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UncleMark
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Again, I'm not sure why this matters for this thread. What is the point, other than to try to get people to feel less sympathy for the victims who happened to be Muslim? Can you honestly tell me there is any other reason for this than that?

They had it coming. Duh.

That seems to be the message.  I don't know why anyone would amplify it. 

No question that's the message. I would expect no less from JDB.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/19/2026 9:27 am
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https://twitter.com/ginamilan_/status/2056480712212263285

I don't think that's true. The mosque they were tied to in San Diego was the one al-Awlaki preached at, which was way on the other side of town. I'm not even sure why this is supposed to be relevant. A couple of teenagers wanted to get revenge for 9/11? That sounds ridiculous on its face. I feel like this is just a bullshit X post that was launched for the sole purpose of reminding the Online Faithful that the Muslims are the real enemy.

Per Grok:

Yes, the post is correct.

The shooting at the Islamic Center of San Diego (the city's largest mosque, located in the Clairemont neighborhood) did happen today, May 18, 2026. Two teenage suspects opened fire outside the center around 11:43 a.m. PDT, killing three adult men (including a security guard who heroically stopped them from entering the attached school with children inside). The suspects, found dead nearby from apparent self-inflicted gunshot wounds, are under investigation as a possible hate crime.

The historical connection to 9/11 is also accurate and well-documented:

  • Nawaf al-Hazmi and Khalid al-Mihdhar were two of the five al-Qaeda hijackers on American Airlines Flight 77, which they crashed into the Pentagon on September 11, 2001 (killing all 64 people on board and 125 inside the building).
  • In early 2000, after arriving in the U.S., they lived in San Diego (initially at the Parkwood Apartments in Clairemont Mesa, just blocks from the mosque). They prayed regularly at the Islamic Center of San Diego, played on its soccer team, and spent significant time there.
  • Associates connected to the mosque (including an administrator) provided them practical help: finding an apartment, obtaining Social Security numbers and driver’s licenses, buying a car, and even facilitating a $5,000 money transfer tied to one of the hijackers via the administrator’s bank account.

This is corroborated by the 9/11 Commission materials, FBI investigations, court documents, and contemporary reporting (e.g., KPBS, San Diego Union-Tribune, and the Investigative Project on Terrorism). The image attached to the post is a KPBS screenshot showing the hijackers’ photos alongside a quote highlighting exactly these ties.

The post is simply pointing out a factual historical link between today’s location and the 9/11 hijackers — nothing in the text is inaccurate or exaggerated.

 

Yeah, there's a lot of conflicting information out there. I think the accurate version is probably that Grok/NYP are conflating two different mosques.

https://www.npr.org/2011/09/11/140370379/san-diego-muslims-open-doors-amid-scrutiny

Again, I'm not sure why this matters for this thread. What is the point, other than to try to get people to feel less sympathy for the victims who happened to be Muslim? Can you honestly tell me there is any other reason for this than that?

 

Because it implicates the Center as an extremist source and points towards reasoning why that specific place was targeted vs. the thousands of mosques that have popped up in recent decades. Were its leaders publicly calling for jihad and uprising post October 7th?

The NPR piece is a pathetic use of taxpayer funds. It dismisses the legitimate ties to the Center in question, where known terrorists in the deadliest attack on American soil visited regularly and interacted with.

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 11:37 am
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Because it implicates the Center as an extremist source and points towards reasoning why that specific place was targeted vs. the thousands of mosques that have popped up in recent decades. Were its leaders publicly calling for jihad and uprising post October 7th?

Except it doesn't. Per Gemini: They attended the ICSD only for convenience because they lived near it. They sought out the Rabat mosque for ideological reasons. The 9/11 commission specifically cleared the ICSD of extremist ties.

Your justification for bringing it up proves Mark right. Your intent is simply to show that the victims deserved what they got.

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 12:34 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @jdb

Because it implicates the Center as an extremist source and points towards reasoning why that specific place was targeted vs. the thousands of mosques that have popped up in recent decades. Were its leaders publicly calling for jihad and uprising post October 7th?

Except it doesn't. Per Gemini: They attended the ICSD only for convenience because they lived near it. They sought out the Rabat mosque for ideological reasons. The 9/11 commission specifically cleared the ICSD of extremist ties.

Your justification for bringing it up proves Mark right. Your intent is simply to show that the victims deserved what they got.

 

Showing something that possibly contributes to the shooter's motive equates to the victims deserving it?

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 1:01 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @jdb

Because it implicates the Center as an extremist source and points towards reasoning why that specific place was targeted vs. the thousands of mosques that have popped up in recent decades. Were its leaders publicly calling for jihad and uprising post October 7th?

