https://twitter.com/tiber_3/status/2082500561199346170?s=46
I'm against open borders. Prefer controlled, strategic immigration but your first tweet is misleading.
From the same Pew research: 72% of 3rd gen or higher US born Hispanics consider themselves "typical Americans" as opposed to "very different from typical Americans" -- Pew wasn't questioning allegiance in the part you retweeted.
Horse's mouth:
The tweet isn't misleading and your counter example is weak. Asking someone if they consider themselves a Mexican, American, or Hispanic is a much more objective question then do you consider yourself a "typical American".
Putting that side the takeaway is it takes several generations for foreigners to consider themselves Americans. Most likely at least 4, which isn't surprising.
Lol. Trying to use this poll to make a point about allegiance or assimilation is actually the weak sauce. Plenty of reasons to support sensible immigration policy without this lazy narrative.
My bad. Them saying they identify as something besides American first isn't good data on assimilation 😉
I support sensible immigration policy, as well. Like an immigration moratorium and deportations. Similar to what they did in the 1920s when their immigration policy also started turning into an invasion. Hopefully, we're as smart as they were.
How do you define an "invasion" as a form of immigration? How is it different from normal non-invasion immigration? What do the 1920's and today have in common?
How do you define an "invasion" as a form of immigration? How is it different from normal non-invasion immigration? What do the 1920's and today have in common?
The rate and amount of immigrants in the country. As for what we have in common it seems around 15% is when people start to get real pissed off.
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https://twitter.com/tiber_3/status/2082500561199346170?s=46
I'm against open borders. Prefer controlled, strategic immigration but your first tweet is misleading.
From the same Pew research: 72% of 3rd gen or higher US born Hispanics consider themselves "typical Americans" as opposed to "very different from typical Americans" -- Pew wasn't questioning allegiance in the part you retweeted.
Horse's mouth:
The tweet isn't misleading and your counter example is weak. Asking someone if they consider themselves a Mexican, American, or Hispanic is a much more objective question then do you consider yourself a "typical American".
Putting that side the takeaway is it takes several generations for foreigners to consider themselves Americans. Most likely at least 4, which isn't surprising.
Lol. Trying to use this poll to make a point about allegiance or assimilation is actually the weak sauce. Plenty of reasons to support sensible immigration policy without this lazy narrative.
My bad. Them saying they identify as something besides American first isn't good data on assimilation 😉
I support sensible immigration policy, as well. Like an immigration moratorium and deportations. Similar to what they did in the 1920s when their immigration policy also started turning into an invasion. Hopefully, we're as smart as they were.
You're still missing it by a mile. The poll was about identity, not assimilation or allegiance. Drawing a straight line between the two dumbs down things that are connected but not equal. You keep skipping the part where 72% of 3rd generation US born hispanics think they are typical Americans. You can read it. It's still posted above.
Your history may also be a little bit wobbly. 1920s Nationalists followed the time-honored tradition of scapegoating immigrants (and Jews and Slavs and gays, etc.) for everything. By the late 30s we sure wished we could run that one back...
The immigration conversation has just gotten so dumb. Somehow the left got to a point where they didn't think we needed borders. Gift baskets at the door, welcome to our lands, please remember us at the polls. Now the right is trying to convince us we're under INVASION, culture hanging by a thread, more a wasteland than country at this point.
Half of fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants or their children. Jeebus, let's find a middle ground here, i
https://twitter.com/tiber_3/status/2082500561199346170?s=46
I'm against open borders. Prefer controlled, strategic immigration but your first tweet is misleading.
From the same Pew research: 72% of 3rd gen or higher US born Hispanics consider themselves "typical Americans" as opposed to "very different from typical Americans" -- Pew wasn't questioning allegiance in the part you retweeted.
Horse's mouth:
The tweet isn't misleading and your counter example is weak. Asking someone if they consider themselves a Mexican, American, or Hispanic is a much more objective question then do you consider yourself a "typical American".
Putting that side the takeaway is it takes several generations for foreigners to consider themselves Americans. Most likely at least 4, which isn't surprising.
