policies benefit the country. The radical left or Maga. That analysis is very simple to do. And your above rant dismisses the same vitriol that comes from the left with regards to Hitler, and Nazis, and on and on.
@mrhighlife One side lets in people who don't benefit our country. That's the germane part you continue to miss.
Who are you accusing of letting the MAGA idiots into the country?
Immigrants benefit this country far more than the brain dead, red hat wearing rednecks do.
If given the choice, I would kick out MAGA followers and give citizenship to illegal immigrants. Added bonus is crime and gun violence would drop considerably
@aloha-hoosier You get this wrong every time. It's because emotions guide your everything. It's very easy to dismiss Trump for the insufferable, narcissistic jerk that he is and simply focus on policies. What policies benefit the country. The radical left or Maga. That analysis is very simple to do. And your above rant dismisses the same vitriol that comes from the left with regards to Hitler, and Nazis, and on and on.
It's easy to dismiss his lack of morals when you have none 😉
Some people obviously don't have any guiding principles.@aloha-hoosier You get this wrong every time. It's because emotions guide your everything. It's very easy to dismiss Trump for the insufferable, narcissistic jerk that he is and simply focus on policies. What policies benefit the country. The radical left or Maga. That analysis is very simple to do. And your above rant dismisses the same vitriol that comes from the left with regards to Hitler, and Nazis, and on and on.
you have zero idea of who will benefit this country. Neither do I. You are the same type of person who said the same thing about Irish, Italian, Polish, Jewish and Asian immigrants a hundred years ago.@mrhighlife One side lets in people who don't benefit our country. That's the germane part you continue to miss.