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Eppy99
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I apologize if this already exists in a thread.  Your welcome to point me to it.  This has been a topic in the local Indy news.  Lt. Gov, Micah Beckwith said in a town hall meeting detainees do not a have a right to due process in front of a judge.  He drew a comparison to the US response to bombing of Pearl Harbor in WWII.

 

Thoughts?

Sorry as this article is behind the Indy Star pay wall.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/08/micah-beckwith-due-process-immigration-comments-go-viral/85576693007/

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/KCeLD-ePaQY?si=CYdORgJ1pE4e24AN


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Topic starter Posted : 08/09/2025 9:49 am
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Posted by: @eppy99

I apologize if this already exists in a thread.  Your welcome to point me to it.  This has been a topic in the local Indy news.  Lt. Gov, Micah Beckwith said in a town hall meeting detainees do not a have a right to due process in front of a judge.  He drew a comparison to the US response to bombing of Pearl Harbor in WWII.

 

Thoughts?

Sorry as this article is behind the Indy Star pay wall.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/08/micah-beckwith-due-process-immigration-comments-go-viral/85576693007/

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/KCeLD-ePaQY?si=CYdORgJ1pE4e24AN

yes.  that's the part of the problem.  5/14 apply to every person whether citizen or not.  so once here have to deal.  trump seems to have fixed the border but we really need a new vetting system.  tiers.  something.  imagine if we have an aoc for president.  what she'll let twenty million in?  

 


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Posted : 08/09/2025 9:58 am
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UncleMark
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Beckwith is a moron. Luckily, they maneuvered him into a position with no authority or influence and can do no real harm. 


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Posted : 08/09/2025 8:28 pm
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OneEyedUndertaker
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Posted by: @eppy99

I apologize if this already exists in a thread.  Your welcome to point me to it.  This has been a topic in the local Indy news.  Lt. Gov, Micah Beckwith said in a town hall meeting detainees do not a have a right to due process in front of a judge.  He drew a comparison to the US response to bombing of Pearl Harbor in WWII.

 

Thoughts?

Sorry as this article is behind the Indy Star pay wall.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/08/micah-beckwith-due-process-immigration-comments-go-viral/85576693007/

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/KCeLD-ePaQY?si=CYdORgJ1pE4e24AN

Rights are for citizens, the rest can fvck off & get what they get as far as treatment.  If they have no regard for our laws & process of entry, we should have none for how they are handled while here.  It’s like worrying how a burglar is treated after breaking into your house.

 


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Posted : 08/09/2025 8:40 pm
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Posted by: @eppy99

I apologize if this already exists in a thread.  Your welcome to point me to it.  This has been a topic in the local Indy news.  Lt. Gov, Micah Beckwith said in a town hall meeting detainees do not a have a right to due process in front of a judge.  He drew a comparison to the US response to bombing of Pearl Harbor in WWII.

 

Thoughts?

Sorry as this article is behind the Indy Star pay wall.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/08/micah-beckwith-due-process-immigration-comments-go-viral/85576693007/

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/KCeLD-ePaQY?si=CYdORgJ1pE4e24AN

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  Your problem (one of a myriad) is that Micah is Christian Clergy .

  That he and his political supporters outworked and outsmarted the RINO wing of the Indiana Republicans, put in two years of work, and reaped the rewards triggers you.

  The Christians are stirring.

  Past time to take out the trash.

 

 


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Posted : 08/09/2025 9:06 pm
CO. Hoosier
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Posted by: @eppy99

I apologize if this already exists in a thread.  Your welcome to point me to it.  This has been a topic in the local Indy news.  Lt. Gov, Micah Beckwith said in a town hall meeting detainees do not a have a right to due process in front of a judge.  He drew a comparison to the US response to bombing of Pearl Harbor in WWII.

 

Thoughts?

Sorry as this article is behind the Indy Star pay wall.

https://www.indystar.com/story/news/politics/2025/08/08/micah-beckwith-due-process-immigration-comments-go-viral/85576693007/

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/KCeLD-ePaQY?si=CYdORgJ1pE4e24AN

Yes due process is required.  No due process does not require a judge.  Due process is situational and could be satisfied by the ice officer making a determination at the time of contact and after speaking with the subject.  

 


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Posted : 08/09/2025 9:17 pm
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UncleMark
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Posted by: @qparker

That he and his political supporters outworked and outsmarted the RINO wing of the Indiana Republicans, put in two years of work, and reaped the rewards triggers you.

Reaped the the rewards? Lt. Governor? LOL. He's in charge of tourism. Helluva power base to operate from.


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Posted : 08/09/2025 9:38 pm
Eppy99
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@unclemark correct me if I’m wrong but the candidate for Governor in the state of Indiana doesn’t pick his running mate.  I think it’s decided by the state party.  I believe it’s been rumored Braun has never been a fan of Beckwith because of his extreme views


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2025 7:12 am
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Eppy99
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@oneeyedundertaker I understand your POV, but I think your burglar analogy is a poor choice.  Clearly a criminal deserves due process.  Do you not believe in innocent until proven guilty?  And if guilty, clearly not all crimes should have the same sentence.


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2025 7:18 am
Eppy99
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@unclemark As extreme as Beckwith is, it would still scare the shit out of me if he were to run for Governor.  I don’t think you can discount any result from happening.  Trump winning in 2016 should have taught us what is possible.  I would just hope the citizens of Indiana would support a different candidate in the primary.


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2025 7:25 am
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Posted by: @eppy99

@unclemark As extreme as Beckwith is, it would still scare the shit out of me if he were to run for Governor.  I don’t think you can discount any result from happening.  Trump winning in 2016 should have taught us what is possible.  I would just hope the citizens of Indiana would support a different candidate in the primary.

If having a devout Christian as Governor frightens you, DON'T go join the IDF...

 


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Posted : 08/10/2025 10:09 am
OneEyedUndertaker
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Posted by: @eppy99

@oneeyedundertaker I understand your POV, but I think your burglar analogy is a poor choice.  Clearly a criminal deserves due process.  Do you not believe in innocent until proven guilty?  And if guilty, clearly not all crimes should have the same sentence.

Suspected criminals are arrested & detained until trial as part of the legal process.  If found to be here illegally, they gotta go, simple as that.

 


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Posted : 08/10/2025 10:10 am
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@oneeyedundertaker "If found to be here illegally" is due process.


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Posted : 08/10/2025 10:23 am
Eppy99
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@qparker I don’t think you should compare Israel a Jewish state to the United States.  All religions in the US are supposed to be protected.  

But to your point, the far right orthodox extremism equally scares the shit out of me.  It could be just a matter of time before they completely take full control.  The amount of children they’re having far exceeds the non orthodox.  I’m not at all happy about this.

As for the IDF the far right think they’re holier than thou and shouldn’t have to serve.  Only recently has the government forced them to serve which I don’t even think that’s being enforced.


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2025 10:24 am
Eppy99
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@oneeyedundertaker not all criminals are held indefinitely until their trials.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2025 10:29 am
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