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UncleMark
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

@unclemark, I’m tired of your stupid shit. You are one of the reasons this board doesn’t see much quality or activity. why don’t you stay away? 

Can you be more specific?


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Posted : 02/14/2026 9:55 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

I’m talking about elementary school, 4th grade.  Look it up. Mississippi hasn’t been at this long enough for all grades to show the change.  That’s why I said some measure.  

Yes I literally looked at the data in question.

here is a link:

 

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=MAT&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3


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Topic starter Posted : 02/14/2026 10:39 pm
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Posted by: @jdb

Posted by: @co-hoosier

@arthur-dent 

The problems with diversity are obvious.  Anything that diminishes whiteness and white culture is diversity and is good, unless you are white and stand against those challenges.  Then diversity is bad.  The mindset that tells me Jefferson sleeping with a slave is important history will be the same mindset that bashes the United States while competing for and being finically supported by the United States at the Olympics.   As Director Patel shows, the damage diversity causes has little to do with skin color.  It has to do with attitudes and beliefs.  We either stand on the shoulders of the great, mostly white, mostly male, people who brought the United States to this point, and continue ; or we bash our heritage and where we now are because mostly whites and mostly males brought us to this point and change course. 

Today’s democrats don’t hide the fact that their new  election coalition will consist of POC’s and all the so-called marginalized people of not only the USA, but of the world who manage to come here under the ruse of asylum or as refugees.  The democrats are building a citizenship base that I, and millions like me, have little in common with.  And I haven’t changed.  The  Democrats have done a 180 on many important issues for no reason other than building this new coalition.  

Our divisions are becoming less about principles and more about who are oppressed and who are not.  Making America Great Again is a counterweight to that effort.  The America was Never Great crowd is succeeding and pushing us towards the abyss the the UK now suffers with.  

 

 

Diversity's challenges aren't a racial problem, as much as they are a cultural one.

 

True, the issue is the optics. Islam is incompatible with the West. I think that white Albanian and Chechnyan Islamists are just as distasteful as their Middle Eastern and South Asian cousins. There just tend to be more of the latter which puts a "minority" face on the discrimination.  And I don't pussy foot around the notion that it is discrimination being sought here.  I don't think that is a dirty word.  We should have discriminating taste around who we choose to be our friends and neighbors.  Christian Africans are more desirable than Muslims.  People from high trust societies like Japan and Korea are more desirable than people from low trust societies like India.  That isn't to say that you put a complete moratorium on all people from those places, there are many fine Arabs and Indians in this country, but you should be extremely selective in how many you let in.

The problem arises when you let too many in and then allow them to form enclaves in your country.  Indians hire Indians.  Muslims become insular around their mosques.  Then they are not forced to actually assimilate into our culture and mores.  You cannot have that.  And the stupid thing about the US as CoH has pointed out, is that now we not only does not force them to integrate, we bad mouth the very things that lead to them wanting to come here in the first place.  We downgrade our own culture and history and genuflect to their inferior ones.  That is a recipe for disaster.

Teddy Roosevelt had it right.  When people talk about past immigrants building this country it was under a much different paradigm than what we currently have.  He says it better than I could:

"In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

 


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Posted : 02/15/2026 11:14 am
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Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

The little pussy @jdb took the time to dislike over 40 posts of mine.

Well ... they are all the same.... Democrats good Republicans bad.  I think it's funny that you went to the trouble to see who disliked your posts.  You must lead a boring life.

 


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Posted : 02/15/2026 2:29 pm
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UncleMark
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Posted by: @npt

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

The little pussy @jdb took the time to dislike over 40 posts of mine.

Well ... they are all the same.... Democrats good Republicans bad.  I think it's funny that you went to the trouble to see who disliked your posts.  You must lead a boring life.

To be fair, if I opened up the site to 40 notifications, I'd want to know wtf was going on.