Lol. Trying to use this poll to make a point about allegiance or assimilation is actually the weak sauce. Plenty of reasons to support sensible immigration policy without this lazy narrative.
My bad. Them saying they identify as something besides American first isn't good data on assimilation 😉
I support sensible immigration policy, as well. Like an immigration moratorium and deportations. Similar to what they did in the 1920s when their immigration policy also started turning into an invasion. Hopefully, we're as smart as they were.
You're still missing it by a mile. The poll was about identity, not assimilation or allegiance. Drawing a straight line between the two dumbs down things that are connected but not equal. You keep skipping the part where 72% of 3rd generation US born hispanics think they are typical Americans. You can read it. It's still posted above.
Your history may also be a little bit wobbly. 1920s Nationalists followed the time-honored tradition of scapegoating immigrants (and Jews and Slavs and gays, etc.) for everything. By the late 30s we sure wished we could run that one back...
The immigration conversation has just gotten so dumb. Somehow the left got to a point where they didn't think we needed borders. Gift baskets at the door, welcome to our lands, please remember us at the polls. Now the right is trying to convince us we're under INVASION, culture hanging by a thread, more a wasteland than country at this point.
Half of fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants or their children. Jeebus, let's find a middle ground here.
I didn't skip over the question. I addressed it in my first response to you. It's a much more subjective question compared to the guys initial tweet.
I literally posted the information in a graph for you. It's not hard to see. They made a new law in 1924 that cut back immigration drastically. And the country went on to become a superpower and largest economy on earth. We did just fine with little immigration for 40 years.
Not to mention government spending is around 10-12x what it was in the 20s when you include all levels of spending. Immigrants on average are net negative for the economy now. The country will balkanize if you don't cut back on it. The middle ground is little to no immigration for several decades.
I literally posted the information in a graph for you. It's not hard to see. They made a new law in 1924 that cut back immigration drastically. And the country went on to become a superpower and largest economy on earth. We did just fine with little immigration for 40 years.
They also passed Prohibition and gave women the vote. I think it was the sober chicks who Made America Great. Fight me.
https://twitter.com/tiber_3/status/2082500561199346170?s=46
I'm against open borders. Prefer controlled, strategic immigration but your first tweet is misleading.
From the same Pew research: 72% of 3rd gen or higher US born Hispanics consider themselves "typical Americans" as opposed to "very different from typical Americans" -- Pew wasn't questioning allegiance in the part you retweeted.
Horse's mouth:
The tweet isn't misleading and your counter example is weak. Asking someone if they consider themselves a Mexican, American, or Hispanic is a much more objective question then do you consider yourself a "typical American".
Putting that side the takeaway is it takes several generations for foreigners to consider themselves Americans. Most likely at least 4, which isn't surprising.
Lol. Trying to use this poll to make a point about allegiance or assimilation is actually the weak sauce. Plenty of reasons to support sensible immigration policy without this lazy narrative.
My bad. Them saying they identify as something besides American first isn't good data on assimilation 😉
I support sensible immigration policy, as well. Like an immigration moratorium and deportations. Similar to what they did in the 1920s when their immigration policy also started turning into an invasion. Hopefully, we're as smart as they were.
You're still missing it by a mile. The poll was about identity, not assimilation or allegiance. Drawing a straight line between the two dumbs down things that are connected but not equal. You keep skipping the part where 72% of 3rd generation US born hispanics think they are typical Americans. You can read it. It's still posted above.
Your history may also be a little bit wobbly. 1920s Nationalists followed the time-honored tradition of scapegoating immigrants (and Jews and Slavs and gays, etc.) for everything. By the late 30s we sure wished we could run that one back...
The immigration conversation has just gotten so dumb. Somehow the left got to a point where they didn't think we needed borders. Gift baskets at the door, welcome to our lands, please remember us at the polls. Now the right is trying to convince us we're under INVASION, culture hanging by a thread, more a wasteland than country at this point.
Half of fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants or their children. Jeebus, let's find a middle ground here.
