@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
LOL you think this matters. Of course non-citizen voting barely if ever happens. Why would non-citizens vote? Why would they want to draw attention to themselves and risk their existence here? It's basic common sense. But that's not the point. You keep thinking these people are trying to convince you with arguments based in fact or evidence (even when wrong). They aren't. The only purpose of these arguments is to rile up the (stupid end of the) base and turn out voters. It doesn't matter that non-citizens don't vote. What matters is that Joe Blow is scared that they might. @oneeyedundertaker is terrified that foreigners are going to change the system of government that he's become accustomed to. It doesn't matter that such fear is not only utterly baseless, but downright ridiculous. What matters is that such fear drives him to make sure his voter registration is up to date and he gets up early on election day to go cast his vote against those dangerous foreigners.
People need to stop thinking of politics as a policy debate. It was once, two or three hundred years ago. But it's not, now. Now, politics is, who can scare their supporters the most. That's all it is.
The data clearly shows foreigners (immigrants and their children, grandchildren, and etc.) are changing the government and U.S. New York and Mandami are clear example of it by the way. The only debate is to what extent and if we're going to continue allowing it to happen.
no, the data do not show that, and you're a gullible idiot if you think they do.@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
LOL you think this matters. Of course non-citizen voting barely if ever happens. Why would non-citizens vote? Why would they want to draw attention to themselves and risk their existence here? It's basic common sense. But that's not the point. You keep thinking these people are trying to convince you with arguments based in fact or evidence (even when wrong). They aren't. The only purpose of these arguments is to rile up the (stupid end of the) base and turn out voters. It doesn't matter that non-citizens don't vote. What matters is that Joe Blow is scared that they might. @oneeyedundertaker is terrified that foreigners are going to change the system of government that he's become accustomed to. It doesn't matter that such fear is not only utterly baseless, but downright ridiculous. What matters is that such fear drives him to make sure his voter registration is up to date and he gets up early on election day to go cast his vote against those dangerous foreigners.
People need to stop thinking of politics as a policy debate. It was once, two or three hundred years ago. But it's not, now. Now, politics is, who can scare their supporters the most. That's all it is.
The data clearly shows foreigners (immigrants and their children, grandchildren, and etc.) are changing the government and U.S. New York and Mandami are clear example of it by the way. The only debate is to what extent and if we're going to continue allowing it to happen.
no, the data do not show that, and you're a gullible idiot if you think they do.@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
LOL you think this matters. Of course non-citizen voting barely if ever happens. Why would non-citizens vote? Why would they want to draw attention to themselves and risk their existence here? It's basic common sense. But that's not the point. You keep thinking these people are trying to convince you with arguments based in fact or evidence (even when wrong). They aren't. The only purpose of these arguments is to rile up the (stupid end of the) base and turn out voters. It doesn't matter that non-citizens don't vote. What matters is that Joe Blow is scared that they might. @oneeyedundertaker is terrified that foreigners are going to change the system of government that he's become accustomed to. It doesn't matter that such fear is not only utterly baseless, but downright ridiculous. What matters is that such fear drives him to make sure his voter registration is up to date and he gets up early on election day to go cast his vote against those dangerous foreigners.
People need to stop thinking of politics as a policy debate. It was once, two or three hundred years ago. But it's not, now. Now, politics is, who can scare their supporters the most. That's all it is.
The data clearly shows foreigners (immigrants and their children, grandchildren, and etc.) are changing the government and U.S. New York and Mandami are clear example of it by the way. The only debate is to what extent and if we're going to continue allowing it to happen.
You’re saying that reapportionment of congressional seats due to census data doesn’t have an impact on the distribution of political power? If so, you’re the idiot…
@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
LOL you think this matters. Of course non-citizen voting barely if ever happens. Why would non-citizens vote? Why would they want to draw attention to themselves and risk their existence here? It's basic common sense. But that's not the point. You keep thinking these people are trying to convince you with arguments based in fact or evidence (even when wrong). They aren't. The only purpose of these arguments is to rile up the (stupid end of the) base and turn out voters. It doesn't matter that non-citizens don't vote. What matters is that Joe Blow is scared that they might. @oneeyedundertaker is terrified that foreigners are going to change the system of government that he's become accustomed to. It doesn't matter that such fear is not only utterly baseless, but downright ridiculous. What matters is that such fear drives him to make sure his voter registration is up to date and he gets up early on election day to go cast his vote against those dangerous foreigners.
