Some interesting thoughts from a Frenchman.
https://twitter.com/brivael/status/2110072284740288767
Original post was quoted in this one.
Maybe... but I doubt it. We're less than 2 years removed from American voters essentially voting against many of the things this Frenchie is warning about. And while TVs, and some of the other things are definitely cheaper... phones certainly aren't, other technology based services arent... I get the overall point, though. And I'm sure there are some things to keep an eye on, and be concerned about.
But again, less than 2 years ago there was a "red wave". Which was a vote against some of the things he's warning about. And what's looking like an impending "blue wave", here in a few weeks, is being driven by unpopular decisions by this administration, costs rising across the board, etc...
The only trends I see is that we're in a whiplash cycle, where our electorate is largely voting against things, rather than for things. I don't think we're headed in any particular direction, as a country. We're constantly turning and avoiding, and going against things.
Maybe... but I doubt it. We're less than 2 years removed from American voters essentially voting against many of the things this Frenchie is warning about. And while TVs, and some of the other things are definitely cheaper... phones certainly aren't, other technology based services arent... I get the overall point, though. And I'm sure there are some things to keep an eye on, and be concerned about.
But again, less than 2 years ago there was a "red wave". Which was a vote against some of the things he's warning about. And what's looking like an impending "blue wave", here in a few weeks, is being driven by unpopular decisions by this administration, costs rising across the board, etc...
The only trends I see is that we're in a whiplash cycle, where our electorate is largely voting against things, rather than for things. I don't think we're headed in any particular direction, as a country. We're constantly turning and avoiding, and going against things.
I mostly agree, particularly with your last paragraph. I'd just offer a brief amendment: "we're constantly turning and avoiding, doing everything we can not to deal with actual issues". The whiplash is real, and the primary construct of two political parties is killing this country.
As a response to a perceived conservative Bush, we get a very liberal Obama. In response to those eight years, we get Trump (and btw, there were several congressional flips during those runs). Biden was supposed to be a moderate response, but he ran a very liberal administration, much more liberal than his historical record and prior comments. Then we get Trump 2.0. In response, the Dems are poised to run extreme liberals like Gavin, AOC, Harris, etc.
Some interesting thoughts from a Frenchman.
https://twitter.com/brivael/status/2110072284740288767
Original post was quoted in this one.
I am not sure. I'll answer after 26 and 28 elections. If we swing back to Democrats then yes we're on a similar path. If the GOP wins then no.
@jdb Europe has more than 2 parties in most of their countries and they're even worse off then us. I think more political parties leads to more liberal policies. I'm open to suggestions why that wouldn't be the case in the U.S.?
@jdb Europe has more than 2 parties in most of their countries and they're even worse off then us. I think more political parties leads to more liberal policies. I'm open to suggestions why that wouldn't be the case in the U.S.?
If you want to avoid the extremes, then we need ranked voting in every state. As is, everyone will vote for their extreme over the other option.
Right now no one would ever risk voting for a 3rd party because they don't want their last choice to win.
Obama and Biden were hardly extreme liberals. They got painted that way by the propaganda coming out of fox news and conservative media because they wanted to sway voters to their side.
Same reason conservatives throw out words like socialism, woke, etc. Because they know those boogeyman words work to scare people from the other side.
@hurryinghoosiers no you're just a total moron immune to facts. a shill of the lowest variety. if you were smart it would be one thing but you're so fing stupid you actually just hurt your party because it evidences just how stupid democrats are every time you post. biden was exceptionally liberal. that's why 88 percent or whatever it was of counties in the us turned more red. i can list the ways but it's of no moment as you'll slither off
@jdb Europe has more than 2 parties in most of their countries and they're even worse off then us. I think more political parties leads to more liberal policies. I'm open to suggestions why that wouldn't be the case in the U.S.?
If you want to avoid the extremes, then we need ranked voting in every state. As is, everyone will vote for their extreme over the other option.
Right now no one would ever risk voting for a 3rd party because they don't want their last choice to win.
Trump isn't extreme. He's a moderate. And you just posted that Obama and Biden weren't extreme.
@jdb Europe has more than 2 parties in most of their countries and they're even worse off then us. I think more political parties leads to more liberal policies. I'm open to suggestions why that wouldn't be the case in the U.S.?
If you want to avoid the extremes, then we need ranked voting in every state. As is, everyone will vote for their extreme over the other option.
Right now no one would ever risk voting for a 3rd party because they don't want their last choice to win.
Trump isn't extreme. He's a moderate. And you just posted that Obama and Biden weren't extreme.
Trump's policies are all over the place. Maybe not extreme on the political scale but more similar to if a schizo was in charge of pulling the levers. He's also completely corrupt.
Obama and Biden weren't extreme but obviously are seen that way by people on the right. My point was that there is no way to get past the dems vs pubs stranglehold on the country without something like ranked voting and viable moderate party.
@hurryinghoosiers Biden was extreme. You just don’t want to own it. Either bc you’re a dumb fuck or trying the Jedi mind trick that it didn’t happen. I’ll go with the former
@jdb Europe has more than 2 parties in most of their countries and they're even worse off then us. I think more political parties leads to more liberal policies. I'm open to suggestions why that wouldn't be the case in the U.S.?
If you want to avoid the extremes, then we need ranked voting in every state. As is, everyone will vote for their extreme over the other option.
Right now no one would ever risk voting for a 3rd party because they don't want their last choice to win.
Trump isn't extreme. He's a moderate. And you just posted that Obama and Biden weren't extreme.
Trump's policies are all over the place. Maybe not extreme on the political scale but more similar to if a schizo was in charge of pulling the levers. He's also completely corrupt.
Obama and Biden weren't extreme but obviously are seen that way by people on the right. My point was that there is no way to get past the dems vs pubs stranglehold on the country without something like ranked voting and viable moderate party.
I gotcha, but my point is "moderates" don't win because very few people like their policies.
The single positive and long-lasting legacy of Trump will be the revitalization of the pro-American electorate writ large (to include even a swath of liberals).
It is in the best long-term interests of our nation to improve the welfare of our needy citizens but we won’t sacrifice capitalism. Democrats rarely hold the requisite power for even two years. Even if they managed to screw things up, we’d rebound and fix it.
Interpreting a red wave as anything other than a bunch of people pissed off at inflation, without really understanding why or how inflation occurred or who was to "blame," is a mistake, I think.Maybe... but I doubt it. We're less than 2 years removed from American voters essentially voting against many of the things this Frenchie is warning about. And while TVs, and some of the other things are definitely cheaper... phones certainly aren't, other technology based services arent... I get the overall point, though. And I'm sure there are some things to keep an eye on, and be concerned about.
But again, less than 2 years ago there was a "red wave". Which was a vote against some of the things he's warning about. And what's looking like an impending "blue wave", here in a few weeks, is being driven by unpopular decisions by this administration, costs rising across the board, etc...
The only trends I see is that we're in a whiplash cycle, where our electorate is largely voting against things, rather than for things. I don't think we're headed in any particular direction, as a country. We're constantly turning and avoiding, and going against things.
Same reason conservatives throw out words like socialism, woke, etc.
Words like socialism and woke aren’t throw-away words. The political differences are not just left vs right. In general terms, progressives/ liberals report more depression, more anxiety, more paranoia, and less life satisfaction than conservatives. That reflects how they govern— thinking that government is the antidote to all these feelings.