They made a new law in 1924 that cut back immigration drastically. And the country went on to become a superpower and largest economy on earth.
You're drawing another direct line where none exists. The Great Depression and WW2 happened in there too. Was that because of Italian immigration to the US? Can we maybe say the good that comes from Italian sandwiches cancels out the harm caused by those Mario and Luigi MFers?
I literally posted the information in a graph for you. It's not hard to see. They made a new law in 1924 that cut back immigration drastically. And the country went on to become a superpower and largest economy on earth. We did just fine with little immigration for 40 years.
They also passed Prohibition and gave women the vote. I think it was the sober chicks who Made America Great. Fight me.
Suffragettes were proto-cat ladies.
@fredom why do you care so much if immigration is curtailed? We literally did it already and the country turned into a superpower and etc.
https://twitter.com/tiber_3/status/2082500561199346170?s=46
I'm against open borders. Prefer controlled, strategic immigration but your first tweet is misleading.
From the same Pew research: 72% of 3rd gen or higher US born Hispanics consider themselves "typical Americans" as opposed to "very different from typical Americans" -- Pew wasn't questioning allegiance in the part you retweeted.
Horse's mouth:
The tweet isn't misleading and your counter example is weak. Asking someone if they consider themselves a Mexican, American, or Hispanic is a much more objective question then do you consider yourself a "typical American".
Putting that side the takeaway is it takes several generations for foreigners to consider themselves Americans. Most likely at least 4, which isn't surprising.
Lol. Trying to use this poll to make a point about allegiance or assimilation is actually the weak sauce. Plenty of reasons to support sensible immigration policy without this lazy narrative.
My bad. Them saying they identify as something besides American first isn't good data on assimilation 😉
I support sensible immigration policy, as well. Like an immigration moratorium and deportations. Similar to what they did in the 1920s when their immigration policy also started turning into an invasion. Hopefully, we're as smart as they were.
You're still missing it by a mile. The poll was about identity, not assimilation or allegiance. Drawing a straight line between the two dumbs down things that are connected but not equal. You keep skipping the part where 72% of 3rd generation US born hispanics think they are typical Americans. You can read it. It's still posted above.
Your history may also be a little bit wobbly. 1920s Nationalists followed the time-honored tradition of scapegoating immigrants (and Jews and Slavs and gays, etc.) for everything. By the late 30s we sure wished we could run that one back...
The immigration conversation has just gotten so dumb. Somehow the left got to a point where they didn't think we needed borders. Gift baskets at the door, welcome to our lands, please remember us at the polls. Now the right is trying to convince us we're under INVASION, culture hanging by a thread, more a wasteland than country at this point.
Half of fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants or their children. Jeebus, let's find a middle ground here.
They made a new law in 1924 that cut back immigration drastically. And the country went on to become a superpower and largest economy on earth.
You're drawing another direct line where none exists. The Great Depression and WW2 happened in there too. Was that because of Italian immigration to the US? Can we maybe say the good that comes from Italian sandwiches cancels out the harm caused by those Mario and Luigi MFers?
Immigrants in substantial numbers are a net drain on our society. Too many are here to steal from me & take what should be for Americans, much less the crime & fraud. Learn how to make your own sandwich on the internet…
@fredom why do you care so much if immigration is curtailed? We literally did it already and the country turned into a superpower and etc.
It’ll cost them congressional seats & votes…
Them? That's how dumb the immigration conversation has become. I lean more Reagan, H.W. Bush on policy. I'm old enough to have voted for the latter. Make it strategic economically and geopolitically. And occasionally just helping people for the sake of humanity is also a nice soft power play.
- Fortune 500 Companies: Nearly half—46.2 percent—of 2025 Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or their children.
- Unicorn Companies: As of April 2026, 59% of U.S. "unicorn" companies (private companies valued at over $1 billion) have at least one immigrant founder.
- All Businesses: Immigrants account for 21.7% of all business owners in the United States.
- Main Street/Small Business: Immigrants constitute 27 percent of all Main Street business owners, including 34% of restaurants and 33% of grocery store owners.
