Ossoff is very popular with Gen Z. He's mastered social media, and his content on X, TikTok and YouTube gets huge numbers of views. He's the first Senator born in the '80s and has been called the first "online" Senator, although he (wisely) leaves the scrolling to his aides. (PSA: Constant scrolling leads to brain rot, as evidenced on this Forum).
He's the first Senator born in the '80s. He's bulking up (hitting the weight room) and carefully crafting an image that will make him even more appealing to voters. His biggest liability isn't his faith but the fact that, if he runs and wins, Dems likely lose a critical Senate seat.
@ohio-guy i'll take any bets you want. i pick four woke socialists and you can have the field? it'll be fun. i can take harris aoc stay at home pete and newsom. you can have the field. newsom and harris are already getting onthe socialism train. starting the narrative now
I'm not really interested in betting on it, but I don't think either of those four will be the presidential nominee. We've seen what Harris can do in a primary and general election and I don't think Democratic leadership want any part in that anymore. I don't think Newsom can win a general election and the powers that be know that. AOC is just Dennis Kucinich with the advantage of better social media platforms. I could see Pete Buttigeig making things interesting and could even be a VP pick, but unfortunately I think being gay would be a liability in a general election, even in 2028.
Other names to consider are John Ossoff and any number of the Democratic governors we've all mentioned here before. Those people are getting traction, but it's still too early to anoint anyone. I think any of those people would have the potential to win in a landslide.
That said, 2020 is too far off to predict anything worth betting on. It's fun to speculate though.
Agreed about keeping an eye on Ossoff. If he wins his reelection bid, he's a star and immediately in the mix for '28.
I'd also keep an eye on Wes Moore and Josh Shapiro. Mark Kelly, too.
I'm with dbm, there is no way on earth the Democrats are going to run a moderate Jewish guy.
If he wins reelection in Georgia, he's a force to be reckoned with. He has already proven adept at campaign fundraising (he holds a massive cash advantage over his Republican challenger), and he's young, articulate, charismatic and fit. Don't count him out.
What will his answer be if asked about Palestine? If Dems get even a whiff of pro-Israel in his response he’ll be cooked…
Support for Israel's Security & Defense
Right to Self-Defense: Ossoff has repeatedly affirmed Israel's absolute right and obligation to defend its citizens, categorically condemning the October 7, 2023, Hamas attacks as an unpardonable atrocity. He consistently emphasizes that Hamas is a terrorist organization that must be defeated and removed from power in Gaza.
Defensive Military Aid: He supports overall U.S. efforts to fund defensive systems like the Iron Dome and maintain the deterrence capabilities of the Israeli Air Force against threats from regional actors like Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.
@big-ryan the left is pro palestine anti jew anti ice defund cash bail. it's run by lunatic lefties now. he has zero chance. and i'll put any cash anyone wants up in a bet it won't be that dude. he's simply too sane too smart and too "normal.' ga isn't the place. has to be nyc calif or someone overtly woke elsewhere
Buttigieg is gay and polls terrible with black voters. He's not winning. Harris or Newsom is the most the likely candidate with AOC close behind.
What's weird is that the only people I've heard/seen say AOC is a serious presidential candidate are conservatives. And that's not just here. I'm not saying she won't throw her hat in the ring, but I think Republicans/MAGA are using her as a boogeyman to rile up their own base.
@ohio-guy dude i have no idea where you get your "news" but you are the least tuned in person i've ever "met." she's only listed on every poll by every media outlet from the far left to the far right. she's also been teh face of the party for five straight years. no one else comes close. of course she's a candidate if she wants it
@big-ryan the left is pro palestine anti jew anti ice defund cash bail. it's run by lunatic lefties now. he has zero chance. and i'll put any cash anyone wants up in a bet it won't be that dude. he's simply too sane too smart and too "normal.' ga isn't the place. has to be nyc calif or someone overtly woke elsewhere
Another “it isn’t in schools” issue for Dems, @big-ryan take on anti-semitism in the Dem party.
it doesn’t exist>it’s just on the fringe>it doesn’t happen enough to make a difference, when in reality it’s foundational to the party’s leadership & direction. Over & over again they refuse to acknowledge that radicals have control of the party, which the radicals are counting on so they continue to vote for them.
