Roster last year. There are may here who want to give the excuse for DD that he needs time , he had to rebuild the whole roster.
Dusty May brought in 10 players from the portal last year. Michigan was not stocked with talent. He kept 3 players. The only one who played and time was Will Tschetter. And his time wasn't much.
DD brought Tucker who you could say was on the "roster " so to speak .. he knew the system . So was CE having played for DD for a couple of years. So in essence we are done 1 less player of familiarity. May brought 1 player with him from FAU... Vald Goldin. That's it. Proof it can be done with a rather complete roster reconstruction. Only we need more time.
So hire Dusty.
Who are the other coaches with the fast rebuilds?
But yes, roster is a bit of a concern. I just don't believe many other coaches out there would get much if any more out of our team this year. Who's fault is that, Coach DeVries for the roster. But there are other factors, for one who was available.
We should probably hire a new coach every year until we find one that makes the Sweet Sixteen right away and see how that works. But truthfully, we should start looking around mid-January, because by then, many of our esteemed posters will already know whether a fork can be stuck in the coach or not and others can come up with cutesy nicknames for him that aren't flattering.
So far, posting about it on a message board incessantly hasn't brought the results we'd like. Surely this new approach will take us back to glory.
We should probably hire a new coach every year until we find one that makes the Sweet Sixteen right away and see how that works. But truthfully, we should start looking around mid-January, because by then, many of our esteemed posters will already know whether a fork can be stuck in the coach or not and others can come up with cutesy nicknames for him that aren't flattering.
So far, posting about it on a message board incessantly hasn't brought the results we'd like. Surely this new approach will take us back to glory.
at least your attempt at humor is thinking outside the box. I like it.
@openwheel We should have hired him last year! Should have fired Woody 1 year sooner and hired May. Biggest no-brainer in the history of no-brainers... but somehow, as we seem to always do, we f'd it up. I'll never get over this, at least not until DD starts bringing home some hardware.
@openwheel We should have hired him last year! Should have fired Woody 1 year sooner and hired May. Biggest no-brainer in the history of no-brainers... but somehow, as we seem to always do, we f'd it up. I'll never get over this, at least not until DD starts bringing home some hardware.
I'm already over it. Thank you, Curt Cignetti!
So hire Dusty.
Who are the other coaches with the fast rebuilds?
But yes, roster is a bit of a concern. I just don't believe many other coaches out there would get much if any more out of our team this year. Who's fault is that, Coach DeVries for the roster. But there are other factors, for one who was available.
so Just resign yourself to the fact that it's too hard to do and throw in the towel. He basically did last year what we did this year and made it to the S16 , finished tied for 2nd in the Big Ten and won the big ten tournament ... but we suffered from a ooor portal class and had to add a couple more players than he did ...
calipari added 9 players from the portal last year. Albeit their results not as accomplished as Michigan they too made it to the S16
@openwheel We should have hired him last year! Should have fired Woody 1 year sooner and hired May. Biggest no-brainer in the history of no-brainers... but somehow, as we seem to always do, we f'd it up. I'll never get over this, at least not until DD starts bringing home some hardware.
I agree it's the year after year lack of urgency to win and win big. You have to wonder what is the university's goal for basketball
I am resigned to the fact that it is hard to do.
Which I think is a reasonable take.
Coach DeVries is going to get his three years minimum. That's just reality. (OK, if we totally tank next year, maybe not, but that won't happen.)
We'll be reading the same stuff in three years: Each Portal has been weak, DD can't be expected to win in his first few seasons, yada yada yada.at least your attempt at humor is thinking outside the box. I like it.
Moreover, I find it interesting some folks downplay May's accomplishments. It's okay to admit Michigan landed an excellent coach who IU could have had.
On this forum, it's quite evident who accepts mediocrity ... and who does not. (Cue the "he's better than Woody" comments.)
The "he needs time" nonsense is such antiquated thinking in the NIL era.There are may here who want to give the excuse for DD that he needs time , he had to rebuild the whole roster.
You seem to be forgetting all the Participation trophies.I'll never get over this, at least not until DD starts bringing home some hardware.
If you get that in three years it'll be from someone as dumb as someone saying his tenure is a failure after 3+ months.We'll be reading the same stuff in three years: Each Portal has been weak, DD can't be expected to win in his first few seasons, yada yada yada.at least your attempt at humor is thinking outside the box. I like it.
Moreover, I find it interesting some folks downplay May's accomplishments. It's okay to admit Michigan landed an excellent coach who IU could have had.
On this forum, it's quite evident who accepts mediocrity ... and who does not. (Cue the "he's better than Woody" comments.)
@hoosiers94 Dusty May, Tommy Lloyd... for all the likely dozens of coaching hires that have been made in the last 5-6 years, those are the 2 that I could find that were new to the program, and had those levels of immediate success in year 1.
Basically no one on this board would sign up for Indiana to be a perpetual .500 B10 team. But some of us are trying to remain realistic about who we are, who we are no longer, and what is actually realistic in this day and age. And what the most likely path is back to what we all want.
You're pushing for magic wand, lottery winning, type stuff. Sure, it could happen for the bball program like it did for football program. And it SHOULD have happened with Dusty May last year. I haven't seen really anyone refuting that. But it didn't. And Tommy LLoyd was never an option. And since no one else has ever done it... and other "blue blood" coaching searches showed that just "going and getting whoever you want" isn't a reality any more... and with other "blue blood" programs like UNC sticking with coaches that have had pedestrian results, like Hubert Davis... Then maybe taking a deep breath, realizing that CDD is gonna be here for multiple years, is an acceptable approach, if not the correct approach. It sure opens up enjoying more the things he has done well, and is doing well.
Sooo... say Dolson adopts your mentality, figures out how to get the 30+ million it'll take to can CDD now, and then figures out how to have a blank check for the hire this next offseason... Who should he hire? Why? And why don't you think he went after that person last year? And why do you think programs like Kentucky and Louisville couldn't get coaches like that, and IU can?
Roster last year. There are may here who want to give the excuse for DD that he needs time , he had to rebuild the whole roster.
Dusty May brought in 10 players from the portal last year. Michigan was not stocked with talent. He kept 3 players. The only one who played and time was Will Tschetter. And his time wasn't much.
DD brought Tucker who you could say was on the "roster " so to speak .. he knew the system . So was CE having played for DD for a couple of years. So in essence we are done 1 less player of familiarity. May brought 1 player with him from FAU... Vald Goldin. That's it. Proof it can be done with a rather complete roster reconstruction. Only we need more time.
Well, the season isn't over yet. We're essentially right in the ballpark with Kelsey/Pope/May last year with May being the clear best of the 3.
Also, you may want to act like its an excuse but the portal/nil/rev-share was dramatically different this year compared to last. Thats not debatable.
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