portray herself and her family as All American apple pie God fearing family values types.
Did she really do that? I admit I haven't really paid much attention, but I only remember the dumb "move to S Dakota" commercials and cringy "Mt Rushmore on horseback" stuff. Assumed she was married, but no idea if she even has kids.
. As a conservative leader, she has championed restrictions on LGBTQ+ rights and abortion. Her brand, built on transparency, has recently faced scrutiny following reports of personal scandals and alleged infidelity.
- Family-Centric Messaging: Noem frequently highlights her family life, representing herself as an Evangelical Christian mother and wife, often referencing her "transparent," "open book" family life.
- Conservative Social Policy: Her political career features a hard line on social issues, including restricting abortion and restricting LGBTQ+ rights.
- "God-Fearing" Brand: She has historically focused her messaging on conservative Christian values and a wholesome South Dakota image.
- Scrutiny of Values: In 2026, her platform faced accusations of hypocrisy due to reports of her husband's controversial online activity and alleged extramarital affairs.
@unclemark That must be from her SD campaigns. I just googled her and all her kids are adults and she's a grandmother. I had no idea. She was actually attractive at one point.
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If kids are involved, most should probably try to work it out.
I think this is central. I'm like Mark in that for me, infidelity would be a red line. I don't think I would be capable of moving past it. But I have no kids, and when people I know decide to stay together after an affair, they invariably have kids, and I can understand that would have to dramatically change the math.
@unclemark That must be from her SD campaigns. I just googled her and all her kids are adults and she's a grandmother. I had no idea. She was actually attractive at one point.
I'm sure it was. My search was "kristi noem family values platform."
And yes, I've said for some time that Congresswoman Noem was a babe, and she's gone decidedly downhill since. And no, I'm not talking about her picking up a few more years.
I think what you're describing is a different issue. What you are describing, I think, is your own personal psychological lines, ability to forgive, etc. That's different than saying you have a moral hang up with people who commit infidelity in general, which is what I took Mark and Marv to be saying.If kids are involved, most should probably try to work it out.
I think this is central. I'm like Mark in that for me, infidelity would be a red line. I don't think I would be capable of moving past it. But I have no kids, and when people I know decide to stay together after an affair, they invariably have kids, and I can understand that would have to dramatically change the math.
I think what you're describing is a different issue. What you are describing, I think, is your own personal psychological lines, ability to forgive, etc. That's different than saying you have a moral hang up with people who commit infidelity in general, which is what I took Mark and Marv to be saying.If kids are involved, most should probably try to work it out.
I think this is central. I'm like Mark in that for me, infidelity would be a red line. I don't think I would be capable of moving past it. But I have no kids, and when people I know decide to stay together after an affair, they invariably have kids, and I can understand that would have to dramatically change the math.
Ah. Yeah, not sure about Marv, but I was definitely reading Mark differently than you were.
That's different than saying you have a moral hang up with people who commit infidelity in general, which is what I took Mark and Marv to be saying.
Let's just say I have little respect for philanderers, and no sympathy when their infidelity catches up with them.
Didn't realize you two were so self-righteous.
To me, every marriage is different. Re extramarital affiars being worse than divorce, I think it's case by case. If kids are involved, most should probably try to work it out.
If she didn't browbeat people she doesn't like over the head with the Bible, I wouldn't care. You never see me talk about other affairs. But she comes to use Scripture to condemn people. So it is fair to ask where it says having an affair to preserve a marriage "for the kids" is in The Bible. Chapter and verse please
I am tired of the Bible being a weapon against gays by people who flaunt the exact same rules.
Otherwise, I do not care. I don't care about Hegseth's drinking, Trump's affairs, any of it. God will sort it all out, not me. And when it comes to gays, a Nowm will not be the one to sort it out. I am not gay, don't care if others are. I am not going to have an affair, don't care if others do. I have never used pot, don't care that a lot of friends did.
To each his own. I'd take Rep. Noem over Sec. Noem every time. I understand I have a "type" and the current Kristi ain't it. I don't like bottle blondes, either. Authenticity counts for a lot.
To each his own. I'd take Rep. Noem over Sec. Noem every time. I understand I have a "type" and the current Kristi ain't it. I don't like bottle blondes, either. Authenticity counts for a lot.

OK, so you're a bit different than UncleMark. I shouldn't have lumped you two together.Didn't realize you two were so self-righteous.
To me, every marriage is different. Re extramarital affiars being worse than divorce, I think it's case by case. If kids are involved, most should probably try to work it out.
If she didn't browbeat people she doesn't like over the head with the Bible, I wouldn't care. You never see me talk about other affairs. But she comes to use Scripture to condemn people. So it is fair to ask where it says having an affair to preserve a marriage "for the kids" is in The Bible. Chapter and verse please
I am tired of the Bible being a weapon against gays by people who flaunt the exact same rules.
Otherwise, I do not care. I don't care about Hegseth's drinking, Trump's affairs, any of it. God will sort it all out, not me. And when it comes to gays, a Nowm will not be the one to sort it out. I am not gay, don't care if others are. I am not going to have an affair, don't care if others do. I have never used pot, don't care that a lot of friends did.
UncleMark is the sanctimonious prude.


