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BradStevens
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @boogie

https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/status/2093342850591392045?s=20

 

This could go bad.

Why would you think more competition, breaking up pretty much monopolies, and lowering food  prices is a bad thing for consumers?

@bradstevens this is your friendly reminder that monopolies don't exist in free markets.  Only governments can cause a monopoly.  

Standard Oil?

 


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Posted : 08/29/2026 9:59 am
dbmhoosier
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Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Next executive order - the President decrees that Canada Geese are to be called Donald Ducks from now on.

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2093714077533004238

 


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Posted : 08/29/2026 11:51 am
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @aloha-hoosier

Next executive order - the President decrees that Canada Geese are to be called Donald Ducks from now on.

https://twitter.com/EricLDaugh/status/2093714077533004238

 

The President and your community college twitter twit are a bit slow.

 


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Posted : 08/29/2026 12:49 pm
hooky
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Posted by: @unclemark

Consumers should expect their food is from a clean facility and is safe. Bypassing USDA regulations and inspections isn't going to help. I'm sure the lawyers will love it, though. What's a bad case of food poisoning worth, I wonder.

Like the recent lettuce issues?

People can buy from wherever they'd like and aren't being forced to buy from anyone. If somebody sells garbage that makes people sick, then they're not going to be selling garbage very long.  Let the market sort it out.


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Posted : 08/29/2026 4:39 pm
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UncleMark
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Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @unclemark

Consumers should expect their food is from a clean facility and is safe. Bypassing USDA regulations and inspections isn't going to help. I'm sure the lawyers will love it, though. What's a bad case of food poisoning worth, I wonder.

Like the recent lettuce issues?

People can buy from wherever they'd like and aren't being forced to buy from anyone. If somebody sells garbage that makes people sick, then they're not going to be selling garbage very long.  Let the market sort it out.

I'm not against free market solutions, but "Let 'em get sick" seems a bit harsh.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/29/2026 6:06 pm
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Pentagon Pete, the least qualified SecDef in my lifetime, cannot be removed from his office soon enough.

Hegseth blocks promotions of 4 Army officers with ties to sacked generals

Bing is black and should be a shoe in for promotion to flag because he's an outstanding successful officer no matter his skin color, but I'd bet it won't happen under this SecDef. 


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Posted : 08/29/2026 6:49 pm
hooky
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @unclemark

Consumers should expect their food is from a clean facility and is safe. Bypassing USDA regulations and inspections isn't going to help. I'm sure the lawyers will love it, though. What's a bad case of food poisoning worth, I wonder.

Like the recent lettuce issues?

People can buy from wherever they'd like and aren't being forced to buy from anyone. If somebody sells garbage that makes people sick, then they're not going to be selling garbage very long.  Let the market sort it out.

I'm not against free market solutions, but "Let 'em get sick" seems a bit harsh.

 

Why do you think it's let em get sick? 

Honestly, the number of guys who can do their own slaughter/butcher/pack operation is really small.  You'll probably see something like a marketing co-op solution pop up, where multiple producers throw in together way more often than a single producer.  You'd have to be pretty big to make a run at it on your own.

Edit to clarify - It's still federal law that meat sold for human consumption must be federally inspected.  He can't change that. 


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Posted : 08/29/2026 8:36 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @boogie

https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/status/2093342850591392045?s=20

 

This could go bad.

Why would you think more competition, breaking up pretty much monopolies, and lowering food  prices is a bad thing for consumers?

@bradstevens this is your friendly reminder that monopolies don't exist in free markets.  Only governments can cause a monopoly.  

Standard Oil?

 

According Grok Standard Oil topped out at 90-95% market share in 1880s.  By 1911 they were down to 65% before they were broken up. 

 


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Posted : 08/29/2026 10:04 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @boogie

https://twitter.com/DanielTurnerPTF/status/2093342850591392045?s=20

 

This could go bad.

Why would you think more competition, breaking up pretty much monopolies, and lowering food  prices is a bad thing for consumers?

@bradstevens this is your friendly reminder that monopolies don't exist in free markets.  Only governments can cause a monopoly.  

Standard Oil?

 

According Grok Standard Oil topped out at 90-95% market share in 1880s.  By 1911 they were down to 65% before they were broken up. 

 

You don't consider 90-95% marketshare a monopoly?

 


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Posted : 08/30/2026 9:31 pm
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@bradstevens if they would have maintained it for decades, probably.  However, it didn't last because competition from the market ate into it.


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Posted : 08/30/2026 9:40 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

@bradstevens if they would have maintained it for decades, probably.  However, it didn't last because competition from the market ate into it.

 

People are so dumb and have no foresight. 

There was a search engine named “Google”.

They had a quasi monopoly on internet search. 

Google search is sucking wind right now because of Anthropic, xAI and Open Ai.

 

“Regulate!” Says the moron when they see a powerful company. Don’t listen to the moron. 

 


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Posted : 08/30/2026 9:59 pm
BradStevens
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @snarlcakes

@bradstevens if they would have maintained it for decades, probably.  However, it didn't last because competition from the market ate into it.

 

People are so dumb and have no foresight. 

There was a search engine named “Google”.

They had a quasi monopoly on internet search. 

Google search is sucking wind right now because of Anthropic, xAI and Open Ai.

 

“Regulate!” Says the moron when they see a powerful company. Don’t listen to the moron. 

 

Not sure Google is a great example because of I don’t know all the regs involved there. 

Pretty sure, though, Standard Oil developed in as close to a free market for that product as we have ever seen in this country. 

But my point is: monopolies can and do occur in free markets. You and snarl seem to be arguing about what to do about it.  Fair arguments, but they don’t detract from the underlying point.  

 


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Posted : 08/31/2026 8:50 am
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Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Why would you think more competition, breaking up pretty much monopolies, and lowering food  prices is a bad thing for consumers?

Consumers should expect their food is from a clean facility and is safe. Bypassing USDA regulations and inspections isn't going to help. I'm sure the lawyers will love it, though. What's a bad case of food poisoning worth, I wonder.

 

Keep eating your carcinogenic, Tyson Foods, crap. 

I’ll get my ribeye 1/4 of the price from the guy who raised it a couple towns away. 

We’ll see who wins. 

 

me too. We try and buy as much meat as we can from local producers. We get from Costco what we can't find locally. They have a great selection of US grass fed, organic meat.  

Still, the local guys(and Costco obviously) have to adhere to FDA standards and are regularly checked by county health inspectors. Both of which Im glad for. 

 


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Posted : 08/31/2026 2:36 pm
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Lol. I honestly don't know shit about data centers. I feel like the last guy on the planet without an opinion on them. I do know though, that of the people I know, my MAGA friends have been the group most vehemently against data centers near the towns.  That all changes in 3.2.1....

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Posted : 08/31/2026 3:13 pm
UncleMark
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Posted by: @mrhighlife

Lol. I honestly don't know shit about data centers. I feel like the last guy on the planet without an opinion on them. I do know though, that of the people I know, my MAGA friends have been the group most vehemently against data centers near the towns.  That all changes in 3.2.1....

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The usual NIMBY shit aside, there are legit concerns about a data center's impact on water and electrical resources. If those can be addressed, then have at it. Also, having local board and council member sign NDAs ahead of time is total bullshit. If nothing else, that practice needs to be outlawed, and anyone signing them should be booted from office. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/31/2026 3:57 pm
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