@oneeyedundertaker the constant lefties in bowl and ohio have to be the two least informed guys on the planet about their own party. what i think it is is simply willful ignorance and denial. i mean they arent going closer to the middle they're moving to socialism. look at the locus of the party in nyc. good grief. people need to wake up
@oneeyedundertaker the constant lefties in bowl and ohio have to be the two least informed guys on the planet about their own party. what i think it is is simply willful ignorance and denial. i mean they arent going closer to the middle they're moving to socialism. look at the locus of the party in nyc. good grief. people need to wake up. a georgian jew with an inheritance? no chance.
@oneeyedundertaker the constant lefties in bowl and ohio have to be the two least informed guys on the planet about their own party. what i think it is is simply willful ignorance and denial. i mean they arent going closer to the middle they're moving to socialism. look at the locus of the party in nyc. good grief. people need to wake up. a georgian jew with an inheritance? no chance. it's aoc. harris. newsome. pete. that's it.
Buttigieg is gay and polls terrible with black voters. He's not winning. Harris or Newsom is the most the likely candidate with AOC close behind.
What's weird is that the only people I've heard/seen say AOC is a serious presidential candidate are conservatives. And that's not just here. I'm not saying she won't throw her hat in the ring, but I think Republicans/MAGA are using her as a boogeyman to rile up their own base.
@ohio-guy i'll take any bets you want. i pick four woke socialists and you can have the field? it'll be fun. i can take harris aoc stay at home pete and newsom. you can have the field. newsom and harris are already getting onthe socialism train. starting the narrative now
I'm not really interested in betting on it, but I don't think either of those four will be the presidential nominee. We've seen what Harris can do in a primary and general election and I don't think Democratic leadership want any part in that anymore. I don't think Newsom can win a general election and the powers that be know that. AOC is just Dennis Kucinich with the advantage of better social media platforms. I could see Pete Buttigeig making things interesting and could even be a VP pick, but unfortunately I think being gay would be a liability in a general election, even in 2028.
Other names to consider are John Ossoff and any number of the Democratic governors we've all mentioned here before. Those people are getting traction, but it's still too early to anoint anyone. I think any of those people would have the potential to win in a landslide.
That said, 2020 is too far off to predict anything worth betting on. It's fun to speculate though.
Agreed about keeping an eye on Ossoff. If he wins his reelection bid, he's a star and immediately in the mix for '28.
I'd also keep an eye on Wes Moore and Josh Shapiro. Mark Kelly, too.
I'm with dbm, there is no way on earth the Democrats are going to run a moderate Jewish guy.
If he wins reelection in Georgia, he's a force to be reckoned with. He has already proven adept at campaign fundraising (he holds a massive cash advantage over his Republican challenger), and he's young, articulate, charismatic and fit. Don't count him out.
What will his answer be if asked about Palestine? If Dems get even a whiff of pro-Israel in his response he’ll be cooked…
Support for Israel's Security & Defense
Right to Self-Defense: Ossoff has repeatedly affirmed Israel's absolute right and obligation to defend its citizens, categorically condemning the October 7, 2023, Hamas attacks as an unpardonable atrocity. He consistently emphasizes that Hamas is a terrorist organization that must be defeated and removed from power in Gaza.
Defensive Military Aid: He supports overall U.S. efforts to fund defensive systems like the Iron Dome and maintain the deterrence capabilities of the Israeli Air Force against threats from regional actors like Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.
Now the rest of the story.
In November 2024, Ossoff was among 19 senators who supported resolutions that would have blocked US military aid to Israel during the Gaza war. He has criticized the scope of civilian deaths and suffering in Gaza as unnecessary and "a moral failure".
He stated that the extreme suffering of civilians, including children, in Gaza was a direct result of the policies of Netanyahu's government.
He voted to block certain weapons sales to Israel, citing concerns that Netanyahu's policies created "intolerable" civilian suffering.
He explicitly criticized the Israeli government for allowing weapons to fall under the control of controversial national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.
