I think the forerunner to cattle were supposed to be ornery, too, but those Near East ancients had Want To.
I guess there's no way to test it now, but I don't think the aurochs had quite the reputation of the buffalobison when it comes to difficulty.
Why would any Christian American be for Muslim immigration? Christians shouldn’t be promoting and helping spread Islam and the worshiping of false gods. Muslins literally worship a child molester.
I see nothing in the Constitution that prevents Muslims, Atheists, Druids, or anyone else. Back in the 1800s, many Americans wanted Catholics kept out. Does below sound familiar to today?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/when-america-hated-catholics-213177/
Agreed that some Muslims work hard & are good neighbors, but that will apply to virtually any group. The question is what do they bring to the table to improve our country that is unique to them, if diversity truly is a strength. Same goes for the P&L comment – I have presented my take on the specific negatives, what are the positives?
Edit: Are white Christian nationalists immigrating in large numbers or are you talking about US Citizens? Care to expand on what your concerns are, what they might achieve?
I believe the current plan is to bring a total of 7500 legally into the country next year, the vast majority South African. South Africans, of either race, have not proven to be totally accepting of a pluralistic society. I would argue they are primed to become White Christian Nationalists. Now, White Nationalists in this country tend toward claiming Christian, but I wouldn't want White Agnostic Nationalists any more. Nor Black Nationalists, another possible group but much smaller.
Much of this fits why I don't know fundamentalist Muslims work. At the end of the day the American philosophy is it doesn't matter your race, what God you worship (if any), or where you came from. Like the Stripes comment, we are all mutts and have been kicked out of every decent country.
https://www.google.com/www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy40jj71243o
Why would any Christian American be for Muslim immigration? Christians shouldn't be promoting and helping spread Islam and the worshiping of false gods. Muslins literally worship a child molester.
Why would any American of any religion be for it? I’m an atheist but would be ok with members of any other religion immigrating. I’d rather see satanists than Muslims.
Why would any Christian American be for Muslim immigration? Christians shouldn’t be promoting and helping spread Islam and the worshiping of false gods. Muslins literally worship a child molester.
I see nothing in the Constitution that prevents Muslims, Atheists, Druids, or anyone else. Back in the 1800s, many Americans wanted Catholics kept out. Does below sound familiar to today?
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/09/when-america-hated-catholics-213177/
I never said it's illegal and Catholics are Christians that don't worship a false God. Why would you as a Christian want to spread Islam to America is my question?
I never said it’s illegal and Catholics are Christians that don’t worship a false God. Why would you as a Christian want to spread Islam to America is my question?
I believe in freedom, people are free to believe what they want. Freedom is cool, you should consider it sometime.
My point was the Snarls that lived in the 1800s sure thought Catholics worshipped a false God. I have no interest in any religious text for entry. Like that quote, First they came for the Muslims..., .
I never said it’s illegal and Catholics are Christians that don’t worship a false God. Why would you as a Christian want to spread Islam to America is my question?
I believe in freedom, people are free to believe what they want. Freedom is cool, you should consider it sometime.
My point was the Snarls that lived in the 1800s sure thought Catholics worshipped a false God. I have no interest in any religious text for entry. Like that quote, First they came for the Muslims..., .
lol....I was generally curious, but assumed you would post some shit lib gibberish.
@snarlcakes is that what you call freedom?
I think smoking a cigar, drinking a whiskey, and stacking sats while watching IU kick Purdue's ass is freedom.
There's a line somewhere for you, I assume. We wouldn't have let in Nazis after WW 2, right?I never said it’s illegal and Catholics are Christians that don’t worship a false God. Why would you as a Christian want to spread Islam to America is my question?
I believe in freedom, people are free to believe what they want. Freedom is cool, you should consider it sometime.
My point was the Snarls that lived in the 1800s sure thought Catholics worshipped a false God. I have no interest in any religious text for entry. Like that quote, First they came for the Muslims..., .
There's a line somewhere for you, I assume. We wouldn't have let in Nazis after WW 2, right?