Except it doesn't. Per Gemini: They attended the ICSD only for convenience because they lived near it. They sought out the Rabat mosque for ideological reasons. The 9/11 commission specifically cleared the ICSD of extremist ties.

Your justification for bringing it up proves Mark right. Your intent is simply to show that the victims deserved what they got.

 

Like Charlie Kirk, Brian Johnson, & on & on.  This is the lens that these events are seen through.  Considering true believers of Islam want to see us all converted, subjugated, or killed, they’ll receive less sympathy than other victims of violence…

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 1:30 pm
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Posted by: @goat

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Because it implicates the Center as an extremist source and points towards reasoning why that specific place was targeted vs. the thousands of mosques that have popped up in recent decades. Were its leaders publicly calling for jihad and uprising post October 7th?

Except it doesn't. Per Gemini: They attended the ICSD only for convenience because they lived near it. They sought out the Rabat mosque for ideological reasons. The 9/11 commission specifically cleared the ICSD of extremist ties.

Your justification for bringing it up proves Mark right. Your intent is simply to show that the victims deserved what they got.

Perhaps you should double-check your AI chatbot:

From Claude:

The Gemini summary is a mix of partially accurate and misleading claims. Here's a breakdown:

"They attended the ICSD only for convenience because they lived near it." This is an oversimplification. They did attend the ICSD and live nearby, but convenience wasn't the only factor. Mosque members at the ICSD helped the two men find an apartment, obtain Social Security numbers and driver's licenses, buy a car, and receive funds through an administrator's bank account. That's a meaningful level of integration, not just dropping in because it was close. investigativeproject

"They sought out the Rabat mosque for ideological reasons." This part is largely accurate. The 9/11 Commission concluded that "soon after arriving in California, Hazmi and Mihdhar sought out and found a group of young and ideologically like-minded Muslims with roots in Yemen and Saudi Arabia, individuals mainly associated with Mohdar Abdullah and the Rabat mosque." The key figure there was Anwar al-Awlaki, who was an imam at the Rabat mosque in 2000 and is considered an important contact for the two hijackers. ABC NewsThe Investigative Project on Terrorism

"The 9/11 Commission specifically cleared the ICSD of extremist ties." This is an overstatement. The 9/11 Commission never concluded the mosque itself was complicit in the attacks — but that's different from "specifically clearing it of extremist ties." The Commission described assistance coming from individuals within the mosque community, and notably, Anwar al-Awlaki — later an al-Qaeda propagandist — preached at a local San Diego mosque during this period (the Rabat mosque, per the record above). The FBI later believed the ICSD's role may have been more significant than the Commission found. Washington ExaminerNPR

Bottom line: Gemini's framing nudges the ICSD's role toward "purely incidental" in a way the full record doesn't support, and the claim that the Commission "specifically cleared" the ICSD is stronger than what the Commission actually said.

But, you're right. I'm obviously supportive of what happened, particularly given the SS label on the gas can and the trans-looking wrestler.

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 2:09 pm
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This is the most confusing story of the year tbh.

A couple of "white nihlists", one of whom looks like a lesbian and the other who is Hispanic, write a manifesto blaming the Jews for everything. Yet, they shoot up an Islamic center, with an SS gas can and crazy shit written on the gun. One of the guys they kill is an Islamic supporter of Hitler and Jewish extermination.

https://twitter.com/PVelleAntiJihad/status/2056839260653682731

https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056883870424056104

They hated trans and gays, but were incels (let's be honest, those are gay)
https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056888671840977110
https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056885537064231108

didn't hate Muslims, but hated black people (yet killed Muslims)
https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056886411106922711

They called for the left to kill Trump and Vance
https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056892379182006738
https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056890606442676242

They were quasi-leftists, depending on the definition who claimed to be Christian
https://twitter.com/amyforsandiego/status/2056895872919917045


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Posted : 05/19/2026 10:12 pm
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Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @goat

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Because it implicates the Center as an extremist source and points towards reasoning why that specific place was targeted vs. the thousands of mosques that have popped up in recent decades. Were its leaders publicly calling for jihad and uprising post October 7th?

Except it doesn't. Per Gemini: They attended the ICSD only for convenience because they lived near it. They sought out the Rabat mosque for ideological reasons. The 9/11 commission specifically cleared the ICSD of extremist ties.

Your justification for bringing it up proves Mark right. Your intent is simply to show that the victims deserved what they got.

 

Showing something that possibly contributes to the shooter's motive equates to the victims deserving it?

 

Sums it up better than I could

https://twitter.com/Lifeabundantly5/status/2056852894318772345

 


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Posted : 05/19/2026 10:37 pm
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https://twitter.com/i/status/2056845733010047352

https://twitter.com/i/status/2056821660158759123

I bet against the accuracy of all your Twitter Twits. It’s easy money.

 


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