@larsiu no one is reading all that stupid shit. keep it simple. 3 percent of those sentenced to state prison had drug possession as their most serious offense. NCADA. they have drug courts now, alt sentencing, new legislation all over decriminalizing drug offenses and reducing sentencing etc.
incidentally ncada was one of my agencies ages ago. they were above a tanning shop and the ED would watch hot chicks walk in and out all day. "try doing this sober." he'd say lmao
@mcm666 large language models in the hands of those who can’t write an effective prompt and aren’t discerning enough to understand the output and if it’s even accurate, can be dangerous.
This guy thinks people are sitting in Federal prison for possession. Not trafficking, not possession with intent to distribute, simple possession.
Because the AI following his prompt told him something close to what he wanted to hear and satisfied his confirmation bias.
@carramrod it's bowl. not a smart guy. are there leftovers, holdovers, etc. of course. but that's not how possession cases are being prosecuted today. you get picked up first time possession without any intent/amount etc to distribute your chance of prison is zero. hell that's why they have drug cts etc. and yes AI is being used as a substitute for thinking.
@unclemark it's the left. not supporting cops. forcing climate shit. welfare state. socialism. open borders. the left has to fix itself. anyone with a functioning brain recognizes it is the left that is batshit crazy.
somehow. the stupidest politicians ever ot live have taken over the left. from biden to harris to pritzker to stay at home pete to newsom to aoc to the new socialist in nyc.
trump is a one off. an anomaly. people want to be democrats. people have wanted to be democrats for decades. i don't want to be a republican. i never like bush and jr and reagan or any of them. i was a dem.
support workers. support teachers. support cops. support kids. not trannie kids. not criminals. greta thumbergs. and the dems will never lose an election. most of us want to be old school dems. this yabbut equally bad blah blah blah is all bullshit. trump is of no moment. the last election was a referendum on the left. Fix. Your. Party. And people will come back, including me.
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then you started shoving it in our faces!!! wear this mask!!! outdoor soccer is canceled!! we hate cops!!! drive this car that doesn't make a noise. let's chop off your middle schoolers cock!. i mean wtf!!!!!!!! you people went nuts! we're not cavemen. we're not misogynists. it's just too fing much.... what is wrong with you people?!
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Think you used enough links there, Butch?Even of those doing time for just pleading to a drug offense, I'm guessing they have a history of violent behavior. Prosecutors know this. Most want to put bad guys away, not first time, non violent people. It might seem unfair, but if you have two people picked up for possession, and one has no history at all and the other has a violent past, a good prosecutor is going to plea the first guy out and go hard at the second one to make the streets safer.you just wanted to use canard.@mrhighlife an impressive number of canards in one post.
8.5% of the U.S. Prison population is in private facilities.
90% of state and federal inmates are violent or repeat offenders. Drug possession makes up less than 5% and how many of those are plea deals?
This myth of the masses of people in prison for “non-violent” drug offenses needs to die.
8.5% is almost 100,000 people. 60% POC. Needs to be 0%. And I wasn't only referring to private prisons. More people in local/state/federal prisons means they need more government funding. I know you love the government spending more. Lord knows I do. But it is an area where I wish we could lower that. I think I know a way to lower that budget by 5%.
Your 90% number includes repeat drug offenders. And 38% of your 5%!! are blacks despite only being 14% of the population and using drugs a similar rates to other races including whites.
Stop. You're attached to a narrative. How was I know to know you were referencing your dislike for tax payer funded prisons when you criticized our "for-profit" prison system?
There is no "correct" number of incarcerated and no correct demographics. The correct prison population size and demographics are determined by the number of convicted criminals and the corresponding demographics.
The myth of non-violent offenders has been studied for some time now and has no merit. I don't believe you are capable of having your mind change when confronted with evidence that disproves your beliefs. Even so, I'll leave you with this.
https://www.brookings.edu/articles/the-numbers-dont-lie-its-the-hard-core-doing-hard-time/
What about mere drug offenders behind bars? While federal convictions for drug-related crimes skyrocketed between 1980 and 1993, at the state level, the number of persons incarcerated for violent crimes grew at 1.3 times the growth in imprisoned drug offenders. Moreover, as a recent study funded in part by the National Institute of Justice correctly observes, “the label ‘drug offender’ is a misnomer.” As the study notes, the term implies “a degree of specialization not supported [by a body of research] on individual offending patterns,” which shows plainly that drug offenders “commonly commit other types of crime, most notably robbery, burglary, and violent offenses.”
