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@co-hoosier yes, and we cannot afford to have a million of those weapons lying around.

There are times pinpoint accuracy matters. There are times though we are trying to hit a $300,000 system with a $2.5 million weapon.  There are hardened targets, or urban targets where we fear collateral damage where every inch matters. But I cannot imagine a scenario that every missile strike to date has needed that accuracy. Trump has said we have a lot of old weapons we can still use. We should have already been using them.

A near miss takes out a mobile launcher. We should save the good stuff for the targets that justify the use.

 

Older munitions require using planes and pilots. Much more vulnerability than firing off surface to surface missiles from outside of Iran than going into their airspace repeatedly. 

 

I'm confused by this discussion. I thought the only munitions we were actually short on were defensive ones, like interceptors. Are we running short on offensive munitions, too?

 

 

Yes, major depletions in the modern offensive surface to surface missiles. 

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/us-has-used-virtually-all-its-long-range-precision-missiles-during-iran-war-2026-08-04/

 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2026 8:13 pm
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@goat 

Naive.

If you don’t think the Mulluh’s pay attention to every word uttered by every Democrat you are hopelessly naive.  I’m sure they have dedicated AI and intel people combing every Democrat word.  They not only use that to delay, but also  know what is in it for them to delay, what they need to say, and how long they need to do it.  


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Posted : 08/10/2026 8:21 pm
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@co-hoosier Not everyone has the inexplicable disdain for Democrats you display. Not even the mullahs.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 8:26 pm
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@twenty @goat i don't understand any of it.  admittedly i have zero base knowledge and i know we're prone to incessant trump bluster but the representations made are that we are always locked and loaded, we spend a trillion a year on the military, and again a skirmish of just this size depletes our most useful/appropriate weapons that quickly?  that seems illogical to me.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 8:32 pm
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@goat 

maybe not, but there are more of us every day, including Democrats like Carville, Maher, Fetterman.  


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Posted : 08/10/2026 8:33 pm
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@goat yes. We are running very short on strike missiles like Tomahawk and ATACMS.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 8:47 pm
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Posted by: @goat

@co-hoosier Not everyone has the inexplicable disdain for Democrats you display. Not even the mullahs.

The mullahs love the Dems.  Useful idiots.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 9:26 pm
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@co-hoosier You seem to misunderstand the meaning of the word "us." All of the three you mentioned have serious problems - reasonable ones - with the current Democratic party, but none of them display the absolute borderline psychotic and irrational disdain for the party you do. Your rants about the Democrats are so unhinged that I sometimes find it difficult not to be offended by your statements.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 9:37 pm
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Posted by: @goat

@co-hoosier You seem to misunderstand the meaning of the word "us." All of the three you mentioned have serious problems - reasonable ones - with the current Democratic party, but none of them display the absolute borderline psychotic and irrational disdain for the party you do. Your rants about the Democrats are so unhinged that I sometimes find it difficult not to be offended by your statements.

Not that I can speak for CoH, but a disdain, or even hatred, for someone that wants to take what you have, what you want your children to have in both possessions & way of life, & turn it into something you would find deplorable is not irrational.

 


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Posted : 08/10/2026 9:46 pm
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@oneeyedundertaker The fact that is what you think the Democrats want is, in fact, irrational.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 10:11 pm
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@oneeyedundertaker The fact that is what you think the Democrats want is, in fact, irrational.

That is the stated goal, that’s what was started by the Biden admin, & that’s what recent elections have shown us. You’re in denial…

 


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Posted : 08/10/2026 10:14 pm
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@goat 

There is nothing irrational, psychotic or abnormal about it. Republicans and conservatives report better mental health than Democrats. I don’t think it has always been this way.  But it has become systemic in Democratic ideology.  

Studies published in PLOS ONE suggest that a conservative worldview—often emphasizing personal agency, religious community, and meritocracy—can act as a psychological buffer against systemic anxiety. Liberal worldviews are often highly attuned to structural injustices, climate change, and systemic inequalities, which naturally elevates daily stress and worry.” [1, 2, 3, 4]


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Posted : 08/10/2026 10:24 pm
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Posted by: @goat

@oneeyedundertaker The fact that is what you think the Democrats want is, in fact, irrational.

That is the stated goal, that’s what was started by the Biden admin, & that’s what recent elections have shown us. You’re in denial…

 

It's only stated in your fevered imagination.

 


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Posted : 08/10/2026 10:29 pm
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@co-hoosier I'm a Democrat. Do you think my goal is to destroy America?


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Posted : 08/10/2026 10:29 pm
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@goat 

no. 


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