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BradStevens
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Just to be clear, the reason doctors prescribe Tylenol to expectant mothers is because there is a genuinely researched link between fever and birth defects. If this story is accurate, the only likely medical result is that more babies are harmed.

My wife said you can't take ibuprofen or aspirin because of bleeding, so Tylenol is pretty much the only pain killer.  To which I responded:  well, time for pregnant women to suck it up. No more loafing.  

I'm sleeping on the couch tonight.  

 


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Posted : 09/21/2025 10:57 pm
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@aloha-hoosier asking questions.  That’s what we should be doing.


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:00 pm
BradStevens
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@goat your only likely medical result is absurd. You’re way out of your depth here once again.  Stick to non league play on certain topics 😉

So telling that instead of hope that there may be something to these claims, the assumption is that more babies will have medical problems before seeing one iota of data.   Will they solve it?  I don’t know, but my first sentiment is hope & excitement, not disdain, no matter who’s in charge.  Hell, even skepticism is understandable, but not that it will do more damage, that’s effed up & a perfect example of TDS.  Maybe because I’m a parent & know people who struggle with a child on the spectrum every day…

 

I think it has more to do with skepticism that some grand scientific find comes from a Presidential reveal rather than a peer reviewed research paper being published and then reproduced, added upon, etc.  

 


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:01 pm
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@aloha-hoosier asking questions.  That’s what we should be doing.

I’m literally questioning.

 


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:03 pm
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@aloha-hoosier as is Harvard mount Sinai and others very recently


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:06 pm
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@bradstevens you know what happened.  Credible research revealed an association not necessarily causation and more study is needed and the admin said f it run with it

Doesn’t mean we should dismiss it bc of who is promoting it. Means we should get busy studying it more. It’s exciting 


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:15 pm
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BradStevens
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@bradstevens you know what happened.  Credible research revealed an association not necessarily causation and more study is needed and the admin said f it run with it

Doesn’t mean we should dismiss it bc of who is promoting it. Means we should get busy studying it more. It’s exciting 

I get it. I doubt that's how it will be presented. 

At this point, it wouldn't surprise me if RFKJr's firm had 10,000 clients already signed up, with complaints ready to be filed right after this announcement.  

 


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:25 pm
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@bradstevens 🤣


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:32 pm
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@bradstevens 🤣

If that happened, I think crazed_hoosier would have a stroke.

 


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:47 pm
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@bradstevens 🤣🤣


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:48 pm
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@bradstevens Exactly.


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Posted : 09/21/2025 11:49 pm
Shooter
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Trump is apparently going to share a hypothesis.  That's great.  The hypothesis will then be evaluated,  not based on any "belief" but by the level of support for it... the DATA.  Is it plausible or is it not?

Is it based on a study using valid methods and published after peer review? Does it contradict other prior well-done peer reviewed studies? If it does, has anyone else independently validated the conclusions of the new study? Of the old study?  Why or why not? If studies contradict,  what new studies can be done, with rigor, to clarify the issue?

I will accept a Trump claim for the existence of little green sea creatures living on a Saturn moon, IF HE SHARES PLAUSIBLE SUPPORT for that claim. 

If Tylenol is dangerous in some situations,  by all means ban it in those situations.  As someone who has had a stomach ulcer and can't take NSAIDs --- Tylenol is the only OTC pain reliever I can use -- it would suck if it's awful for some reason. But I will follow the data.


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 09/22/2025 12:06 am
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Posted by: @goat
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Just to be clear, the reason doctors prescribe Tylenol to expectant mothers is because there is a genuinely researched link between fever and birth defects. If this story is accurate, the only likely medical result is that more babies are harmed.

It's just Tylenol that's the issue.  Generic acetaminophen is supposedly fine.

 


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Posted : 09/22/2025 6:29 am
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Apparently Trump is going to announce the end of autism in the "most important press conference" he's ever done tomorrow! How disappointed are the conspiracy theorists going to be when they found out autism isn't caused by vaccines, but by Tylenol*.

*Not a joke - that's what the leaks say.

 

Hell…and here I thought it was going to be about giving infants Tylenol…not expectant mothers. 

 


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Posted : 09/22/2025 7:12 am
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Trump is apparently going to share a hypothesis.  That's great.  The hypothesis will then be evaluated,  not based on any "belief" but by the level of support for it... the DATA.  Is it plausible or is it not?

Is it based on a study using valid methods and published after peer review? Does it contradict other prior well-done peer reviewed studies? If it does, has anyone else independently validated the conclusions of the new study? Of the old study?  Why or why not? If studies contradict,  what new studies can be done, with rigor, to clarify the issue?

I will accept a Trump claim for the existence of little green sea creatures living on a Saturn moon, IF HE SHARES PLAUSIBLE SUPPORT for that claim. 

If Tylenol is dangerous in some situations,  by all means ban it in those situations.  As someone who has had a stomach ulcer and can't take NSAIDs --- Tylenol is the only OTC pain reliever I can use -- it would suck if it's awful for some reason. But I will follow the data.

 

Why can’t you use Celebrex? Isn’t it more selective?

 


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Posted : 09/22/2025 7:17 am
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