and in this article, Tom Izzo sounds off on it. I agree with Izzo. There are no rules in college basketball anymore.
Izzo's also right about high school players getting the short end of the stick here. Between the transfer portal and recruiting pros, why would you take a flyer on a high school kid who isn't a clear top/generational prospect?
Maybe this is good for mid-majors and non-power 4 conferences to get better high school players who want to prove themselves...I don't know.
CBB needs to be careful. We can’t get to a point where there are a bunch of mid-20’s flame out pros getting eligible and playing college ball. It will kill the game.
CBB needs to be careful. We can’t get to a point where there are a bunch of mid-20’s flame out pros getting eligible and playing college ball. It will kill the game.
and there is still the issue of whether or not someone challenges that they're an employee and not just a contract worker. Can you tell an employee they're only going to work for you for 2-4 years? Could we be heading down the path of intros being like, "...and entering his 10th year for YOUR Indiana Hoosiers..."
@ohio-guy It’s a mess. I’m tired of it.
I like the players getting paid. But I am not okay with non-college age kids. I also don’t like the lack of real pro contracts that come with the big $ players are getting.
But, is what it is. Good luck CDD.
College basketball recruiting has completely gotten out of hand. Is there anyone or any organization capable of fixing this mess? What's the next step in the evolution of recruiting?
This, with the expansion of the 64 team tournament, is going to finish killing this game. The NCAA is straight up trash at this point. They've lost CFB, they're going to lose CBB, and they're going to soon cease to exist. Unfortunately, they'll kill CBB before they implode.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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This, with the expansion of the 64 team tournament, is going to finish killing this game. The NCAA is straight up trash at this point. They've lost CFB, they're going to lose CBB, and they're going to soon cease to exist. Unfortunately, they'll kill CBB before they implode.
I'm just curious what they'll do with the college brands. It wouldn't be anywhere near the same, but would the Indiana Hoosiers still play in the Big Ten even if it's now a defacto professional basketball league?
This, with the expansion of the 64 team tournament, is going to finish killing this game. The NCAA is straight up trash at this point. They've lost CFB, they're going to lose CBB, and they're going to soon cease to exist. Unfortunately, they'll kill CBB before they implode.
I’d like to see it happen, and hope that something resembling college athletics replaced it.
there’s always the NBA? It at least has some semblance of parity, of rules, and there are guardrails that every program must adhere to. At least with a pro team you know who the owner is, and who you are rooting for.
Each sport needs a commissioner. And for basketball, that commissioner needs to:
1. Get back to regulating transfers, better. Something like, transfers always allowed when coaching staff changes. Outside that, 1 free transfer, after 1, sit out a year. Max of 2 transfers.
2. Any/all NIL money will have a contract associated with it. That will include attending school, maintaining some sort of minimum GPA through end of school year, etc...
3. Some sort of age limit, or time fence from time of graduating high school. Maybe something like maximum of 6 years from time of high school graduation. Can't be older than 24 years old a the start of season... something like that.
I'm sure there are legal challenges to these above things. But it would be the commissioners job to navigate through that, and come up with common sense, enforceable rules, in the spirit of those above, to bring some sanity back to college sports.
Each sport needs a commissioner. And for basketball, that commissioner needs to:
1. Get back to regulating transfers, better. Something like, transfers always allowed when coaching staff changes. Outside that, 1 free transfer, after 1, sit out a year. Max of 2 transfers.
2. Any/all NIL money will have a contract associated with it. That will include attending school, maintaining some sort of minimum GPA through end of school year, etc...
3. Some sort of age limit, or time fence from time of graduating high school. Maybe something like maximum of 6 years from time of high school graduation. Can't be older than 24 years old a the start of season... something like that.
I'm sure there are legal challenges to these above things. But it would be the commissioners job to navigate through that, and come up with common sense, enforceable rules, in the spirit of those above, to bring some sanity back to college sports.
these are all reasonable, but it wouldn’t shock me to see things go the other way- for example, a player has the right to be a member of multiple teams at the same time. Why limit their ability as independent contractors?
@hooky I'm with you. Greed will kill the game as those in power care to only fill their pockets with cash. I go way back to the time when it was truly a great achievement to make the NCAA tourney but with the expanded fields many mediocre teams now get in. The NCAA doesn't care about the integrity of the game but merely maximizing revenue through adding more games.
This, with the expansion of the 64 team tournament, is going to finish killing this game. The NCAA is straight up trash at this point. They've lost CFB, they're going to lose CBB, and they're going to soon cease to exist. Unfortunately, they'll kill CBB before they implode.
I'm just curious what they'll do with the college brands. It wouldn't be anywhere near the same, but would the Indiana Hoosiers still play in the Big Ten even if it's now a defacto professional basketball league?
The Big Ten Conference and Indiana University exist outside of the NCAA. If the NCAA ceases to exist, I'll think you'll see a new governing body for football and one for basketball. The non-revenue sports may be screwed as a result, but maybe there's a solution there too.
@Gerdis The schools themselves may light the fuse to blow up the NCAA in an attempt to save CBB.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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Each sport needs a commissioner. And for basketball, that commissioner needs to:
1. Get back to regulating transfers, better. Something like, transfers always allowed when coaching staff changes. Outside that, 1 free transfer, after 1, sit out a year. Max of 2 transfers.
2. Any/all NIL money will have a contract associated with it. That will include attending school, maintaining some sort of minimum GPA through end of school year, etc...
3. Some sort of age limit, or time fence from time of graduating high school. Maybe something like maximum of 6 years from time of high school graduation. Can't be older than 24 years old a the start of season... something like that.
I'm sure there are legal challenges to these above things. But it would be the commissioners job to navigate through that, and come up with common sense, enforceable rules, in the spirit of those above, to bring some sanity back to college sports.
aftet world war 2 there were plenty of 20 something players on rosters. Not sure that would fly. Been done before but was so long ago no one hardly remembered
G Isiah Thomas
G Jay Edwards
G Victor Olapido
G Eric Gordon
F Cody Zeller
Not the tallest lineup, but all have eligibility remaining.
G Isiah Thomas
G Jay Edwards
G Victor Olapido
G Eric Gordon
F Cody Zeller
Not the tallest lineup, but all have eligibility remaining.
Oladipo isn't in the NBA right now, but I bet he'd tear up college basketball. He's still playing professionally and is looking for a team to sign him so he's in good basketball shape. At this point if he could make $2-3 million to come back to IU and play for the year, what is stopping him?
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