 


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Posted : 02/15/2026 3:51 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @npt

Posted by: @hurryinghoosiers

The little pussy @jdb took the time to dislike over 40 posts of mine.

Well ... they are all the same.... Democrats good Republicans bad.  I think it's funny that you went to the trouble to see who disliked your posts.  You must lead a boring life.

To be fair, if I opened up the site to 40 notifications, I'd want to know wtf was going on.

 

Little hickory is mad because I disliked a few of his posts and started his retribution tirade. He conveniently omitted that fact. Then, he DM'd me since he was butthurt over e-points.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 02/15/2026 10:40 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

@arthur-dent 

This looks like a rant, not an argument.  I probably agree with much of your views about the ill-effects of oppression.  We continue to waste human beings today with the crappy education we deliver to many youngsters, especially minority youngsters.

 

But you really haven’t explained why diversity makes us better.  Making things better is not about diversity, it’s about  cultivating and applying the talents we have.  

The Mississippi Miracle ( which has spread to other southern states) I have posted about is a reason for optimism .  Yet “progressive” places like Massachusetts, Minnesota, Washington, and others still lag, and have been overtaken in some measure by Mississippi.  That is because of policy and focus, not because of diversity.  

What weird definition of lag do you use, as has been pointed out by others, Mississippi ain't past Mass.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=MAT&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3

Look at what all diversity has brought. Rock and roll music was created by a Black or a White? Motown was mainly Black or White? 1 in 10 restaurants in America today are Mexican. (source)  We have been through numbers of roofers in America who are immigrants. Same for poultry processing plants. Are you ready to go to work at a poultry processing plant? Maybe work in a hotel (note even Trump thought we should defer booting out hotel workers). Diversity includes bringing in people willing to do jobs the CO Hoosier's of the world won't do. I like having Thai restaurants and others to compete with American meat loaf and mashed potatoes. There is nothing wrong with eliminating groupthink that many of us love. I'll use biology as the best example, a population that has diverse genetic code are more resilient and adaptable. I want our nation to be more resilient and adaptable. Those are positive traits.

That used to be a strength; we were resilient and adapted. Now we are scared and timid, clinging to old ideas. American culture is viewed as weak, bringing on others will destroy it. I don't believe for a minute we are as weak as you seem to think. But I'm not one that thinks I need prepper supplies, gold, and bitcoin because America has one foot in the grave and another on the banana peel. Stop being afraid. 

 

 


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Posted : 02/16/2026 3:54 pm
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Posted by: @arthur-dent

Posted by: @co-hoosier

@arthur-dent 

This looks like a rant, not an argument.  I probably agree with much of your views about the ill-effects of oppression.  We continue to waste human beings today with the crappy education we deliver to many youngsters, especially minority youngsters.

 

But you really haven’t explained why diversity makes us better.  Making things better is not about diversity, it’s about  cultivating and applying the talents we have.  

The Mississippi Miracle ( which has spread to other southern states) I have posted about is a reason for optimism .  Yet “progressive” places like Massachusetts, Minnesota, Washington, and others still lag, and have been overtaken in some measure by Mississippi.  That is because of policy and focus, not because of diversity.  

What weird definition of lag do you use, as has been pointed out by others, Mississippi ain't past Mass.

https://www.nationsreportcard.gov/profiles/stateprofile?sfj=NP&chort=1&sub=MAT&sj=&st=MN&year=2024R3

Look at what all diversity has brought. Rock and roll music was created by a Black or a White? Motown was mainly Black or White? 1 in 10 restaurants in America today are Mexican. (source)  We have been through numbers of roofers in America who are immigrants. Same for poultry processing plants. Are you ready to go to work at a poultry processing plant? Maybe work in a hotel (note even Trump thought we should defer booting out hotel workers). Diversity includes bringing in people willing to do jobs the CO Hoosier's of the world won't do. I like having Thai restaurants and others to compete with American meat loaf and mashed potatoes. There is nothing wrong with eliminating groupthink that many of us love. I'll use biology as the best example, a population that has diverse genetic code are more resilient and adaptable. I want our nation to be more resilient and adaptable. Those are positive traits.

