That's shocking which means it needs to be checked, and he didn't link a source, which is another reason to doubt. Anyone can create a meme with accurate or made-up stats. Couldn't find any report on the subject published by DOJ in 2025 but found the one which covers 2008-2021 and the stats shouldn't be much different now. I can find nothing like that in the report.Violent Victimization by Race or Hispanic Origin, 2008–2021 | Bureau of Justice Statistics
Or in this one published by Congress: HHRG-118-JU08-20241217-SD004-U4.pdf
Appears that for violent crimes against White victims, 57 percent are committed by White offenders, 15 percent by Black offenders, and 11 percent by Hispanic. For violent crimes against Black victims, 63 percent are committed by Black offenders, 11 percent by White offenders, and 7 percent by Hispanic. Looks like a 5 percent difference and doesn't line up with the meme numbers which aren't directly in the report that I can find. Maybe you can find something in those reports that translates into those meme stats.
Black on Black violent crime rates are way high. That appears much higher than any of the other combinations.
He did link a source. The only thing you’re worse at than the internet is math.
@dbmhoosier no he had a private practice crim lawyer
Correction: a former public defender. He had no idea how to prep his witnesses or conduct jury selection. A complete disaster of a defense.
What's your point, assuming you've got one? Do you want the conviction to stand or not? If so, why are you arguing ineffective assistance of counsel?
I can't see the replies because I don't have a Twitter account. Looking at that table and the lines he highlighted, I don't see how he got those numbers from it. It doesn't seem to have the data he'd need to do it. Do you? Did he show his work?If you read the thread, he sources the data and goes through the math. He uses the same baseline document as your second link, but it's updated through 2024.
https://twitter.com/kevinnbass/status/2064399058366533992
STFU dipshit. He didn't link a source in the post I saw, and I guarantee I can do math far better than you. Seriously, do not ever reply to me. There's no one I respect less than you on this board.That's shocking which means it needs to be checked, and he didn't link a source, which is another reason to doubt. Anyone can create a meme with accurate or made-up stats. Couldn't find any report on the subject published by DOJ in 2025 but found the one which covers 2008-2021 and the stats shouldn't be much different now. I can find nothing like that in the report.Violent Victimization by Race or Hispanic Origin, 2008–2021 | Bureau of Justice Statistics
Or in this one published by Congress: HHRG-118-JU08-20241217-SD004-U4.pdf
Appears that for violent crimes against White victims, 57 percent are committed by White offenders, 15 percent by Black offenders, and 11 percent by Hispanic. For violent crimes against Black victims, 63 percent are committed by Black offenders, 11 percent by White offenders, and 7 percent by Hispanic. Looks like a 5 percent difference and doesn't line up with the meme numbers which aren't directly in the report that I can find. Maybe you can find something in those reports that translates into those meme stats.
Black on Black violent crime rates are way high. That appears much higher than any of the other combinations.
He did link a source. The only thing you’re worse at than the internet is math.
STFU dipshit. He didn't link a source in the post I saw, and I guarantee I can do math far better than you. Seriously, do not ever reply to me. There's no one I respect less than you on this board.That's shocking which means it needs to be checked, and he didn't link a source, which is another reason to doubt. Anyone can create a meme with accurate or made-up stats. Couldn't find any report on the subject published by DOJ in 2025 but found the one which covers 2008-2021 and the stats shouldn't be much different now. I can find nothing like that in the report.Violent Victimization by Race or Hispanic Origin, 2008–2021 | Bureau of Justice Statistics
Or in this one published by Congress: HHRG-118-JU08-20241217-SD004-U4.pdf
Appears that for violent crimes against White victims, 57 percent are committed by White offenders, 15 percent by Black offenders, and 11 percent by Hispanic. For violent crimes against Black victims, 63 percent are committed by Black offenders, 11 percent by White offenders, and 7 percent by Hispanic. Looks like a 5 percent difference and doesn't line up with the meme numbers which aren't directly in the report that I can find. Maybe you can find something in those reports that translates into those meme stats.
Black on Black violent crime rates are way high. That appears much higher than any of the other combinations.
He did link a source. The only thing you’re worse at than the internet is math.
I’m sorry the irony of the guy railing against Twitter not knowing how to use Twitter was too rich for me to layoff.
You can’t do math at all. Think about the 5% delta you pointed out and why it’s flawed. Does it account for relative population size of whites and blacks?
No it does not. You’re so bad at this.
You're an idiot. I'm serious about that. Just STFU. I was conversing with JDB, a poster deserving of some respect. You deserve none. Go away.STFU dipshit. He didn't link a source in the post I saw, and I guarantee I can do math far better than you. Seriously, do not ever reply to me. There's no one I respect less than you on this board.That's shocking which means it needs to be checked, and he didn't link a source, which is another reason to doubt. Anyone can create a meme with accurate or made-up stats. Couldn't find any report on the subject published by DOJ in 2025 but found the one which covers 2008-2021 and the stats shouldn't be much different now. I can find nothing like that in the report.Violent Victimization by Race or Hispanic Origin, 2008–2021 | Bureau of Justice Statistics
Or in this one published by Congress: HHRG-118-JU08-20241217-SD004-U4.pdf
Appears that for violent crimes against White victims, 57 percent are committed by White offenders, 15 percent by Black offenders, and 11 percent by Hispanic. For violent crimes against Black victims, 63 percent are committed by Black offenders, 11 percent by White offenders, and 7 percent by Hispanic. Looks like a 5 percent difference and doesn't line up with the meme numbers which aren't directly in the report that I can find. Maybe you can find something in those reports that translates into those meme stats.