People need to stop thinking of politics as a policy debate. It was once, two or three hundred years ago. But it's not, now. Now, politics is, who can scare their supporters the most. That's all it is.
Ignorance is bliss for some…
Yes, immigration—particularly large-scale and sustained inflows including significant illegal entries—has been reshaping U.S. demographics, culture, economy, and social fabric for decades, accelerating in recent years. This isn’t abstract or conspiratorial; it’s observable in census data, public records, voting patterns, language use, religious shifts, crime statistics in certain locales, and polling. The scale and composition matter: post-1965 policy changes shifted sources from Europe to Latin America, Asia, and Africa, increasing diversity but challenging assimilation compared to earlier waves.
Demographics
The foreign-born share of the U.S. population rose from ~5% in 1960 to around 13-15% in recent years (pre-2025 peaks), with higher concentrations in states like California, New York, Texas, and Florida. Including U.S.-born children of immigrants pushes the “immigrant-origin” share near 25-30%+. Net migration (legal + illegal) has driven most U.S. population growth since the 1990s, as native birth rates fell below replacement. Recent border encounters exceeded 2+ million annually in peak Biden-era years (CBP data), with millions of releases into the interior plus got-aways and parole programs. This alters electoral maps, school districts, and housing demand faster than infrastructure adapts. Projections from Census and Pew (pre-2026) showed continued shifts toward majority-minority status by 2040s-2050s if trends hold.
Culture and Way of Life
- Language and norms: English proficiency varies; large Spanish-dominant enclaves persist in parts of the Southwest, Miami, etc., with bilingual education debates and “press 2 for English.” Polls (Pew/Gallup) show majorities of Americans view rapid change as eroding a shared culture—e.g., declining emphasis on individualism, secularism, and nuclear family in favor of imported collectivist, religious, or clan-based patterns from high-fertility source countries.
- Religion and values: Rise in non-Christian populations (Muslim, Hindu, etc.) alongside secular natives. Honor-based violence, FGM cases, parallel societies, and polling gaps on issues like free speech, LGBT acceptance, women’s roles, or democracy appear in surveys of certain immigrant groups vs. natives.
- Assimilation evidence: Historical European waves assimilated over generations via intermarriage, economic mobility, and cultural pressure. Post-1965 cohorts show slower rates in some metrics (language, intermarriage, welfare use, patriotism). “Salad bowl” multiculturalism policies often prioritized preservation over melting pot. Chain migration and remittances sustain ties to origin countries.
- Everyday life: Shifts in cuisine, holidays, music are positives for many. Tensions arise in trust/social capital (Putnam’s diversity research: short-term declines in community cohesion), public spaces, festivals, and political discourse (“global city” vs. heartland).
Public opinion consistently shows concern: Gallup/Pew polls find 50-70%+ of Americans (including many Hispanics) want reduced immigration, better enforcement, and prioritize assimilation. Dissatisfaction spiked with visible strains like migrant shelters overwhelming cities (NYC, Chicago, Denver), tent encampments, and cultural flashpoints.
Economy and Public Services
Immigration expands GDP and labor (agriculture, tech, services), fills low-wage jobs, and boosts innovation (e.g., founders). However, studies (National Academies, Borjas, CIS) indicate:
- Depresses wages for lower-skilled natives (high school or less) by 3-10% in some sectors.
- Net fiscal drain at state/local levels due to education, healthcare, welfare for low-skilled arrivals and their children (CBO/CIS estimates: hundreds of billions annually).
- Housing costs rise with population pressure; schools face overcrowding and language barriers. High-skilled legal immigration (H-1B) has clearer upsides but also displaces via outsourcing/lower wages in STEM.
Crime and Security
Overall immigrant crime rates often match or undercut natives in aggregate stats (selection effects). But:
- Illegal immigrants: Disproportionate involvement in federal crimes, drug trafficking (fentanyl crisis), gang activity (MS-13, Tren de Aragua), and specific offenses (DUI, homicide in border areas/Sanctuary cities per GAO/Texas DPS data).
- High-profile cases and ICE detainers fuel perception of two-tiered enforcement.
- Terrorism/watchlist encounters at border rose sharply post-2021.
Different Perspectives
- Pro-large immigration: Economic growth, demographic vitality against aging, cultural enrichment, humanitarianism, globalist view of America as “nation of immigrants” (ignoring pauses like 1924-1965).
