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So it seems Trump has lost some big battles in recent weeks: Fed independence, birthright citizenship, tariffs, nationalizing the federal guard, etc. with votes against him from his own nominees.


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Posted : 06/30/2026 11:17 am
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Also, it appears NPR was wrong and retracted the Alito retirement story https://www.npr.org/2026/06/30/nx-s1-4622951/samuel-alito-retires


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Posted : 06/30/2026 11:17 am
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you’re absolutely correct on the distinction re intended purpose. But you’re still using a LEGAL consumer product to commit a crime.  If a guy uses his Range Rover to run over people at a parade you shouldn’t be able to sue Land Rover.  Why does the intended use matter. There’s no way a gun manufacturer can predict who will use their gun for a crime in the same way there’s no way Land Rover can. That’s why the logic has dictated finding liability in merchandising practices via marketing etc

if this is the case for liability, even ignoring foreseeability etc, you might as well skip the pretense and declare guns illegal.

Because cars are liable, they put in attempts to make them safer. My Kia was recalled and fixed because people were stealing Souls and causing death and injury.

If gun manufacturers were liable every new gun sold today would have a palm reader. That would have an impact on stolen guns used in crimes, much like the Kias. 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 11:25 am
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Posted by: @bar-down

you’re absolutely correct on the distinction re intended purpose. But you’re still using a LEGAL consumer product to commit a crime.  If a guy uses his Range Rover to run over people at a parade you shouldn’t be able to sue Land Rover.  Why does the intended use matter. There’s no way a gun manufacturer can predict who will use their gun for a crime in the same way there’s no way Land Rover can. That’s why the logic has dictated finding liability in merchandising practices via marketing etc

if this is the case for liability, even ignoring foreseeability etc, you might as well skip the pretense and declare guns illegal.

Because cars are liable, they put in attempts to make them safer. My Kia was recalled and fixed because people were stealing Souls and causing death and injury.

If gun manufacturers were liable every new gun sold today would have a palm reader. That would have an impact on stolen guns used in crimes, much like the Kias. 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 11:25 am
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you’re absolutely correct on the distinction re intended purpose. But you’re still using a LEGAL consumer product to commit a crime.  If a guy uses his Range Rover to run over people at a parade you shouldn’t be able to sue Land Rover.  Why does the intended use matter. There’s no way a gun manufacturer can predict who will use their gun for a crime in the same way there’s no way Land Rover can. That’s why the logic has dictated finding liability in merchandising practices via marketing etc

if this is the case for liability, even ignoring foreseeability etc, you might as well skip the pretense and declare guns illegal.

Because cars are liable, they put in attempts to make them safer. My Kia was recalled and fixed because people were stealing Souls and causing death and injury.

If gun manufacturers were liable every new gun sold today would have a palm reader. That would have an impact on stolen guns used in crimes, much like the Kias. 


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Posted : 06/30/2026 11:27 am
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So it seems Trump has lost some big battles in recent weeks: Fed independence, birthright citizenship, tariffs, nationalizing the federal guard, etc. with votes against him from his own nominees.

 

We're not playing the same game. One party nominates Sotomayor's and KBJ's. The other, Barrett's, Roberts and Kavanaugh's. Republican's reluctance to to wield the court as a political weapon will cost them dearly one day. 

 


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Posted by: @jdb

So it seems Trump has lost some big battles in recent weeks: Fed independence, birthright citizenship, tariffs, nationalizing the federal guard, etc. with votes against him from his own nominees.

 

We're not playing the same game. One party nominates Sotomayor's and KBJ's. The other, Barrett's, Roberts and Kavanaugh's. Republican's reluctance to to wield the court as a political weapon will cost them dearly one day. 

 


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