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Your argument works against Trump also. I don’t pretend to have the answers. Trump is by far the seediest of the three so he gets the least benefit of the doubt. 

If and when all of the files, unredacted, are released we will have answers. 

No, it doesn't work against Trump  Biden had access to the information. Why didn't he release it if it showed Trump in compromising state like Gates and Clinton? 

 

It absolutely works. If the files only contain damaging information against Clinton and Gates, why didn't Trump release them?

This whole thing works the same on both sides. Clearly, either the files are a scam and don't actually show much of anything, or they implicate so many people on both sides that they've all conspired to never release them. Trying to claim both parties behaved the same way because only one of them was implicated is just plain stupid.

 

No, it doesn't because Trump wasn't running against Clinton or Gates. Also, Trump did release them.  

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:30 pm
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Also, Trump did release them.

LOL. GTFO with this bullshit.


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:32 pm
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@snarlcakes Obviously I don’t know. You don’t either. Who’s pretending he does?

Why did Melania lie in her press conference? The whole thing is insidiously shady. 

Why keep inferring there is dirt on Trump then in the files?  

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:32 pm
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Also, Trump did release them.

LOL. GTFO with this bullshit.

You really are just dumb, dude.  

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:33 pm
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If Bibi was going to do it no matter what it makes no sense for Trump to assume the risk and take the blame, assuming Trump didn't want to do it already.

I agree, but Rubio already told us that it did make sense because Trump was convinced that the Iranian response to Bibi's attack was going to threaten our troops in unacceptable ways, so we were forced to preemptively decimate their response capabilities.

I think it was Doucey who asked Trump if Bibi "forced his hand." To which Trump replied, "No, in fact I think I forced his hand." Which in Trumpspeak is a confession.

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:33 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Also, Trump did release them.

LOL. GTFO with this bullshit.

You really are just dumb, dude.  

 

I'm dumb? After the administration spent an entire year explaining why they didn't actually need to release anything, you're saying they actually did release it, and I'm dumb? Fuck off.

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:34 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

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@snarlcakes Obviously I don’t know. You don’t either. Who’s pretending he does?

Why did Melania lie in her press conference? The whole thing is insidiously shady. 

Why keep inferring there is dirt on Trump then in the files?  

 

I’m not inferring anything. I’m saying I don’t know. And it’s shady that Trump released half the files redacted like a SOB after promising MAGA he’d release them all. You know all this. 

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:35 pm
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Posted by: @hhlurker

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @hhlurker

@snarlcakes Obviously I don’t know. You don’t either. Who’s pretending he does?

Why did Melania lie in her press conference? The whole thing is insidiously shady. 

Why keep inferring there is dirt on Trump then in the files?  

 

I’m not inferring anything. I’m saying I don’t know. And it’s shady that Trump released half the files redacted like a SOB after promising MAGA he’d release them all. You know all this. 

 

Bullshit.  I've asked you several times to explain why Biden didn't release them and you just weasel out of the answer.  

 

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:49 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @snarlcakes

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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Also, Trump did release them.

LOL. GTFO with this bullshit.

You really are just dumb, dude.  

 

I'm dumb? After the administration spent an entire year explaining why they didn't actually need to release anything, you're saying they actually did release it, and I'm dumb? Fuck off.

 

Biden didn't release them because there wasn't any dirt on Trump.  You're dumb because you can't figure that out. 

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 9:51 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

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Posted by: @goat

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Also, Trump did release them.

LOL. GTFO with this bullshit.

You really are just dumb, dude.  

 

I'm dumb? After the administration spent an entire year explaining why they didn't actually need to release anything, you're saying they actually did release it, and I'm dumb? Fuck off.

 

Biden didn't release them because there wasn't any dirt on Trump.  You're dumb because you can't figure that out. 

 

You are usually reasonable, but tonight you're being a dick. I'm done. Cheers.

 


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Posted : 05/01/2026 10:01 pm
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"Reuters reporting, with officials and others close to both leaders speaking mostly on condition of anonymity given the sensitivity of internal deliberations, does not suggest that Netanyahu forced Trump to go to war. But the reporting shows that the Israeli leader was an effective advocate and that his framing of the decision – including the opportunity to kill an Iranian leader who allegedly had overseen efforts to kill Trump – was persuasive to the president."

Exclusive: Trump approved Iran operation after Netanyahu argued for joint killing of Khamenei, sources say | Reuters


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Posted : 05/01/2026 11:19 pm
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The next President needs to be a boring process person that most people have never heard of.


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Posted : 05/02/2026 9:46 am
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Also, Trump did release them.

LOL. GTFO with this bullshit.

You really are just dumb, dude.  

 

I'm dumb? After the administration spent an entire year explaining why they didn't actually need to release anything, you're saying they actually did release it, and I'm dumb? Fuck off.

 

We are never getting those files. It is all just theater at this point.

 


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Posted : 05/02/2026 9:48 am
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 Butch Crawling recall a seminar attended by Lee Hamilton who warned against assassinating high profile enemy figures as Obama when president had done when Obama ordered the killing of non-state militant leaders.

Hamilton argued that such orders by a president would undoubtedly lead to assassinations of heads of state as occurred recently in Iran. Hamilton visualized a day could come when a U.S. President would be assassinated by a drone in retaliation for one of our assassinations.

Ironically, Trump recently complained that the Iranian leaders currently in charge following the assassination of the former leadership lack the standing to make decisions necessary for a negotiated deal. Trump has called them "disjointed", "argumentative", and "fractured". Thus, by knocking out the old guard, have we made a peace deal more difficult?


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Posted : 05/03/2026 2:17 pm
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 Butch Crawling recall a seminar attended by Lee Hamilton who warned against assassinating high profile enemy figures as Obama when president had done when Obama ordered the killing of non-state militant leaders.

Hamilton argued that such orders by a president would undoubtedly lead to assassinations of heads of state as occurred recently in Iran. Hamilton visualized a day could come when a U.S. President would be assassinated by a drone in retaliation for one of our assassinations.

Ironically, Trump recently complained that the Iranian leaders currently in charge following the assassination of the former leadership lack the standing to make decisions necessary for a negotiated deal. Trump has called them "disjointed", "argumentative", and "fractured". Thus, by knocking out the old guard, have we made a peace deal more difficult?

The answer is - of course. On the flip side, it's nice that he is dead and his son is basically a vegetable. 

 


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