So…..our old Purdue buddy has certainly caused a culture war. In case you haven’t heard by now he was waived by the Bulls last night for behavior detrimental to the team. This was just after a social media live where he spoke against Pride Night, LGBTQ, called Catholics a fake religion, etc. So he is being hailed by many for being a Christian hero, standing up for his beliefs, and of course, the Bulls defamed for being woke and anti Christian. However, many people have been worried about Jaden for awhile. On a podcast last year he talked about dealing with depression, not feeling loved as a child, and being sexually abused. Last evening after being waived, he did an IG live on a plane ( not private ) where he ranted about Steph Curry, LeBron not being saved, etc. He allegedly was always preaching on the locker room and when reporters asked him about his injuries, he asked them if they were fornicators. He did another post today where he said his wife wasn’t taking his calls and his family thought he was crazy. His mom is long time Notre Dame women’s bball coach. It appears to me he is having mental health issues and is in desperate need of help. He’s going to be on a podcast tonight…
It's not unusual for the mentally disturbed to invoke the Divine.
@hooky Exactly. I think it started at the end of his Detroit run and then escalated quickly.
It's capitalism. Know your role Jaden and shut the fuck up.@zeke4ahs what did he actually say? I see the headlines and overall story, but can't find the specifics of what he said.
How bad was it? Would it have been enough for a star player, not a bench player, to get waived, cut or suspended? I don't watch the NBA and had forgotten about him altogether. My guess is if Jokic, Wemby, SGA or Doncic said the same thing, the circumstances would be different.
I hope you said the same to Kaepernick.
If he was either a star player or a Moslem he’d still be on the team…
@jdb How silly. They aren’t close to the same. And I don’t think Kaepernick was mentally ill. No comparison whatsoever.
@oneeyedundertaker Dumb. He’d still be mentally ill.
What’s dumb is you thinking they are mutually exclusive…
Of course. The difference is Kap had a lot of gas left in his tank. He could have made a good team even better. Not a bad team good but still had some gas. Their were a few teams at the time that I thought were so dumb for not taking a flyer on him. But those owners thought he would hurt their brand. So be it.It's capitalism. Know your role Jaden and shut the fuck up.@zeke4ahs what did he actually say? I see the headlines and overall story, but can't find the specifics of what he said.
How bad was it? Would it have been enough for a star player, not a bench player, to get waived, cut or suspended? I don't watch the NBA and had forgotten about him altogether. My guess is if Jokic, Wemby, SGA or Doncic said the same thing, the circumstances would be different.
I hope you said the same to Kaepernick.
@unclemark no they think they are the deity. Big difference. Jaden admitted to being in trouble emotionally. He says Jesus saved him from it.
While I regarded God as a tyrant I thought my sin a trifle; But when I knew Him to be my Father, then I mourned that I could ever have kicked against Him. When I thought God was hard, I found it easy to sin; but when I found God so kind, so good, so overflowing with compassion, I smote upon my breast to think that I could ever have rebelled against One who loved me so, and sought my good.” C. H. Spurgeon
@jdb How silly. They aren’t close to the same. And I don’t think Kaepernick was mentally ill. No comparison whatsoever.
they are absolutely comparable, you just view one as wrong and one as right based on your views. Thats inconsistency at best and hypocrisy at worst.
you could be right about the mental illness, but remember your stance on it (kicking Ivey to the curb) when someone argues for mental illnesses assistance.
FWIW, I have no issue with the Ivey decision and don’t really feel for his mental challenges.
So you're OK with dismissing the player because of a mental illness?@oneeyedundertaker Dumb. He’d still be mentally ill.
Huh? Ivey is 24 and was the 5th pick in the draft just a few years ago. Just last year, he avg. 17.9 pts a game, 4 assists, and shot over 40% from 3.Of course. The difference is Kap had a lot of gas left in his tank. He could have made a good team even better. Not a bad team good but still had some gas. Their were a few teams at the time that I thought were so dumb for not taking a flyer on him. But those owners thought he would hurt their brand. So be it.It's capitalism. Know your role Jaden and shut the fuck up.@zeke4ahs what did he actually say? I see the headlines and overall story, but can't find the specifics of what he said.
How bad was it? Would it have been enough for a star player, not a bench player, to get waived, cut or suspended? I don't watch the NBA and had forgotten about him altogether. My guess is if Jokic, Wemby, SGA or Doncic said the same thing, the circumstances would be different.
I hope you said the same to Kaepernick.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iveyja01.html
Kaepernick was 29 when he stopped playing. His QBR had a downward trend ever since his second year, he had an injury problem, and was completely mediocre at the end.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14001/colin-kaepernick
In other words, Ivey has much more gas left in his tank athletically.
Huh? Ivey is 24 and was the 5th pick in the draft just a few years ago. Just last year, he avg. 17.9 pts a game, 4 assists, and shot over 40% from 3.Of course. The difference is Kap had a lot of gas left in his tank. He could have made a good team even better. Not a bad team good but still had some gas. Their were a few teams at the time that I thought were so dumb for not taking a flyer on him. But those owners thought he would hurt their brand. So be it.It's capitalism. Know your role Jaden and shut the fuck up.@zeke4ahs what did he actually say? I see the headlines and overall story, but can't find the specifics of what he said.
How bad was it? Would it have been enough for a star player, not a bench player, to get waived, cut or suspended? I don't watch the NBA and had forgotten about him altogether. My guess is if Jokic, Wemby, SGA or Doncic said the same thing, the circumstances would be different.
I hope you said the same to Kaepernick.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iveyja01.html
Kaepernick was 29 when he stopped playing. His QBR had a downward trend ever since his second year, he had an injury problem, and was completely mediocre at the end.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14001/colin-kaepernick
In other words, Ivey has much more gas left in his tank athletically.
Not to mention, he relied upon his speed and athleticism, which usually decline quickly post-30 years of age.
One whose contract was about to expire and has the financial means to get help.So you're OK with dismissing the player because of a mental illness?@oneeyedundertaker Dumb. He’d still be mentally ill.
you're not accounting for the broken fibula Ivey sustained last year. It's not healing properly at all. That's a devastating injury for any basketball player and especially is for a player like Ivey.Huh? Ivey is 24 and was the 5th pick in the draft just a few years ago. Just last year, he avg. 17.9 pts a game, 4 assists, and shot over 40% from 3.Of course. The difference is Kap had a lot of gas left in his tank. He could have made a good team even better. Not a bad team good but still had some gas. Their were a few teams at the time that I thought were so dumb for not taking a flyer on him. But those owners thought he would hurt their brand. So be it.It's capitalism. Know your role Jaden and shut the fuck up.@zeke4ahs what did he actually say? I see the headlines and overall story, but can't find the specifics of what he said.
How bad was it? Would it have been enough for a star player, not a bench player, to get waived, cut or suspended? I don't watch the NBA and had forgotten about him altogether. My guess is if Jokic, Wemby, SGA or Doncic said the same thing, the circumstances would be different.
I hope you said the same to Kaepernick.
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/i/iveyja01.html
Kaepernick was 29 when he stopped playing. His QBR had a downward trend ever since his second year, he had an injury problem, and was completely mediocre at the end.
https://www.espn.com/nfl/player/stats/_/id/14001/colin-kaepernick
In other words, Ivey has much more gas left in his tank athletically.