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Posted by: @boogie

How is Iran a threat again?

And to whom?

How many federal government elected officials hold dual Israel/US Citizenship again?

Why?

 

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 1:18 pm
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Posted by: @twenty

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

There are reports that the "Supreme Leader" is now dead but not confirmed. Will it be "next man up" from the religious leaders or will something new happen in Iran?

Who is Iran’s Supreme Leader Khamenei and why is he a possible target? | Israel-Iran conflict News | Al Jazeera

 

I think it's somewhat irrelevant. There is no head of the snake in Iran. Killing Khamenei doesn't change much of anything on the ground. That's not the way their system was built. 

 

I think that's the most likely outcome, but it would be good if it was something else. It's also not certain he's dead. Reports are mixed.

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 1:24 pm
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Posted : 02/28/2026 1:34 pm
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Shooter
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Fascists start wars to further their power lust.


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Posted : 02/28/2026 1:38 pm
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

I think that's the most likely outcome, but it would be good if it was something else. It's also not certain he's dead. Reports are mixed.

This was three hours ago, nothing reported since.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-supreme-leader-khamenei-give-speech-within-minutes-after-us-israeli-2026-02-28/

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:06 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

I think that's the most likely outcome, but it would be good if it was something else. It's also not certain he's dead. Reports are mixed.

This was three hours ago, nothing reported since.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/irans-supreme-leader-khamenei-give-speech-within-minutes-after-us-israeli-2026-02-28/

 

Got the daughter and son in law.

https://twitter.com/i/status/2027807366318522404

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:11 pm
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Posted by: @boogie

How is Iran a threat again?

Rumors are that Iran TV was going to run an ad that made fun of Trump.

 


 
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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:13 pm
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Posted by: @shooter

Fascists start wars to further their power lust.


GIF

In fascist ideology, war is viewed as a necessary, rejuvenating, and "redemptive" force that forges national unity, tests strength, and expands the state's territory and influence. It is a central tool for achieving national self-sufficiency, eliminating perceived internal and external threats, and proving the "supremacy" of a particular nation or race.  

 

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:29 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @shooter

Fascists start wars to further their power lust.


GIF

In fascist ideology, war is viewed as a necessary, rejuvenating, and "redemptive" force that forges national unity, tests strength, and expands the state's territory and influence. It is a central tool for achieving national self-sufficiency, eliminating perceived internal and external threats, and proving the "supremacy" of a particular nation or race.  

 

 

I am going to give QParker a pitch out over the plate, since 1980 how does the description not fit the US? I am sure his answer and yours may greatly differ. 

 

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:34 pm
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Helluva thing to wake up to this morning.

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Looks like we're now focused on finding and destroying launchers in the western part of Iran after all of the missiles they've let loose.  Of course, after all those counterstrikes, Iran now wants a timeout to continue negotiations. 

Still not sure what I'm hearing.  Regime change, but we don't want a power vacuum.  That's after targeting every military leader and high level gov officials.  That narrative seems counterintuitive to me.  How do you change the regime without a power vacuum after wiping out the regime?


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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:40 pm
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @shooter

Fascists start wars to further their power lust.


GIF

In fascist ideology, war is viewed as a necessary, rejuvenating, and "redemptive" force that forges national unity, tests strength, and expands the state's territory and influence. It is a central tool for achieving national self-sufficiency, eliminating perceived internal and external threats, and proving the "supremacy" of a particular nation or race.  

 

 

I am going to give QParker a pitch out over the plate, since 1980 how does the description not fit the US? I am sure his answer and yours may greatly differ. 

 

 

So Trump's view on foreign policy and the use of force is consistent with US administrations since 1980?

OK. 

As to your challenge, name a President since 1980 who has talked about the necessity of war in the abstract, along with the rejuvenating and redemptive power of all war and how the U.S. people need to prove it's supremacy through the forcible domination of another nation or race.  I'll hang up and listen.  

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 2:54 pm
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@bradstevens do you have to openly discuss it as rejuvenating, or just view it that way? I argue the second. But if you want such an idea, the parade last year. 

Trump's view given Greenland is more extensive. Threatening force on an ally? Can you name any other president to do that?

 

I am not criticizing Trump for Iran, I don't know the whys yet. But have attacked them twice, Venezuela once, threatened Greenland and Cuba. It seems more in one year than Biden. 

 

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 3:01 pm
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@bradstevens do you have to openly discuss it as rejuvenating, or just view it that way? I argue the second. But if you want such an idea, the parade last year. 

Trump's view given Greenland is more extensive. Threatening force on an ally? Can you name any other president to do that?

 

I am not criticizing Trump for Iran, I don't know the whys yet. But have attacked them twice, Venezuela once, threatened Greenland and Cuba. It seems more in one year than Biden. 

 

 

Criticize away at Trump. He's a fascist because he held a parade, though?  I don't believe you believe that for one second. Shooter might. 

There is a monumental difference between criticizing him and repeatedly calling him a Nazi and fascist, though. People do that who are either lazy and/or stupid or are doing so for political motives. Aloha has spent years attacking Trump and I can't recall him beating this drum.  

In addition to being ridiculous as applied to Trump, though, as I've argued before, I think it's a bad idea to minimize or muddy the waters on what fascists and Nazis actually did and believed. It also kills all rational discussion about Trump or the wisdom, legality, etc. of his policies.  

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 3:18 pm
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Bibi making it sound like Ayatollah is dead. 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 3:30 pm
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Posted by: @qparker

@twenty 

More blood for the warmongers.

The world needs regime change...

Weren't you a big Trumper?

 


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Posted : 02/28/2026 3:32 pm
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