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More shit from the “Justice” Department. 

https://firstamendmentwatch.org/new-york-times-reporters-are-subpoenaed-after-air-force-one-stories-raising-press-freedom-concerns/


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Topic starter Posted : 07/13/2026 11:15 am
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HurryingHoosiers
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Posted by: @big-ryan

More shit from the “Justice” Department. 

https://firstamendmentwatch.org/new-york-times-reporters-are-subpoenaed-after-air-force-one-stories-raising-press-freedom-concerns/

I shared this in the "Flooding the Zone" thread.  How many freedoms must Trump attack before he loses followers who at least pretend to be patriots?

 


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Posted : 07/13/2026 1:35 pm
hooky
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Wonder if they end up in jail for not divulging their sources.


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Posted : 07/13/2026 3:05 pm
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HurryingHoosiers
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Posted by: @hooky

Wonder if they end up in jail for not divulging their sources.

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Posted : 07/13/2026 3:15 pm
Ohio Guy
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Posted by: @hooky

Wonder if they end up in jail for not divulging their sources.

I actually think that's a good question. The article says the journalists aren't the target of their investigation - the people who leaked classified information are who they're after. I'm obviously not a lawyer - can journalists not reveal sources as some sort of journalistic integrity thing? Something along the lines of client/lawyer, patient/doctor privilege or something like that? 

 


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Posted : 07/13/2026 3:45 pm
Ohio Guy
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Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

I shared this in the "Flooding the Zone" thread.  How many freedoms must Trump attack before he loses followers who at least pretend to be patriots?

 

For most MAGA followers, 'patriotism' has been redefined as loyalty to Trump. If there is any political or legal action taken against these journalists, cheering it on is MAGA patriotic. 


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Posted : 07/13/2026 3:48 pm
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Is simply saying that the new plane lacks at least some of the security features of the old planes, and that's why the switch was made, really leaking national secrets/ classified info?  There is no inside info as to what exactly the vulnerability is or was, which it seems to me would be the classified info.  And it's pretty obvious that, when you switch out the brand new shiny toy, that something is indeed amiss with that new toy. 

This is just more Trump retribution.  Tomorrow he probably files a lawsuit claiming $100 Billion in damages. Then loses the suit months later, while claiming victory.


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Posted : 07/13/2026 4:29 pm
CO. Hoosier
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@ohio-guy 

Exactly right.  There is no attack on the first amendment here.  The reporting suggests a serious crime about presidential security might have been committed.  The DOJ investigates.  The courts will figure this out. That’s how our system works.  


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Posted : 07/13/2026 4:30 pm
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Posted by: @ohio-guy

Posted by: @hooky

Wonder if they end up in jail for not divulging their sources.

I actually think that's a good question. The article says the journalists aren't the target of their investigation - the people who leaked classified information are who they're after. I'm obviously not a lawyer - can journalists not reveal sources as some sort of journalistic integrity thing? Something along the lines of client/lawyer, patient/doctor privilege or something like that? 

 

As a matter of professional integrity, journalists should not reveal confidential sources. However, this does not equate to any sort of privilege recognized by the courts, except in the most limited of ways. Generally, reporters only have whatever protections are afforded them by various shield laws enacted by most states. But, there is no federal shield law.

 


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Posted : 07/13/2026 4:40 pm
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Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Posted by: @hooky

Wonder if they end up in jail for not divulging their sources.

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You don't think that happens?  What am I saying, of course you don't:

Journalists have been imprisoned or faced the threat of incarceration for contempt of court after refusing to reveal their confidential sources to grand juries or prosecutors. In the U.S., reporters generally face these penalties under a patchwork of state laws, as there is no federal shield law. [1, 2]
Notable U.S. journalists who served jail time:
  • Josh Wolf: The freelance blogger and journalist spent over seven months (approx. 226 days) in a federal detention center in 2006, which is believed to be the longest sentence ever served by an American journalist for protecting a source or unpublished materials. [1, 2]
  • Vanessa Leggett: An investigative writer who spent 168 days in a Texas federal prison in 2001 for refusing to surrender confidential research notes to a federal grand jury. [, 2, 3]
  • Judith Miller: The New York Times reporter spent 85 days in jail in 2005 for refusing to disclose the source (Scooter Libby) who leaked the identity of undercover CIA officer Valerie Plame. Time Magazine's Matt Cooper also faced a jail sentence in this case but testified after his source released him from confidentiality. [1, 2]
  • Tim Roche: A reporter for the Stuart News in Florida who served 18 days in jail in 1993 for criminal contempt after refusing to divulge the source of a leaked, sealed court order. [1, 2]
  • Brian Karem: A TV reporter who served 13 days in a Texas jail in 1990 after refusing to reveal the identities of people who arranged a jailhouse interview. [1]
  • Peter Bridge: A reporter for the Newark Evening News who spent 21 days in a New Jersey jail in 1972 after refusing to reveal the sources for a story on a bribery case. [1]

 


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Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

Posted by: @hooky

Wonder if they end up in jail for not divulging their sources.

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The grown-ups are having a conversation, sweetheart.  Go play quietly in your room and mommy will bake cookies for you later.

 


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Posted : 07/13/2026 9:02 pm
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Grand jury subpoenas  for reporters’ sources have typically been a last resort. For Trump’s “Justice” Department, though, they’re a first step. 

Trump “Justice” can claim the reporters aren’t the targets, but this is just another instance of the administration attempting to bully and intimidate the press. 

https://www.cnn.com/business/media/trumps-latest-leak-hunt-against-the-new-york-times-is-deeply-personal?iid=cnn_buildContentRecirc_end_recirc&recs_exp=up-next-article-end&tenant_id=related.en


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