For example, in a forthcoming Wisconsin Policy Research Institute (WPRI) study of the complete adult and juvenile criminal histories of prisoners from Milwaukee, WPRI analyst George Mitchell and I find that 91 percent of these urban criminals had one or more convictions for a violent crime. First-time drug offenders were less than 2 percent of the population. The imprisoned drug offenders had multiple arrests, bouts on probation, and adult and juvenile crimes, including auto theft, burglary, robbery, retail theft, domestic violence, sexual assault, drunk driving, jumping bail and, of course, drug dealing too.
False
The statement that "even those doing time for just pleading to a drug offense have a history of violent behavior" is not supported by the available evidence. Multiple comprehensive studies demonstrate that a significant portion of drug offenders, particularly those with drug-only convictions, do not have extensive violent criminal histories.
Key Evidence from Federal and State Data
According to the U.S. Sentencing Commission data, 45.2% of individuals sentenced for federal drug trafficking had little or no prior criminal history (Criminal History Category I). More specifically, over one-quarter (26 percent) of federal drug offenders have no prior criminal history at all. Among those in the lowest criminal history category, about 24% had no criminal history points whatsoever.urban+2
Research from the Urban Institute analyzing federal drug offenders found that over three-quarters of all individuals in federal prison for drug offenses have no serious history of violence before the current offense. The breakdown shows that 56% have no violent history at all, while nearly 22% have only minor histories of violence such as simple assault.urban
State Prison Data Reveals Similar Patterns
The Bureau of Justice Statistics' comprehensive analysis of nonviolent offenders exiting state prisons found that about a third had a history of arrests for violent crimes. However, this means approximately two-thirds of nonviolent drug offenders did not have violent criminal backgrounds. The Open Society Foundations reported that 58 percent of drug prisoners—an estimated 124,885 inmates—have no history of violence or high level drug activity.bjs.ojp+1
Distinction Between Drug Types and Criminal Backgrounds
The data reveals important variations by drug type and offense level. A 1994 Department of Justice analysis found that drug offenders with no criminal history amounted to 28.2 percent of all drug offenders in the prison system. Federal data shows that among drug offenders, powder cocaine (41%) and marijuana (36%) offenders were the most likely to have no criminal history points.ojp+1
The Role of Plea Bargaining
While over 97% of criminal cases end in plea bargains, this high rate doesn't necessarily indicate prior violent behavior. The prevalence of plea bargaining has increased dramatically due to prosecutorial power and mandatory minimum sentences, leading many defendants—including those without violent histories—to accept plea deals rather than risk harsher sentences at trial.npr
Important Caveats
However, the data also shows concerning patterns. A Florida sheriffs' analysis claimed that 85% of drug offender inmates committed a forcible felony, burglary, or both prior to their current prison sentence. Similarly, some studies suggest that 95% of nonviolent releasees had an arrest history, though arrests don't necessarily indicate convictions or violent behavior.flsheriffs+1
The evidence clearly demonstrates that a substantial portion of individuals imprisoned for drug offenses—particularly simple possession or low-level trafficking—do not have histories of violent behavior. While some drug offenders do have violent backgrounds, characterizing all or even most drug offenders as having violent histories is not supported by the comprehensive federal and state data available.
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- https://www.npr.org/2023/02/22/1158356619/plea-bargains-criminal-cases-justice
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listen to me you stupid fcking lefties. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!! There was a time we were all woke! ten thousand maniacs. in my tribe. unplugged. our time in eden. stockton gala days. indigo girls. innocence mission yellow. the smiths. suedehead i'm soooooooooooo sorry. sarah at her piano with no accompaniment singing possession right into our fing hearts on mtv as we watch puck lose his shit and fall off his skateboard!!!! sure we were finger bangin chicks but we LOVED THAT SHIT!!!!!!!!!!!!
then you started shoving it in our faces!!! wear this mask!!! outdoor soccer is canceled!! we hate cops!!! drive this car that doesn't make a noise. let's chop off your middle schoolers cock!. i mean wtf!!!!!!!! you people went nuts! we're not cavemen. we're not misogynists. it's just too fing much.... what is wrong with you people?!
WHERE IS MARK MILTON?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Bruh, stop droppin' bars and start poppin' bars
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
Think you used enough links there, Butch?
FFS, did you really have to quote the entirety of that menagerie?
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
Still going with this? Where were you reading this? Will you question your sources?Sooo. It's becoming clearer that this guy is a Groyper. I had to look that up but it explains why he seems to be all over the place in ideology.
