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@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 


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Posted : 07/20/2026 8:42 pm
BradStevens
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@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/20/2026 8:52 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

Fucking Kommie.


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:02 pm
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@bradstevens well we’ve gone from one million to 250k electing the same people over the last 75 years. Downtown is vacant.  Shootings every night.  Schools are shut.    They’ll take it down to wasteland I guess 🫠


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:04 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 

Virtually no one disagrees with this.  The disagreement lies in classifying who is downtrodden vs who is choosing to fail.  I am happy to help, & regularly choose to help people that truly need it.  I’m not interested is parting with one penny to help the majority of those that are currently getting it.

 


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:07 pm
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@bradstevens it is but it’s deeper than that. So many of these parents, single parents, are in survival mode.  How do you increase parental involvement when you work a 9-5 then do gig work all night to keep the electricity on.

I realize this, but my point is that we have to identify the correct causes of poor performance--the schools being free isn't one of them. (Nor, by the way, is "racism" in education or the existence of honors classes.) 

Once we have some sort of agreement on that, we can then move to look for solutions.  

 

Let's be honest though. Racism is at least a plausible, logical reason for the failure of some students. Free education is not. Even if they are both proven to be wrong, they are not equal. One of them actually makes sense.

 


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:15 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 

Virtually no one disagrees with this.  The disagreement lies in classifying who is downtrodden vs who is choosing to fail.  I am happy to help, & regularly choose to help people that truly need it.  I’m not interested is parting with one penny to help the majority of those that are currently getting it.

 

You are, in effect, disagreeing with it if you just happen to always dismiss the downtrodden as "choosing to fail."

 


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:17 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 

Virtually no one disagrees with this.  The disagreement lies in classifying who is downtrodden vs who is choosing to fail.  I am happy to help, & regularly choose to help people that truly need it.  I’m not interested is parting with one penny to help the majority of those that are currently getting it.

 

You are, in effect, disagreeing with it if you just happen to always dismiss the downtrodden as "choosing to fail."

 

Please re-read, you mistakenly inserted “always” into my post…unless you intentionally mischaracterized it.🤔

 


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:22 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @bradstevens

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@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 

Virtually no one disagrees with this.  The disagreement lies in classifying who is downtrodden vs who is choosing to fail.  I am happy to help, & regularly choose to help people that truly need it.  I’m not interested is parting with one penny to help the majority of those that are currently getting it.

 

You are, in effect, disagreeing with it if you just happen to always dismiss the downtrodden as "choosing to fail."

 

Please re-read, you mistakenly inserted “always” into my post…unless you intentionally mischaracterized it.🤔

 

I'm not saying you personally are doing it right now. I'm saying your explanation falls short when someone defaults to it every time, which many do.

 


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Posted : 07/20/2026 9:44 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens it is but it’s deeper than that. So many of these parents, single parents, are in survival mode.  How do you increase parental involvement when you work a 9-5 then do gig work all night to keep the electricity on.

I realize this, but my point is that we have to identify the correct causes of poor performance--the schools being free isn't one of them. (Nor, by the way, is "racism" in education or the existence of honors classes.) 

Once we have some sort of agreement on that, we can then move to look for solutions.  

 

Let's be honest though. Racism is at least a plausible, logical reason for the failure of some students. Free education is not. Even if they are both proven to be wrong, they are not equal. One of them actually makes sense.

 

I guess I understand what you're saying but in inner city America of 2026? I don't even think it makes sense anymore.

I'd guess a vanishing small number of those teachers and administrators are in any way anti-black or anti-latino racists.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/20/2026 10:10 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @unclemark

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@bradstevens it is but it’s deeper than that. So many of these parents, single parents, are in survival mode.  How do you increase parental involvement when you work a 9-5 then do gig work all night to keep the electricity on.

Don't forget, after you get home, you suddenly have to worry even about the electricity, because your last delivery was some asshole who ordered crab legs from red lobster, and then fifteen minutes after you delivered it, he edited his tip down to zero because they didn't give him enough butter.

 

You hit a rough patch, Goat?

 

I'd rather be homeless than DoorDash.

 

 

When you are in a home where your wife and daughters have all managed to synch up for the dreaded monthly, it's a great excuse to get away for a couple hours.

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 5:32 am
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 

 

You're a good guy Brad.

 

https://twitter.com/Polymarket/status/2079298045498343726

 

What proportion of this figure would you say are truly downtrodden? How do you suggest we go about splicing? It wasn't so long ago Trump added some very modest work requirements to SNAP and Medicaid and Democrats flew off the fucking reservation. 

 


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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens there’s so many levels to it all I think it’s almost hopeless.  And we keep electing the same stupid people in these cities. Our socialist wearing defund the police alderman president is posting how excited she is to go to cori bush’s rally tomorrow. These are the people overseeing these failing communities. Hamster. Wheel.  

im so tired of it. I was trying to figure out reparations that would make a difference.  It’s moot. We don’t have the money 

I'm not sure we are a nation or a civilization I think is worth having if we don't make an effort to help the downtrodden. Even if it doesn't succeed, in the end.  

 

 

You're a good guy Brad.

 

https://twitter.com/Polymarket/status/2079298045498343726

 

What proportion of this figure would you say are truly downtrodden? How do you suggest we go about splicing? It wasn't so long ago Trump added some very modest work requirements to SNAP and Medicaid and Democrats flew off the fucking reservation. 

 

I'm willing to admit we need to change standards on the unemployed, etc.

I'm not willing to give up on educating a bunch of kids from poor or minority or downtrodden circumstances because we feel its hopeless.  I understand the feeling and its possible a big % of kids can't be taught certain things--math past arithmetic, or maybe biology at an AP level.  I'm willing to entertain that and the possibility of shifting to a different kind of education for different people.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/21/2026 5:10 pm
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@bulk-vh aunt taught in the city public school system in the hood for 30 plus years.  Your day in the life is to the minute perfect


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@bulk-vh Murt doesn't have any Aunts.  

 


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Posted : 07/21/2026 5:25 pm
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@snarlcakes she had a kid.  i had an old lionel train set.  like the big old school legit ones.  i got it from my grandfather.  was awesome.  so she had a kid and wanted to know if she could borrow it for her kid. i said of course.  hauled all of it over there.  buildings.  trees.  and this amazing train set.  she sold it.


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