Are you saying we didn't? Oh, I see MTIOTF beat me to it. And we will have to define Nazi. I suspect we let in people who in some way voted or joined the Nazi party but were not military.
Generally I am opposed to letting in people who took up arms against the US. But that is "generally" because I am willing to keep South Carolina, Alabama, et al.
I'm aware of Von Braun, et al. I"m saying you wouldn't want to let Nazis in and neither would I. Then or now. Right?There's a line somewhere for you, I assume. We wouldn't have let in Nazis after WW 2, right?
Are you saying we didn't? Oh, I see MTIOTF beat me to it. And we will have to define Nazi. I suspect we let in people who in some way voted or joined the Nazi party but were not military.
Generally I am opposed to letting in people who took up arms against the US. But that is "generally" because I am willing to keep South Carolina, Alabama, et al.
There are plenty of bad ideologies we wouldn't/shouldn't let in. We can't be completely content neutral.
There was a difference between the Nazi POWs and the regular German ones. My grandfather told me about German POWs he worked with in southern Indiana (had a POW camp near where they lived) and had positive things to say about them. I thought it was more that eventually stayed or returned to the US, but (what Google says):There's a line somewhere for you, I assume. We wouldn't have let in Nazis after WW 2, right?
Are you saying we didn't? Oh, I see MTIOTF beat me to it. And we will have to define Nazi. I suspect we let in people who in some way voted or joined the Nazi party but were not military.
Generally I am opposed to letting in people who took up arms against the US. But that is "generally" because I am willing to keep South Carolina, Alabama, et al.
- Post-War Hardship: Germany faced immense destruction, food shortages, and unemployment, making life difficult for returning soldiers. [3, 6, 7, 8]
- Positive Experiences in U.S.: Many POWs worked on farms, experienced kindness from Americans, and saw a better life, fostering a desire to stay. [9, 10, 11]
- Relationships: Some fell in love with American women, leading them to find ways to return and settle permanently, such as one POW whose wife traveled to Italy to marry him before returning to the U.S., notes HistoryNet. [3, 12]
- Escapes: A few hundred escaped, but most were caught; Georg Gärtner famously remained at large for 40 years before surrendering in 1985 and later becoming a citizen. [2, 3, 4, 10]
- Legal Emigration: Around 5,000 former POWs legally immigrated to the U.S. between 1948 and 1960, often after being repatriated. [1, 2]
- Ernst Floeter: A POW who stayed in Michigan, became a photographer, and later a U.S. citizen, known for portraying Uncle Sam in local parades. [5]
- "Mine Enemy" Documentary: Explores the bonds formed between POWs and local families, like the Camlins in South Carolina, as detailed by the Southern Documentary Fund. [13, 14]
I'm aware of Von Braun, et al. I"m saying you wouldn't want to let Nazis in and neither would I. Then or now. Right?
There are plenty of bad ideologies we wouldn't/shouldn't let in. We can't be completely content neutral.
Again, we are going to have to define Nazi. It was pretty much a requirement to join the party to have many professional jobs in Germany. Just because a lawyer, doctor, university professor, was a Nazi does not mean they were a Nazi in the way that would give me much concern.
But yes, there would be problems with having a true believer who proudly served in the Waffen SS, as an example.
Heck, I have no issue with Musk being American but I disagree with him on pretty everything and have concerns about how open minded he is on questions of race.
So we have to do a little vetting.
From the beginning some Americans prioritize freedom to make money above all else, and some prioritize religious freedom or speech. It is who we are.
So if someone ascribes to Nazi philosophy, or ascribes to ISIS philosophy, it is a major problem. But that is different than saying take no one from Germany or no one from Afghanistan. Our forefathers came from a repressive hellhole, read the Declaration, yet they created the US
Completely agree with this. Judge people as individuals. But if a person has an illiberal and undemocratic philosophy, I don't think we should grant them citizenship or residency unless there is a very compelling reason.So if someone ascribes to Nazi philosophy, or ascribes to ISIS philosophy, it is a major problem. But that is different than saying take no one from Germany or no one from Afghanistan. Our forefathers came from a repressive hellhole, read the Declaration, yet they created the US
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