Selling Pringles to China wouldn't cause a stir, but NVIDIA selling one of its more advanced chips to China normally would have a lot of people here upset. Yhe feds are going to score a profit from the sale. Are we happy about this? China gets called a lot of names normally.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-letting-nvidia-sell-h200-advanced-chips-china/
@arthur-dent it's ok because they trust trump to always do the right thing
What are we getting in return?Selling Pringles to China wouldn't cause a stir, but NVIDIA selling one of its more advanced chips to China normally would have a lot of people here upset. Yhe feds are going to score a profit from the sale. Are we happy about this? China gets called a lot of names normally.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-letting-nvidia-sell-h200-advanced-chips-china/
A...What are we getting in return?Selling Pringles to China wouldn't cause a stir, but NVIDIA selling one of its more advanced chips to China normally would have a lot of people here upset. Yhe feds are going to score a profit from the sale. Are we happy about this? China gets called a lot of names normally.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-letting-nvidia-sell-h200-advanced-chips-china/
@bradstevens I haven't seen quid pro quos except for money. Maybe that is being hidden.
I guarantee if Biden had approved a deal like this, it would be crazy.
I don't think I care one way or the other, where is the "China is evil" lobby though.
At least Trump banned the TiKToks here in...
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@bradstevens I haven't seen quid pro quos except for money. Maybe that is being hidden.
I guarantee if Biden had approved a deal like this, it would be crazy.
I don't think I care one way or the other, where is the "China is evil" lobby though.
i am not a fan at all. Now they’ll use these to spread more deadly diseases for shooter to research.
Chips to China? What's next, Crisps to Cambodia? Tortillas to Taiwan?
Slippery Slope...
A good friend will bail you out of jail, but your best friend will be sitting next to you in the cell saying "that was f***ing awesome"
What are we getting in return?Selling Pringles to China wouldn't cause a stir, but NVIDIA selling one of its more advanced chips to China normally would have a lot of people here upset. Yhe feds are going to score a profit from the sale. Are we happy about this? China gets called a lot of names normally.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-letting-nvidia-sell-h200-advanced-chips-china/
dudes in camo
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/2059933393815580927
Get the car battery and testicle clamps ready.What are we getting in return?Selling Pringles to China wouldn't cause a stir, but NVIDIA selling one of its more advanced chips to China normally would have a lot of people here upset. Yhe feds are going to score a profit from the sale. Are we happy about this? China gets called a lot of names normally.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-letting-nvidia-sell-h200-advanced-chips-china/
dudes in camo
https://twitter.com/Osint613/status/2059933393815580927
I mean, the whole argument 6 years ago was that they were stealing our technology / intellectual property. At least now we are (kinda) getting paid for it? I would still file it under the category of "Gee golly whiz, the Republicans are being hypocrites again? I'm shocked"
I mean, the whole argument 6 years ago was that they were stealing our technology / intellectual property. At least now we are (kinda) getting paid for it? I would still file it under the category of "Gee golly whiz, the Republicans are being hypocrites again? I'm shocked"
I'd be interested in a take from @noodle b/c I think he has some direct experience, but I personally think it's a terrible idea. IP theft risk has not changed from the business leaders I talk to.
SAIS John Hopkins had a great review of this issue:
https://saisreview.sais.jhu.edu/how-chinas-political-system-discourages-innovation-and-encourages-ip-theft/
Fastwave Medical was recently screwed by a Chinese VC firm that acquired access to its IP, blocked it from being able to raise further funds to develop and progress its device, and is providing that IP to a competitive Chinese firm it also invested in.
Here's an example of Trumpian corruption and his anti-Rhino behavior.
@jdb I think it's a fair assumption that China already has some of the NVIDIA chips. So I don't think it's an issue of allowing China to steal the chip technology. However, those chips will provide some help to China with respect to AI and their use of AI to develop new technology, spy, etc. That has been the whole crux of the issue. Plus, I believe those chips are pretty hard to reverse engineer and then successfully duplicate.
Still, anyone who discloses their valuable trade secrets to Chinese companies is playing with fire. I continue to advise clients to keep things like software - especially source code - and other highly significant trade secrets stateside whenever possible. Have the hardware made in China, but load the software onto that hardware at your own facility in the U.S. Of course, protections like that are not always possible so you have to balance the financial benefit against the risk of giving up your IP. Just assume that whatever you disclose will be stolen.
But, the financial rewards can be immense. Talked to a client yesterday who was contemplating buying another mold for a plastic part. He could get one made in China for ~$10K or here in the U.S. for about $100K. No meaningful differences between the two molds - other than about $90K.
But, the financial rewards can be immense. Talked to a client yesterday who was contemplating buying another mold for a plastic part. He could get one made in China for ~$10K or here in the U.S. for about $100K. No meaningful differences between the two molds - other than about $90K.
Great perspective. That, to me, seems to be the key. You can still source components and manufacturing fixtures from China for a fraction of the price, but do the IP-driven work domestically (or elsewhere, where trade theft is less of a concern).
I do wonder how AI will transform all of this. China can likely use it to reverse-engineer more quickly, redesign or modify designs more effectively, and perhaps even spur invention. The U.S. should be able to harness AI to increase its competitiveness in production, aided by automation, and reduce unit costs through design optimization and more efficient operations.
The next five years will be interesting.