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@snarlcakes 

What is inaccurate about the article I cited and/or the McKinsey report it references, and why?  Be specific. 

Why would I read the article? The title is dumb and outdated. Food affordability has gotten better since 2024.  

https://twitter.com/jmhorp/status/2086138593865535497?s=20

 

You've criticized an article and report, neither of which you've read. 

That's a special kind of stupid. 

Have a nice day. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2026 8:37 am
OneEyedUndertaker
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

@snarlcakes 

What is inaccurate about the article I cited and/or the McKinsey report it references, and why?  Be specific. 

Why would I read the article? The title is dumb and outdated. Food affordability has gotten better since 2024.  

https://twitter.com/jmhorp/status/2086138593865535497?s=20

 

You've criticized an article and report, neither of which you've read. 

That's a special kind of stupid. 

Have a nice day. 

 

It can be difficult to separate the credibility of an article from that of the poster that put it up…

 


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Posted : 08/10/2026 8:53 am
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Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

@snarlcakes 

What is inaccurate about the article I cited and/or the McKinsey report it references, and why?  Be specific. 

Why would I read the article? The title is dumb and outdated. Food affordability has gotten better since 2024.  

https://twitter.com/jmhorp/status/2086138593865535497?s=20

 

You've criticized an article and report, neither of which you've read. 

That's a special kind of stupid. 

Have a nice day. 

 

It can be difficult to separate the credibility of an article from that of the poster that put it up…

 

That shouldn't be difficult at all for someone who's able and willing to read and critically think. 

You never bring anything of value to the discussion.  Stop wasting my time. 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 08/10/2026 8:59 am
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Posted by: @big-ryan

Posted by: @snarlcakes

Posted by: @big-ryan

@snarlcakes 

What is inaccurate about the article I cited and/or the McKinsey report it references, and why?  Be specific. 

Why would I read the article? The title is dumb and outdated. Food affordability has gotten better since 2024.  

https://twitter.com/jmhorp/status/2086138593865535497?s=20

 

You've criticized an article and report, neither of which you've read. 

That's a special kind of stupid. 

Have a nice day. 

 

Speaking of stupid, Butch.  Biden was the first President, since Carter, to have a term where food inflation outpaced wage gains.  It's impressive how bad Democrats are at governing.  

 


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Posted : 08/10/2026 11:59 am
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@snarlcakes prices skyrocketed UNDER biden yet here's @big-ryan crying now.  make it stop colonel!


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Posted : 08/10/2026 12:04 pm
Bulk VH
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

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@snarlcakes I feel like he doesn’t know you’re the colonel now

Colonel Cakes?  It does have a nice ring to it. 

 

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Posted : 08/10/2026 1:23 pm
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Goat
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Biden was the first President, since Carter, to have a term where food inflation outpaced wage gains.  It's impressive how bad Democrats are at governing.

Not true! Trump's first term, food went up 20.5%, while earnings went up 15.3% (using the same Fred data). Can't compare to Biden because the food data for 2025 isn't there, but as of 2024, under Biden, wages went up 17.7%, while food went up 18.3%.

So if those numbers held for another year, than Biden was the first president to see food inflation outpace wages since Trump, not since Carter, and the disparity was worse under Trump.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 3:54 pm
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Posted by: @snarlcakes

Biden was the first President, since Carter, to have a term where food inflation outpaced wage gains.  It's impressive how bad Democrats are at governing.

Not true! Trump's first term, food went up 20.5%, while earnings went up 15.3% (using the same Fred data). Can't compare to Biden because the food data for 2025 isn't there, but as of 2024, under Biden, wages went up 17.7%, while food went up 18.3%.

So if those numbers held for another year, than Biden was the first president to see food inflation outpace wages since Trump, not since Carter, and the disparity was worse under Trump.

Not sure what you're looking at, but food inflation was very low during Trump's 1st term. 

Quick comparison of recent full terms (using BLS data for food-at-home CPI and average hourly earnings of production/nonsupervisory workers, a standard long-running wage series)

  Biden (Jan 2021–Jan 2025): Food-at-home CPI ≈ +23%; wages ≈ +22%. Food edged ahead (real wages down modestly overall). @grok 

  Trump (2017–2021): Food-at-home CPI ≈ +6–7%; wages rose substantially more (real wages increased). Wages clearly outpaced. wisconsinwatch.org  politifact.com 

  Obama (2009–2017): Food-at-home CPI ≈ +10%; wages ≈ +37%. Wages far outpaced.

  George W. Bush (2001–2009): Food-at-home CPI ≈ +26%; wages ≈ +29%. Wages slightly ahead cumulatively.

 


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Posted : 08/10/2026 4:31 pm
Goat
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@snarlcakes All I did was plug in the same data sets from the original graph, and indexed them to each president's first day in office. Not sure why the numbers are so different. I'll get back into it later if I have time, see if I can find the discrepancy.


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Posted : 08/10/2026 5:00 pm
Goat
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@snarlcakes I figured out the discrepancy. It's between the CPI, which uses urban prices only (up 6.5% under Trump 1) and the "all consumer units" survey, which includes rural data (up 20.5% under Trump 1). I have no idea why the difference between the two datasets would be so stark. Look at how dramatically they flip in the years prior to and shortly after Trump took office:

fredgraphfood

Edit: digging into it, it seems the all consumers survey tracks actual spending, not prices, and the dramatic increase might be explained by behavior, i.e., consumers shifting to fancier foods, more organics, etc. So it's not an ideal measure for inflation.


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