A few potentially seismic factors omitted from this discussion.
Cybercrime will be a disruptive force at least for a while.
Sabotage and terrorism. Most people, groups and even nations will have nothing to lose.
Population control. With ownership increasingly dominated by fewer and fewer, there will be no obligation to provide for the poor or needy. Some form of indentured servitude may be the only way to survive for most. Overall planetary population might drop into the millions depending on the evolving needs of the oligarchs. Eventually robots may become so lifelike as to be indistinguishable from humans.
Political systems may be dictatorships or oligarchies. UBIs optional at most.
Economics will be controlled by the oligarchs, snuffing out commerce and entrepreneurs at will. Savings and investments not stolen through cybercrime can be expropriated by the oligarchs.
And of course, military assets will be also controlled by the oligarchs such that revolts or revolutions will be suppressed and futile. Those assets will totally futuristic, such as lasers from satellites wiping out any size of crowds. In fact, revolutions will be a game to quell.
Some food for thought:
https://www.mercatus.org/economic-insights/expert-commentary/spending-lot-healthcare-american-way
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2022/09/from-the-comments-more-on-health-care.html
this technology is different. It’s not replacing the car or the computer. It’s replacing the human. Fucking shocking really.
No way in hell will AI replace humans.
the future belongs to human beings and our ability to imagine, innovate, learn, and achieve, none of which AI can do. No doubt AI will cause disruptions and general human skills will need to be upgraded. But AI has limits, not the least of which is the horrendous amount of energy it consumes just to change a lightbulb. Imagine a future with no hunger or poverty, only high living standards in every corner of the world and humans cracking the secrets of existence with AI doing the menial tasks as programmed.
AI replacing a car or a computer is a dead end without a human deciding that is a good idea
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this technology is different. It’s not replacing the car or the computer. It’s replacing the human. Fucking shocking really.
No way in hell will AI replace humans.
the future belongs to human beings and our ability to imagine, innovate, learn, and achieve, none of which AI can do. No doubt AI will cause disruptions and general human skills will need to be upgraded. But AI has limits, not the least of which is the horrendous amount of energy it consumes just to change a lightbulb. Imagine a future with no hunger or poverty, only high living standards in every corner of the world and humans cracking the secrets of existence with AI doing the menial tasks as programmed.
AI replacing a car or a computer is a dead end without a human deciding that is a good idea
See, the thing is - it doesn't need to replace all humans. We make this huge mistake of assuming everybody is like the folks on this board. Above average (for the most part). It will replace below average human output in a variety of areas. Again, 15-20% unemployment with a government $40t in debt is sayonara my friend.
So, you are correct, AI will not replace all human labor. But it doesn't need to in order for the disruptive qualities of this revolution to be society threatening. Mostly, I fear oligarchy and the creation of a permanent underclass. Think Hunger Games or Elysium if you want a movie reference.
@larsiu why. What else are you going to do sitting home waiting for that Fing check
@larsiu why. What else are you going to do sitting home waiting for that Fing check
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@bulk-vh lmao. I really do think we’ll be a mess. Every time I got a big check I immediately wrecked myself. Imagine a 100 million people with mailbox money. 28 yr old pensioners
@larsiu why. What else are you going to do sitting home waiting for that Fing check
More kids without parents who can't earn a living or generally increase their station in life would only increase the amount of UBI or whatever going to those parents. Our oligarchic overlords won't want that. Look for incentivized sterilization.
Seriously, what the hell is the world going to look like when the value of labor falls to near zero for wide swaths of people. Not everybody can be a plumber or electrician or content creator. Pron is already saturated. I see a dystopian future. Good news, I'll be dead for most of it assuming the real shit doesn't hit the fan for another 30 years (thinking it will take a generation for the full force of change to be felt).
@larsiu why. What else are you going to do sitting home waiting for that Fing check
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@larsiu Wasn't it said that all the tech moguls associated with Vance were creating "Tech-topias" that were essentially gated independent countries? Seems like this was a narrative being pushed around the same time as project 2025, or maybe it was part of that.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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