That used to be a strength; we were resilient and adapted. Now we are scared and timid, clinging to old ideas. American culture is viewed as weak, bringing on others will destroy it. I don't believe for a minute we are as weak as you seem to think. But I'm not one that thinks I need prepper supplies, gold, and bitcoin because America has one foot in the grave and another on the banana peel. Stop being afraid. 

 

Trite slop. However impressive for the amount of unoriginal talking points crammed into one paragraph.

COH is right. You’re just ranting. 

Motown and Rock and Roll and Mexican restaurants are evidence we should allow more Muslims into the country in 2026?

 

The leftist mind is extremely cluttered. 

 

 

 


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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:03 pm
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Shooter
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Posted by: @carramrod

you don’t think learning English should be an expectation in coming here?

When my great great grandmother Margaretha emigrated from Germany to Shelby county Indiana in 1871, she didn't learn any English.  Neither did her daughter, my great grandmother Sophia.  Neither did her grand daughter, my grandmother. My grandma was born in 1901 and I have her birth certificate, written in German.  I also have her marriage certificate, from 1920, also in German. Official county documents. The menfolk went to the polls and voted on ballots written in German. Poly linguality was not an issue for the communities with lots of German immigrants, at least until WWII.

Is language assimilation helpful?  yes.  Do non-English speakers cause you unspeakable harm?  I think not.

 


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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:16 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier

...the same mindset that bashes the United States while competing for and being finically supported by the United States at the Olympics.  

Wait, if I am an Olympic athlete and I decide to be critical of the US President and/or some of his policies, while waving a flag I'm proud of, then such speech should be punished? 

Interesting lengths you seem to want to go to, there.

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:21 pm
CO. Hoosier
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@arthur-dent 

https://excelined.org/2025/04/07/massachusetts-naep-scores-tell-a-troubling-story-for-students-who-need-help-most/

https://oxfordeagle.com/2025/01/30/mississippi-4th-graders-no-1-in-the-nation-for-naep-gains-over-time/

Individuals of various backgrounds making go of it is not the product of diversity.  It’s the unplanned product of individual talent, free markets, capitalism, risk taking freedom and more.  I agree with and support all of it.  When diversity becomes a pre-planned self-serving objective problems arise. I see no strength in that.

I spent time working around open hearth furnaces, I don’t need a lecture about dirty jobs.

Stop being afraid of what?  

 

 

 


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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:31 pm
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@shooter 

I didn’t say punished.  


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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:41 pm
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you don’t think learning English should be an expectation in coming here?

When my great great grandmother Margaretha emigrated from Germany to Shelby county Indiana in 1871, she didn't learn any English.  Neither did her daughter, my great grandmother Sophia.  Neither did her grand daughter, my grandmother. My grandma was born in 1901 and I have her birth certificate, written in German.  I also have her marriage certificate, from 1920, also in German. Official county documents. The menfolk went to the polls and voted on ballots written in German. Poly linguality was not an issue for the communities with lots of German immigrants, at least until WWII.

Is language assimilation helpful?  yes.  Do non-English speakers cause you unspeakable harm?  I think not.

 

 

You’re under the misimpression that I care about your purported family history and/ or the supposed practices of Shelby county Indiana in the 19th century.

I assure you, I do not. 

A critical mass of people residing in the U.S. that can’t speak English causes us all harm. 

 


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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:41 pm
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Posted by: @carramrod

You’re under the misimpression that I care about your purported family history and/ or the supposed practices of Shelby county Indiana in the 19th century.

Nothing purported or supposed about it, and my grandmother never lived a single day in the 19th century.

 


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Posted : 02/16/2026 4:47 pm
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@shooter You’re third generation grandmother only spoke German? 

Excuse but I think you’re FOS like the rest of your anecdotes. 


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