- Restrictionist: Sovereignty, rule of law, preserving Anglo-European founding institutions, social cohesion, wage protection for working class. Emphasizes legal pathways over chaos, and successful historical models requiring selection + assimilation.
- Empirical reality: Benefits are real but unevenly distributed (gains to employers/consumers, costs to taxpayers/low-skilled workers). Rapid, low-skilled inflows strain the welfare state and trust more than selective ones. European parallels (Sweden, France, UK post-mass migration) show amplified issues with integration failures.
America has always absorbed foreigners, but volume, speed, legality, skill/education levels, and policy (amnesty incentives, birthright citizenship, weak enforcement) determine outcomes. Current trends favor transformation over continuity. Policy levers—E-Verify, border security, merit-based reform, English requirements, deportation priorities—could recalibrate without halting immigration. Public will (per polls) leans toward control. Data evolves; outcomes depend on enforcement and immigrant selection.
@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
I assume you realize every example you listed, with the exception of the Supreme Court appointment, can be undone? Lol. Difficultly, pfft. Lots of things are difficult, but the point is they are not permanent, which you acknowledge in each paragraph.
BTW, you have issues with his Supreme appointments? Why?
I'll push back a little on this with you in the broader scheme of things.@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
I assume you realize every example you listed, with the exception of the Supreme Court appointment, can be undone? Lol. Difficultly, pfft. Lots of things are difficult, but the point is they are not permanent, which you acknowledge in each paragraph.
BTW, you have issues with his Supreme appointments? Why?
Trump is the most significant and influential (whether you like him or hate him) political figure of our lifetimes, probably since FDR. His charisma, attitudes, political positions, and style have shifted both parties in different directions--or given cover to the zealots in each to take control, however you prefer to characterize it--that I do not believe can be "undone." They will change more, in time, based on other macro factors, but they won't be intentionally undone. I'd guess that political historians will look back on the US in 100 years and identify clear time periods between pre-Trump and post-Trump.
Now, I'd admit that the changes were already occurring before Trump (and many of the things butchcrawling complains about were occurring to a lesser extent in other presidencies--certainly growing concentration of power in the Executive has been a concern for a very, very long time), but he clearly accelerated them and pushed them in certain directions (tariffs in the GOP--who would have thunk it? Incivility coming out of the Office of the President? I don't think anyone else could have normalized that or pushed it to the extent Trump has) that are unique to his own personality. It's also very possible that people like this were always around in politics, but could not gain traction until the age of social media or that his brand of politics wasn't viable until the populace's trust in institutions decreased to a certain point, a dwindling trust created by past policies of both parties.
@bradstevens Fair points, & I can’t disagree that he’s helped create zealots on each end of the spectrum, but would you agree that one group of them wants a continuation of our way of life while the other wants to transform society, or at least allow for it to be transformed, largely by foreigners & their influence?
@snarlcakes you have data that show foreigners are changing our government? I'd like to see it.
@snarlcakes you have data that show foreigners are changing our government? I'd like to see it.
Look at the Presidential elections of 1972 and 1984. Look at who has recently been elected in NYC. You'll quickly see how foreigners are changing our government.
@oneeyedundertaker absolutely. Trump is a blowhard and acts more like a ceo than a representative. But the policies don’t fundamentally change America. They aren’t to become a socialistic country. To change how we look. Bringing in 2 million foreigners a year. Trump wants to bring back the old nostalgic America. The left wants to make us Venezuela
Both moderate dems and pubs need to figure something out with re to Israel.
We had that figured out in Trump’s first term. It’s called the Abraham Accords. The democrats hated those agreements for reasons not entirely clear. Maybe it was just cuz Trump! Too many people lose their shit over Trump and that itself is causing more problems. I think there are reasons why October 7 happened on the Democrats’ watch. Blinken’s statements were a good clue.
Trump is a blowhard and acts more like a ceo than a representative.
Maybe that s because he is a ceo and not a representative. There are many blowhards in Congress. Occupational disease.
@jdb @big-ryan see jdb's post above. nyc literally elected a terrorist and you're worried about trump caring about america. good grief you're lost
I don't care about nyc. I care about the country, and Trump's a cancer on it.
Corruption is his calling card. He's pocketing billions while driving up prices. He has no freaking idea what to do next in Iran. And, as Ron Paul has noted, he's "pursuing a policy arguably just as, if not more, dangerous to liberty and prosperity as anything proposed by Zohran Mamdani or Bernie Sanders: using government funds to purchase partial ownership of private companies."
