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Stollcpa's avatar
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gets a nuke that they won’t use it? 


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Topic starter Posted : 06/23/2026 10:52 am
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N. Korea has them.


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Posted : 06/23/2026 11:24 am
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Posted by: @mommyshine5220

gets a nuke that they won’t use it? 

How can any of us make that determination when we don't know the regime's construct? Historically, I would have said no. But, I have no idea who or what is governing Iran at the moment. 

 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 11:26 am
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Does Israel have Nukes?


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Posted : 06/23/2026 11:43 am
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What good is having a nuke if no one believes you will use it?


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Posted : 06/23/2026 11:53 am
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I don't know the answer the original question, but I do wonder if the actions Trump has taken has made it more or less likely Iran is able to build a nuclear weapon to potentially use it. If the JCPOA had remained in tact would we have been better off long term? 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 12:21 pm
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Posted by: @mommyshine5220

gets a nuke that they won’t use it? 

Maybe, maybe not.  The probability of a nuclear war would increase though.  That's undeniable.  

However, whether they use or not the entire equation in the region would change.  Iran would further develop their military and weapon capabilities and have control over 20% of the world oil.  And at that point there isn't a damn thing the U.S. or anyone could do about it.   Whining about Trump trying to stop Iran's from getting nuclear weapons has been one of the dumber criticisms of him.  

 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 12:24 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @mommyshine5220

gets a nuke that they won’t use it? 

Maybe, maybe not.  The probability of a nuclear war would increase though.  That's undeniable.  

However, whether they use or not the entire equation in the region would change.  Iran would further develop their military and weapon capabilities and have control over 20% of the world oil.  And at that point there isn't a damn thing the U.S. or anyone could do about it.   Whining about Trump trying to stop Iran's from getting nuclear weapons has been one of the dumber criticisms of him.  

 

 snarlcakes you make a good point.

HOWEVER, consider this. Your point offers another reason for the world to switch from fossil energy forces to renewables. This would force Iran toward its massive natural gas reserves, petrochemical manufacturing, and renewable energy.

In addition, Iran's survival would thus depend on industrialization and regional trade instead of military weapons and terrorist proxies.

Finally, think of the benefits to the citizens of Iran, peace and prosperity at last.

 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 1:34 pm
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Posted by: @ohio-guy

I don't know the answer the original question, but I do wonder if the actions Trump has taken has made it more or less likely Iran is able to build a nuclear weapon to potentially use it. If the JCPOA had remained in tact would we have been better off long term? 

The JCPOA was never a long-term solution. Under the terms at the time, Iran would have eventually been back to building a nuke, anyway. The purpose of the JCPOA was just to buy time.

 


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Posted : 06/23/2026 9:49 pm
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I have no idea if they would or not.

 

What I do know is that they really don't need one know.  They know anytime things start going south,  they can close the Strait of Hormuz, wait it out and hurt people economically. 

 

We've really screwed the pooch here.


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Posted : 06/24/2026 3:13 am
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I have no idea if they would or not.

 

What I do know is that they really don't need one know.  They know anytime things start going south,  they can close the Strait of Hormuz, wait it out and hurt people economically. 

 

We've really screwed the pooch here.

You really don’t think they knew closing the Strait was an option? 

If Iran gets a nuke they would hesitate to use it. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 06/24/2026 8:26 am
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@mommyshine5220 stoll!!!!  Yay.  Hope all is well. 


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Posted : 06/24/2026 8:38 am
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Posted by: @mommyshine5220

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I have no idea if they would or not.

 

What I do know is that they really don't need one know.  They know anytime things start going south,  they can close the Strait of Hormuz, wait it out and hurt people economically. 

 

We've really screwed the pooch here.

You really don’t think they knew closing the Strait was an option? 

If Iran gets a nuke they would hesitate to use it. 

 

 

I have no idea if they knew how impactful closing the Strait would be or how much over a barrel they have the world. 

 

I do know they now know they can use it as a really powerful weapon.  

 


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Posted : 06/24/2026 8:41 am
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Posted by: @boogie

I have no idea if they knew how impactful closing the Strait would be or how much over a barrel they have the world. 

 

I do know they now know they can use it as a really powerful weapon.  

 

As far as I know, they hadn't closed it before. I agree with you - if they didn't know the full impact of closing it before, they certainly do now. 


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Posted : 06/24/2026 8:53 am
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @ohio-guy

I don't know the answer the original question, but I do wonder if the actions Trump has taken has made it more or less likely Iran is able to build a nuclear weapon to potentially use it. If the JCPOA had remained in tact would we have been better off long term? 

The JCPOA was never a long-term solution. Under the terms at the time, Iran would have eventually been back to building a nuke, anyway. The purpose of the JCPOA was just to buy time.

IIUC, there were expiration/sunset provisions built in, but those served more as signals for renegotiation than turning Iran loose.

 


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Posted : 06/24/2026 9:10 am
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