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dbmhoosier
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Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

https://twitter.com/i/status/2057976081844465982

And the response to this was to completely capitulate to the regime.  The way this went down is indefensible and if the deal that is supposedly being kicked around is the real deal, then Trump and his whole National Security team should be excoriated for gross incompetence.  We threw away so much for this attack and are now shrugging our shoulders and giving a better deal than Obama gave them.

His second term has been a shit show.

 

You're clearly the type of person who takes a road trip, realizes he's driving in the wrong direction, and never turns around.

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 6:44 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

https://twitter.com/i/status/2057976081844465982

And the response to this was to completely capitulate to the regime.  The way this went down is indefensible and if the deal that is supposedly being kicked around is the real deal, then Trump and his whole National Security team should be excoriated for gross incompetence.  We threw away so much for this attack and are now shrugging our shoulders and giving a better deal than Obama gave them.

His second term has been a shit show.

 

Where you been? Everything good in your world?  

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 6:44 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @unclemark

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Ha. I don't remember the exact prompts, but later I did ask it if it was just giving me the answers it thought I wanted to hear, and it admitted that was exactly what it was doing.

Some time ago Brad asked ChatGPT why I was such an asshole. He got the answer he was looking for then, too.

Not really. I fought with it and tried to get it to call you a nice person.

It just would not comply.  

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 6:46 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

https://twitter.com/i/status/2057976081844465982

And the response to this was to completely capitulate to the regime.  The way this went down is indefensible and if the deal that is supposedly being kicked around is the real deal, then Trump and his whole National Security team should be excoriated for gross incompetence.  We threw away so much for this attack and are now shrugging our shoulders and giving a better deal than Obama gave them.

His second term has been a shit show.

 

You're clearly the type of person who takes a road trip, realizes he's driving in the wrong direction, and never turns around.

 

I am the type of person who looks at a map, uses GPS, listens to friends who are saying the road is out up the ways and you might want to turn around.  Trump was the type who ignored everyone, told his friends and neighbors they were dumb assholes, drove his car off the cliff, and now wants credit for knowing how to call a truck to drag it out of the ravine.

If Barack Obama had done this you would (rightly) be flipping your wig right now. He burned up munitions that take years to replace, absorbed billions of dollars in losses to equipment and bases, blew off most of NATO, and he is (allegedly) going to freeze billions of dollars to an even more hardline regime than the one he killed, give them joint oversight of the straight of Hormuz, and he doesn't even have a half measure nuclear deal in place, just a wink and a nod to talk about it later.  And oh yeah, apparently we are moving forces out of Iran's area...whatever that means. This is literally a more expensive and worse deal than the JCPOA.

People died for this dip-shittery.  We are in a worse position than before he started.  Provide a defense for it other than, "Hey, he burned down the whole house but at least he had the wherewithal to pull out the garden hose to keep the ashes from spreading."  Cool, good for you Donald, but maybe you should have had the foresight to not set off a bunch of fireworks in the f---ing kitchen when so many people were telling you this wasn't a great idea.

Unbelievable incompetence. Indefensible stupidity. 

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 6:56 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

https://twitter.com/i/status/2057976081844465982

And the response to this was to completely capitulate to the regime.  The way this went down is indefensible and if the deal that is supposedly being kicked around is the real deal, then Trump and his whole National Security team should be excoriated for gross incompetence.  We threw away so much for this attack and are now shrugging our shoulders and giving a better deal than Obama gave them.

His second term has been a shit show.

 

Where you been? Everything good in your world?  

 

Been around.  Just busy.  Everything is...decent on my end.  Can't complain.  How have you been?  Still keeping these dudes in line? 

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 6:58 pm
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@iucrazy2 are we removing enriched uranium from Iran?  Whatever that means.  And yes he’s been terrible


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Posted : 05/23/2026 6:59 pm
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@iucrazy2 are we removing enriched uranium from Iran?  Whatever that means.  And yes he’s been terrible

It was my understanding that the nuclear stuff was set aside to be discussed later (if you give any credence to the leaks).  Even if we take some of the uranium, they can acquire and enrich more.

I am no Democrat (far from it) but I expect some competence from the GOP.  Foreign policy has been a disaster this term.

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:05 pm
dbmhoosier
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He got dogwalked by Netanyahu, Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin, etc and everyone knows it. He's finally realized that and is getting us out.  Take the win.


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:13 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

He got dogwalked by Netanyahu, Lindsey Graham, Mark Levin, etc and everyone knows it. He's finally realized that and is getting us out.  Take the win.

It isn't a win. It is a massive loss.

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:16 pm
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Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

https://twitter.com/i/status/2057976081844465982

And the response to this was to completely capitulate to the regime.  The way this went down is indefensible and if the deal that is supposedly being kicked around is the real deal, then Trump and his whole National Security team should be excoriated for gross incompetence.  We threw away so much for this attack and are now shrugging our shoulders and giving a better deal than Obama gave them.

His second term has been a shit show.

 

Where you been? Everything good in your world?  

 

Been around.  Just busy.  Everything is...decent on my end.  Can't complain.  How have you been?  Still keeping these dudes in line? 

 

Good. Daughter had her HS graduation last night. Hard to fathom.  Off to UIUC in the fall.  Work life is picking up.  

Re Iran and judging whatever happens, I think the #1 thing is the nukes.  If Iran gets a nuke (with an Islamic fundamentalist regime), we lose.  If we keep them from getting one, depending on the cost, we "win." 

I wonder if we bankrupt ourselves making sure all these rogue regimes don't go nuclear. Then China will have to do it.  It sucks. It might be the best option.  I don't think anyone really knows the right answer. 

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:27 pm
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Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @bar-down

@iucrazy2 are we removing enriched uranium from Iran?  Whatever that means.  And yes he’s been terrible

It was my understanding that the nuclear stuff was set aside to be discussed later (if you give any credence to the leaks).  Even if we take some of the uranium, they can acquire and enrich more.

I am no Democrat (far from it) but I expect some competence from the GOP.  Foreign policy has been a disaster this term.

 

I'm on the opposite end of the spectrum. I think his foreign policy has been excellent.  Assuming the war does end and doesn't drag on and on and on.

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:38 pm
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Posted by: @goat
she was just giving me the answers she thought I wanted to hear
Goat, I think you’ve found a keeper… 😉

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:48 pm
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@iucrazy2

Trump should have quit while he was ahead—one day after the initial decapitation.  


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:54 pm
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Posted by: @iucrazy2

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

https://twitter.com/i/status/2057976081844465982

And the response to this was to completely capitulate to the regime.  The way this went down is indefensible and if the deal that is supposedly being kicked around is the real deal, then Trump and his whole National Security team should be excoriated for gross incompetence.  We threw away so much for this attack and are now shrugging our shoulders and giving a better deal than Obama gave them.

His second term has been a shit show.

 

 

total, abject, surrender

 


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Posted : 05/23/2026 7:55 pm
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So... I'm reading status quo ante bellum except in addition, we are unfreezing funds and paying them reparations? This can't possibly be true.


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