Wake up!
Whatever the take on Trump’s actions, name one that can’t be undone. You know what can’t? Filling the electorate with foreigners & allowing them to change our entire form of government & its makeup. Trump & his idiocy aren’t forever. Gov’t stake in business can be sold, wars can be ended. The changes Dems are promoting will change the country forever, & we can count you among those that want to see it made into something else…
The Trump shit can be easily undone?! Are you effing kidding me?
First, non-citizen voting is virtually non-existent, but Trump's constant bullshit drumbeat about this, about election fraud in general (the Heritage Foundation's comprehensive database of fraud related to American elections proves that such fraud is miniscule, with no impact on outcomes) and his ongoing Lie that the 2020 election was stolen from him "come at a real cost to American confidence in our elections. It’s an affront to our democracy and to all those who work to deliver free and fair elections. It’s also an ominous sign for where things may be heading this year."
Additionally, consider the damage he (and Musk) have inflicted on the federal government. Massive dismissals, with highly partisan loyalists (even at lower levels) as replacements, and the hollowing out of specialized expertise in government agencies (they shitcanned many people they shouldn't have, and then couldn't locate a number of them when they realized they needed to hire them back) will be difficult to reverse, as a future administration would struggle to quickly rehire or replace qualified, nonpartisan staff.
Also, the independence of the Justice Department has been honored by every US president since Nixon and because of Nixon - - until Trump. He's installed his personal attorney as the AG. In what may or may not have been a slip of the tongue during Senate hearings today, Blanche said he IS Trump's lawyer. He is clearly there to do Trump's personal bidding as Trump continues on his retribution campaign.
Further, Trump's appointments to federal courts including the US Supreme Court, have implications that will long outlast Trump's tenure. Also, major statutory changes, such as congressionally sanctioned tax laws, are far more difficult to repeal without a willing and cooperative legislature.
You think he (or anyone) can easily end this ill-advised war that he started? Middle East wars have historically been quicksand. They're exceedingly difficult to get out of.
He's spending over a billion of TAXPAYER dollars for his new ballroom, the retrofitting of his new Qatari-gifted plane, his new helipad, the new front entrance to the White House, the Arc de Trump, and other vanity projects. You think all of that can be easily undone? Don't make me laugh.
Finally, I love this country and the representative democracy that has thrived for most of my life. I don't want it, to use your words, "made into something else" which is exactly what Trump and his cronies are doing. We're a backsliding democracy now, with a clear shift toward autocracy. I can provide plenty of support for that claim, with examples and cites if you need them.
Trump’s Claims About Noncitizens Voting Are False. We Can Prove It. | Cato Institute
LOL you think this matters. Of course non-citizen voting barely if ever happens. Why would non-citizens vote? Why would they want to draw attention to themselves and risk their existence here? It's basic common sense. But that's not the point. You keep thinking these people are trying to convince you with arguments based in fact or evidence (even when wrong). They aren't. The only purpose of these arguments is to rile up the (stupid end of the) base and turn out voters. It doesn't matter that non-citizens don't vote. What matters is that Joe Blow is scared that they might. @oneeyedundertaker is terrified that foreigners are going to change the system of government that he's become accustomed to. It doesn't matter that such fear is not only utterly baseless, but downright ridiculous. What matters is that such fear drives him to make sure his voter registration is up to date and he gets up early on election day to go cast his vote against those dangerous foreigners.
People need to stop thinking of politics as a policy debate. It was once, two or three hundred years ago. But it's not, now. Now, politics is, who can scare their supporters the most. That's all it is.
Ignorance is bliss for some…
Yes, immigration—particularly large-scale and sustained inflows including significant illegal entries—has been reshaping U.S. demographics, culture, economy, and social fabric for decades, accelerating in recent years. This isn’t abstract or conspiratorial; it’s observable in census data, public records, voting patterns, language use, religious shifts, crime statistics in certain locales, and polling. The scale and composition matter: post-1965 policy changes shifted sources from Europe to Latin America, Asia, and Africa, increasing diversity but challenging assimilation compared to earlier waves.