@fredom why do you care so much if immigration is curtailed? We literally did it already and the country turned into a superpower and etc.
I'm a silly believer in principals of Liberal Democracy. You just keep repeating that second line. Doesn't make it #facts
The Immigration Act of 1924 (Johnson-Reed Act), building on the 1921 Emergency Quota Act, imposed strict national-origins quotas that sharply limited immigration, especially from Southern and Eastern Europe and Asia (Western Hemisphere countries were largely exempt until later). Combined with the Great Depression and World War II, this produced a long period of low inflows.
Key patterns in legal immigration (permanent residents/admissions, approximate decade totals from historical INS/Census-linked data):
- Pre-restriction peaks: ~8.8 million (1901–1910) and ~5.7 million (1911–1920).
- 1921–1930: ~4.1 million (still elevated early in the decade, then falling after 1924; annual figures dropped from hundreds of thousands to under 300,000 by the late 1920s).
- 1931–1940: ~0.5 million (very low, often under 100,000 per year).
- 1941–1950: ~1.0–1.1 million.
- 1951–1960: ~2.5 million.
- 1961–1970: ~3.3 million (beginning to rise, especially after the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act abolished national-origins quotas).
|
Year
|
Foreign-born (approx. millions)
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Share of total population
|
|---|---|---|
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1920
|
13.9–14.0
|
13.2%
|
|
1930
|
14.2
|
11.6%
|
|
1940
|
11.6
|
8.8%
|
|
1950
|
10.3
|
6.9%
|
|
1960
|
9.7
|
5.4%
|
|
1970
|
9.6
|
4.7% (record low)
|
The absolute number rose slightly into 1930 (from residual earlier immigration) then fell steadily as deaths among an aging immigrant cohort outpaced low new arrivals. The percentage declined continuously from the 1920s through 1970.
@fredom why do you care so much if immigration is curtailed? We literally did it already and the country turned into a superpower and etc.
I'm a silly believer in principals of Liberal Democracy. You just keep repeating that second line. Doesn't make it #facts
I keep posting it because it's a fact. More information below on it and feel free to run it through Grok yourself.Both annual immigration inflows and the foreign-born population (in absolute numbers after the early 1930s, and as a share of the total population throughout) declined substantially from the 1920s through the 1960s.
The Immigration Act of 1924 (Johnson-Reed Act), building on the 1921 Emergency Quota Act, imposed strict national-origins quotas that sharply limited immigration, especially from Southern and Eastern Europe and Asia (Western Hemisphere countries were largely exempt until later). Combined with the Great Depression and World War II, this produced a long period of low inflows.
Key patterns in legal immigration (permanent residents/admissions, approximate decade totals from historical INS/Census-linked data):
- Pre-restriction peaks: ~8.8 million (1901–1910) and ~5.7 million (1911–1920).
- 1921–1930: ~4.1 million (still elevated early in the decade, then falling after 1924; annual figures dropped from hundreds of thousands to under 300,000 by the late 1920s).
- 1931–1940: ~0.5 million (very low, often under 100,000 per year).
- 1941–1950: ~1.0–1.1 million.
- 1951–1960: ~2.5 million.
- 1961–1970: ~3.3 million (beginning to rise, especially after the 1965 Immigration and Nationality Act abolished national-origins quotas).
Inflows remained far below early-20th-century levels until the post-1965 era.Foreign-born population (U.S. Census data):
The absolute number rose slightly into 1930 (from residual earlier immigration) then fell steadily as deaths among an aging immigrant cohort outpaced low new arrivals. The percentage declined continuously from the 1920s through 1970.
This “immigration pause” (roughly 1924–1965) is a well-documented historical feature. Numbers and shares began rising again after the 1965 Act shifted policy toward family reunification and skills, with larger inflows from Latin America and Asia.
You're still struggling with this one. You keep pointing to immigration data and superpower status but aren't offering any evidence of causation or even correlation.
Disney started making cartoons in 1923, just as we (apparently) entered superpower status. You do the math.
PS Notice how our our industrial base has suffered since the rise of anime?