Like most reasonable people, he recognizes Israel's right to defend itself, but he hasn't hesitated to call out Netanyahu for not giving a shit about civilian lives.
@bar-down Polling related to the next presidential run at this point means relatively nothing. There is a void in Democratic leadership right now and she gets a lot of facetime so most the people who don't pay attention are going to say that about her.
Polling in '26 doesn't necessarily lead to being the nominee in '28. The only political analysts taking an AOC presidential run seriously are on the right side of the political spectrum.
@ohio-guy i'll take any bets you want. i pick four woke socialists and you can have the field? it'll be fun. i can take harris aoc stay at home pete and newsom. you can have the field. newsom and harris are already getting onthe socialism train. starting the narrative now
I'm not really interested in betting on it, but I don't think either of those four will be the presidential nominee. We've seen what Harris can do in a primary and general election and I don't think Democratic leadership want any part in that anymore. I don't think Newsom can win a general election and the powers that be know that. AOC is just Dennis Kucinich with the advantage of better social media platforms. I could see Pete Buttigeig making things interesting and could even be a VP pick, but unfortunately I think being gay would be a liability in a general election, even in 2028.
Other names to consider are John Ossoff and any number of the Democratic governors we've all mentioned here before. Those people are getting traction, but it's still too early to anoint anyone. I think any of those people would have the potential to win in a landslide.
That said, 2020 is too far off to predict anything worth betting on. It's fun to speculate though.
Agreed about keeping an eye on Ossoff. If he wins his reelection bid, he's a star and immediately in the mix for '28.
I'd also keep an eye on Wes Moore and Josh Shapiro. Mark Kelly, too.
I'm with dbm, there is no way on earth the Democrats are going to run a moderate Jewish guy.
If he wins reelection in Georgia, he's a force to be reckoned with. He has already proven adept at campaign fundraising (he holds a massive cash advantage over his Republican challenger), and he's young, articulate, charismatic and fit. Don't count him out.
What will his answer be if asked about Palestine? If Dems get even a whiff of pro-Israel in his response he’ll be cooked…
Support for Israel's Security & Defense
Right to Self-Defense: Ossoff has repeatedly affirmed Israel's absolute right and obligation to defend its citizens, categorically condemning the October 7, 2023, Hamas attacks as an unpardonable atrocity. He consistently emphasizes that Hamas is a terrorist organization that must be defeated and removed from power in Gaza.
Defensive Military Aid: He supports overall U.S. efforts to fund defensive systems like the Iron Dome and maintain the deterrence capabilities of the Israeli Air Force against threats from regional actors like Iran, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.
Now the rest of the story.
In November 2024, Ossoff was among 19 senators who supported resolutions that would have blocked US military aid to Israel during the Gaza war. He has criticized the scope of civilian deaths and suffering in Gaza as unnecessary and "a moral failure".
He stated that the extreme suffering of civilians, including children, in Gaza was a direct result of the policies of Netanyahu's government.
He voted to block certain weapons sales to Israel, citing concerns that Netanyahu's policies created "intolerable" civilian suffering.
He explicitly criticized the Israeli government for allowing weapons to fall under the control of controversial national security minister Itamar Ben-Gvir.
Like most reasonable people, he recognizes Israel's right to defend itself, but he hasn't hesitated to call out Netanyahu for not giving a shit about civilian lives.
He might stand a chance if he is harsh enough in his criticism & is willing to sell out Israel…
@ohio-guy disagree for a couple of germane reasons. trending where the pulse of the coutnry is is the best indicator of who will be selected. what's more you keep seeing the same names repeatedly - that isn't a coincidence. it's viability. blue cities are a bellwether. nyc going socialist. our board of alderman president. socialist. now hollywood actors coming out in support of socialists. we aren't trending to more conservative views. we're going the other direction. anti jew pro palestine. aoc is the face of the party and a kignmaker at this point for the party. some dude in georgia who is a jew and had an inheritance has zero chance on the national scene. an outlier person whose beliefs are not in keepign with where the party is today. that's aoc. that's newsom now trying to run ads to seem like he is too. that's harris getting on board. these acts aren't a coincidence. you've been in denial for quite a long time now. it's weird