Black on Black violent crime rates are way high. That appears much higher than any of the other combinations.
He did link a source. The only thing you’re worse at than the internet is math.
I’m sorry the irony of the guy railing against Twitter not knowing how to use Twitter was too rich for me to layoff.
You can’t do math at all. Think about the 5% delta you pointed out and why it’s flawed. Does it account for relative population size of whites and blacks?
No it does not. You’re so bad at this.
@aloha-hoosier did it account for the differing overall violent crime rates of the two populations? No it did not.
Dipshit, I didn't say it did. STFU and do not reply to my posts.@aloha-hoosier did it account for the differing overall violent crime rates of the two populations? No it did not.
Dipshit, I didn't say it did.@aloha-hoosier did it account for the differing overall violent crime rates of the two populations? No it did not.
Yet you offered your analysis as somehow debunking the post anyway…..
Interesting.
I can't see the replies because I don't have a Twitter account. Looking at that table and the lines he highlighted, I don't see how he got those numbers from it. It doesn't seem to have the data he'd need to do it. Do you? Did he show his work?
From ChatGPT:
According to the BJS victimization estimates cited, the annual rate of violent victimizations of White victims by Black offenders was substantially higher than the annual rate of violent victimizations of Black victims by White offenders during the period measured. Using population denominators, the ratio is roughly 46-to-1.
From Grok (can read the X thread):
He calculates 45.6 and notes he rounded to ~50 in the main claim (while the original Mark Perry post used 46×). This is a reasonable presentation choice—the difference between 46× and 50× is negligible given the scale. The core disparity is enormous either way.
These figures come directly from:
- Table 11 (population, age 12+ noninstitutionalized): Black non-Hispanic = 35,012,630; White non-Hispanic = 170,855,150.
- Table 13 (violent incidents by perceived race of victim and offender): Black offender / White victim = 536,120; White offender / Black victim = 57,370.
Both tables use victims’ perceptions of offender race (standard for NCVS). The data cover rape/sexual assault, robbery, and aggravated/simple assault (excludes homicide). The † symbols indicate statistical significance at 95% confidence where noted.
Context on the Thread’s Interpretation and Limitations Section
Kevin Bass walks through the source tables clearly and then addresses common objections in follow-up posts. His points on limitations are reasonable and data-grounded:
- Victim perception of offender race: He acknowledges this but notes it is unlikely to explain a 45–50× gap (misidentification would have to be massive and systematically biased in one direction). He also points out that the pattern aligns with other datasets (e.g., arrest records, homicide data).
- Homicides excluded: Correct. Homicides are ~0.1% of violent crime; including them would not materially change the ratios. His back-of-the-envelope FBI-based homicide ratio (~22×) is directionally consistent and still very large.
- “More White targets available” / population adjustment: He correctly calculates that simply dividing the ratio by the relative population sizes (~4.88× more Whites) yields ~9.3×. He then argues this adjustment is imperfect because of residential segregation and the insularity of many Black communities/criminal networks—Black offenders may actually have less proportional exposure to White victims than raw population shares suggest. This is a substantive methodological point; the raw per-offender-group rate he presents is a legitimate descriptive statistic.
- Other adjustments (wealth, etc.): He notes these are possible but would require modeling assumptions and moves on, preferring to show the unadjusted data.
The thread is transparent about sourcing, shows the tables, performs the division correctly, and engages the main critiques without hand-waving. Minor presentational choices (rounding 45.6 to 50, or the original post’s 46×) do not affect the conclusion that the disparity is very large.
Bottom line: The calculations are arithmetically accurate and faithfully reflect the BJS tables cited. The interpretive discussion is engaged and acknowledges real limitations while defending the raw per-capita presentation.
@dbmhoosier no he had a private practice crim lawyer
Correction: a former public defender. He had no idea how to prep his witnesses or conduct jury selection. A complete disaster of a defense.
Didn't he stab the guy in front of like a thousand witnesses? What brilliant defense did the lawyer miss on?
"Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against other blacks." Forty-five percent of the victims of violent crime by blacks are white folks, 43 percent are black, 10 percent are Hispanic;
Blacks are seven times as likely as people of other races to commit murder, eight times more likely to commit robbery and three times more likely to use a gun in a crime;
Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit violent crime against a white person than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery";
Black-on-white rape is 115 times more common than the reverse.
What do these statistics tell us? A message the Post will not report. The real repository of racism in America - manifest in violent interracial assault, rape and murder - is to be found not in the white community, but the African-American community. In almost all interracial attacks, whites are the victims, not the victimizers."
https://www.ocala.com/story/news/2007/08/27/buchanan-the-color-of-crime-in-the-us/31216140007/
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
@dbmhoosier no he had a private practice crim lawyer
Correction: a former public defender. He had no idea how to prep his witnesses or conduct jury selection. A complete disaster of a defense.
Didn't he stab the guy in front of like a thousand witnesses? What brilliant defense did the lawyer miss on?
Sounds like he blew the jury selection. All white jury in a case like this? Should be an easy appeal, should it not? Granted, we don't know any specifics, but still......
@dbmhoosier no he had a private practice crim lawyer
Correction: a former public defender. He had no idea how to prep his witnesses or conduct jury selection. A complete disaster of a defense.
Didn't he stab the guy in front of like a thousand witnesses? What brilliant defense did the lawyer miss on?
Sounds like he blew the jury selection. All white jury in a case like this? Should be an easy appeal, should it not? Granted, we don't know any specifics, but still......
Not an all white jury.