Demographics
The foreign-born share of the U.S. population rose from ~5% in 1960 to around 13-15% in recent years (pre-2025 peaks), with higher concentrations in states like California, New York, Texas, and Florida. Including U.S.-born children of immigrants pushes the “immigrant-origin” share near 25-30%+. Net migration (legal + illegal) has driven most U.S. population growth since the 1990s, as native birth rates fell below replacement. Recent border encounters exceeded 2+ million annually in peak Biden-era years (CBP data), with millions of releases into the interior plus got-aways and parole programs. This alters electoral maps, school districts, and housing demand faster than infrastructure adapts. Projections from Census and Pew (pre-2026) showed continued shifts toward majority-minority status by 2040s-2050s if trends hold.
Culture and Way of Life
- Language and norms: English proficiency varies; large Spanish-dominant enclaves persist in parts of the Southwest, Miami, etc., with bilingual education debates and “press 2 for English.” Polls (Pew/Gallup) show majorities of Americans view rapid change as eroding a shared culture—e.g., declining emphasis on individualism, secularism, and nuclear family in favor of imported collectivist, religious, or clan-based patterns from high-fertility source countries.
- Religion and values: Rise in non-Christian populations (Muslim, Hindu, etc.) alongside secular natives. Honor-based violence, FGM cases, parallel societies, and polling gaps on issues like free speech, LGBT acceptance, women’s roles, or democracy appear in surveys of certain immigrant groups vs. natives.
- Assimilation evidence: Historical European waves assimilated over generations via intermarriage, economic mobility, and cultural pressure. Post-1965 cohorts show slower rates in some metrics (language, intermarriage, welfare use, patriotism). “Salad bowl” multiculturalism policies often prioritized preservation over melting pot. Chain migration and remittances sustain ties to origin countries.
- Everyday life: Shifts in cuisine, holidays, music are positives for many. Tensions arise in trust/social capital (Putnam’s diversity research: short-term declines in community cohesion), public spaces, festivals, and political discourse (“global city” vs. heartland).
Public opinion consistently shows concern: Gallup/Pew polls find 50-70%+ of Americans (including many Hispanics) want reduced immigration, better enforcement, and prioritize assimilation. Dissatisfaction spiked with visible strains like migrant shelters overwhelming cities (NYC, Chicago, Denver), tent encampments, and cultural flashpoints.
Economy and Public Services
Immigration expands GDP and labor (agriculture, tech, services), fills low-wage jobs, and boosts innovation (e.g., founders). However, studies (National Academies, Borjas, CIS) indicate:
- Depresses wages for lower-skilled natives (high school or less) by 3-10% in some sectors.
- Net fiscal drain at state/local levels due to education, healthcare, welfare for low-skilled arrivals and their children (CBO/CIS estimates: hundreds of billions annually).
- Housing costs rise with population pressure; schools face overcrowding and language barriers. High-skilled legal immigration (H-1B) has clearer upsides but also displaces via outsourcing/lower wages in STEM.
Crime and Security
Overall immigrant crime rates often match or undercut natives in aggregate stats (selection effects). But:
- Illegal immigrants: Disproportionate involvement in federal crimes, drug trafficking (fentanyl crisis), gang activity (MS-13, Tren de Aragua), and specific offenses (DUI, homicide in border areas/Sanctuary cities per GAO/Texas DPS data).
- High-profile cases and ICE detainers fuel perception of two-tiered enforcement.
- Terrorism/watchlist encounters at border rose sharply post-2021.
Different Perspectives
- Pro-large immigration: Economic growth, demographic vitality against aging, cultural enrichment, humanitarianism, globalist view of America as “nation of immigrants” (ignoring pauses like 1924-1965).
- Restrictionist: Sovereignty, rule of law, preserving Anglo-European founding institutions, social cohesion, wage protection for working class. Emphasizes legal pathways over chaos, and successful historical models requiring selection + assimilation.
- Empirical reality: Benefits are real but unevenly distributed (gains to employers/consumers, costs to taxpayers/low-skilled workers). Rapid, low-skilled inflows strain the welfare state and trust more than selective ones. European parallels (Sweden, France, UK post-mass migration) show amplified issues with integration failures.
America has always absorbed foreigners, but volume, speed, legality, skill/education levels, and policy (amnesty incentives, birthright citizenship, weak enforcement) determine outcomes. Current trends favor transformation over continuity. Policy levers—E-Verify, border security, merit-based reform, English requirements, deportation priorities—could recalibrate without halting immigration. Public will (per polls) leans toward control. Data evolves; outcomes depend on enforcement and immigrant selection.
You didn't write (or probably read) any of this, except the first sentence. It's all AI-generated.
If you're going to rely on AI, you should be clear that that's where the content came from, and provide the sources that are identified.