A doubling means going down? Good to know!
Data compiled in a report from U. Nebraska:
Data from the national weather service on tornadoes in Kansas since 1950
Data for Illinois, from the National Climatic Data Center. Clear upward trend (though 1974 was a doozy!)
Yeah, they just fell off a cliff!
I should probably review your "outlier data" but I have work to do...
There is no way you can be a PhD. Indiana should revoke your degree if you even attended.
I posted NOAA data showing NATIONAL flat tornado volume and less frequent EF3s+ and you come back with some garbage, non-linked graphs? Why did you not use the most recent data on Kansas? Why do you think the only loser non-AAU school in the Big Ten is more qualified than the NOAA in reporting on tornado data?
Here is the National Weather Service, which directly proves my point:
https://www.weather.gov/ict/KSTornadoClimo?utm_source=chatgpt.com
Showing that there are shifts in tornado activity does nothing to dispute the fact that tornadic activity is flat and severity is lower nationwide. You also aren't even acknowledging the biggest caveat the NOAA and National Weather Service are disclaiming:
""With increased National Doppler radar coverage, increasing population, and greater attention to tornado reporting, there has been an increase in the number of tornado reports over the past several decades. This can create a misleading appearance of an increasing trend in tornado frequency."
If you wanted to understand the impact, perhaps you should ask our national source itself:
Does climate change cause tornadoes? No. Thunderstorms do. The harder question may be, "How will climate change influence tornado occurrence?" The best answer is: We don't know. According to the U.S. Global Change Research Program's Third National Climate Assessment, "For other types of extreme weather events important to the United States, such as tornadoes and severe thunderstorms, more research is needed to understand how climate change will affect them. These events occur over much smaller scales, which makes observations and modeling more challenging. Projecting the future influence of climate change on these events can also be complicated by the fact that some of the risk factors for these events may increase with climate change, while others may decrease." This is because tornadoes are short-fused weather, on the time scale of seconds and minutes, and a space scale of fractions of a mile across. In contrast, climate trends take many years, decades, or millennia, spanning vast areas of the globe. The numerous unknowns dwell in the vast gap between those time and space scales. Climate models cannot resolve tornadoes or individual thunderstorms. They can indicate broad-scale shifts in three of the four favorable ingredients for severe thunderstorms (moisture, instability and wind shear), but as any severe weather forecaster can attest, having some favorable factors in place doesn't guarantee tornadoes. Our physical understanding indicates mixed signals--some ingredients may increase (instability), while others may decrease (shear), in a warmer world. The other key ingredient (storm-scale lift), and to varying extents moisture, instability and shear, depend mostly on day-to-day patterns, and often, even minute-to-minute local weather. Finally, tornado recordkeeping itself also has been prone to many errors and uncertainties, doesn't exist for most of the world, and even in the U. S., only covers several decades in detailed form.
And before you go on a stupid tirade about Trump influencing this explanation, this was written under the Biden Administration.
NOBODY gets it wrong more than Shooter!!!!
Do you guys even read the stuff you post? This entire fight is a waste of time. NOAA explains it quite simply: tornado reports are increasing noticeably, but narrowing it down to only EF-1+ tornadoes shows a mostly flat trend. Likely because improved radar and increased population have made EF-0 reports far more common (most of these tornadoes probably went unreported in the past).
LOL, jdb, did you ever step back and notice that you deny the very existence of climate change and yet you cling to statements from weather professionals treating climate change as established fact, with only the magnitude of its impact being (for now) uncertain?
"Projecting the future influence of climate change on these events can also be complicated by the fact that some of the risk factors for these events may increase with climate change, while others may decrease."
Climate change affects weather patterns. Indeed, as weather patterns change, some places will get it worse with respect to a certain weather event but some others will not and may see the reverse. As an example, Weather experts suggest that the phenomenon of El Niño helps to lower the number of Atlantic Hurricanes to stick together due to higher wind shear (yeah!) but El Niño makes it a hotter summer in many areas, especially up north (boo!). While research indicates that El Niño events are not necessarily occurring more often, when they happen they are definitely lingering longer and are stronger, on average. Consecutive, multi-year El Niño patterns have become significantly more common, with increasingly severe and prolonged global impacts.
Arguing with flat Earthers is exhausting!
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
Buckle up boys
LOL, jdb, did you ever step back and notice that you deny the very existence of climate change and yet you cling to statements from weather professionals treating climate change as established fact, with only the magnitude of its impact being (for now) uncertain?
"Projecting the future influence of climate change on these events can also be complicated by the fact that some of the risk factors for these events may increase with climate change, while others may decrease."
Climate change affects weather patterns. Indeed, as weather patterns change, some places will get it worse with respect to a certain weather event but some others will not and may see the reverse. As an example, Weather experts suggest that the phenomenon of El Niño helps to lower the number of Atlantic Hurricanes to stick together due to higher wind shear (yeah!) but El Niño makes it a hotter summer in many areas, especially up north (boo!). While research indicates that El Niño events are not necessarily occurring more often, when they happen they are definitely lingering longer and are stronger, on average. Consecutive, multi-year El Niño patterns have become significantly more common, with increasingly severe and prolonged global impacts.
Arguing with flat Earthers is exhausting!
Link proof to my climate change denial.
Buckle up boys
It was a crazy tornado outbreak in southern Illinois and southern Indiana….the one that hit Evansville and Newburgh you could see coming and it took the NWS 20 minutes or so to put a warning on the storm.
Could we put a lid on this if Mark just rakes the forest? @unclemark
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
Could we put a lid on this if Mark just rakes the forest? @unclemark
That's what keeps them from burning, dumbass.
No one gets it wrong more than Shooter.
It's equally unconnected to both...
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
Lol
https://twitter.com/fueraSocialisme/status/2071695397823594671
A true believer and a hypocrite for sure…just like our resident scientist
Surprisingly, he ran away from the discussion.LOL, jdb, did you ever step back and notice that you deny the very existence of climate change and yet you cling to statements from weather professionals treating climate change as established fact, with only the magnitude of its impact being (for now) uncertain?
"Projecting the future influence of climate change on these events can also be complicated by the fact that some of the risk factors for these events may increase with climate change, while others may decrease."
Climate change affects weather patterns. Indeed, as weather patterns change, some places will get it worse with respect to a certain weather event but some others will not and may see the reverse. As an example, Weather experts suggest that the phenomenon of El Niño helps to lower the number of Atlantic Hurricanes to stick together due to higher wind shear (yeah!) but El Niño makes it a hotter summer in many areas, especially up north (boo!). While research indicates that El Niño events are not necessarily occurring more often, when they happen they are definitely lingering longer and are stronger, on average. Consecutive, multi-year El Niño patterns have become significantly more common, with increasingly severe and prolonged global impacts.
Arguing with flat Earthers is exhausting!
Link proof to my climate change denial.
Lol
https://twitter.com/fueraSocialisme/status/2071695397823594671
The thing is, China is way ahead of us in green energy. 63% of new cars sold in China this year are electric. Anyone want to guess why Hormuz shutting down didn't have China on its knees?
China has twice as much wind and solar under construction than the rest of the world combined.
We are not even trying to compete. Trump paid companies that had green contracts to stop building them. How smart is it to pay someone not to do what you had already paid them to do?
In reaching the MOU, Trump admitted he didn't want to be Hoover. We came to our knees over Hormuz before China.
Lol
https://twitter.com/fueraSocialisme/status/2071695397823594671
A true believer and a hypocrite for sure…just like our resident scientist
