you know a lot about being in way over your headDoes anyone think Coach Doorknob has the ability to fire up or inspire his players? He’s another Archie, in way over his head.
I’ve been exactly right about IU athletics for years.
You're lucky people can't search this site or dig up posts on the old site (maybe they can?) about just how wrong you have been, particularly about football.
@surjay Great point on the staff, and bringing players with him. Dusty May, I now don't believe, was ever a real possibility... not last year, and certainly not this past year. I know people "that would know", that were pretty adamant he and his family weren't going to come to IU, and that's one of the reasons everyone rallied behind Woodson, instead of canning him after year 3. Combined with the "inside info", and the memory of there being a week or two that most were certain that Woodson was going to be fired, only to have the narrative switch very quickly... I feel that May was vetted, and he said no, and so we doubled down on Woodson.... So, outside having the salesman chops to just make the whole May thing happen, I don't think Dolson actually fumbled that one as badly as most assume he did.
I think his biggest mistake was that he didn't take the Ben McCollum interview, vetting process, etc... more seriously. I started following McCollum early in Woodson's last year... and I knew that one of the key ways to get McCollum to consider a school outside Iowa, would have been to 1)prioritize him 2)Make him know that he had IU's full resources, but that he had 100% autonomy to use them however he saw fit. Here's where conjecture comes in to play... I think he probably did reach out, and interview in some capacity, both McCollum and DeVries. But I think he probably gravitated more to DeVries, from the get go, because DeVries was probably a little bit more of an accommodating personality. Had he approached the McCollum interviews with the right mindset, and focus... I suspect DeVries is probably the Iowa coach right now, and McCollum the IU coach.
DeVries can still be a very good coach, at IU. But as you pointed out, he didn't bring much of a staff with him, and he only brought a couple players in Tucker and then Conor. And Dolson knew that dynamic, and should have put more credence in how much less likely a strong start was with DeVries, than it would have been with McCollum. McCollum would have brought his entire staff, 2-3 B10 level starters... as a starting point, to IU. Maybe he brings the exact same guys he added to his Iowa roster, maybe he gets a few higher caliber guys with IU's added resources.
I think the realistic miss, was McCollum. We'll see what he does at Iowa without Stirtz next year. He certainly didn't dominate the B10 in year 1. But he was the surest thing we could have gotten... is my uninformed opinion.
@gros-louis Just go back to the first IUFB Game thread haha. Heck, there were writers at the ODU postgame saying this wasn't even a CFP team just a 7-5 disappointment
@surjay Great point on the staff, and bringing players with him. Dusty May, I now don't believe, was ever a real possibility... not last year, and certainly not this past year. I know people "that would know", that were pretty adamant he and his family weren't going to come to IU, and that's one of the reasons everyone rallied behind Woodson, instead of canning him after year 3. Combined with the "inside info", and the memory of there being a week or two that most were certain that Woodson was going to be fired, only to have the narrative switch very quickly... I feel that May was vetted, and he said no, and so we doubled down on Woodson.... So, outside having the salesman chops to just make the whole May thing happen, I don't think Dolson actually fumbled that one as badly as most assume he did.
I think his biggest mistake was that he didn't take the Ben McCollum interview, vetting process, etc... more seriously. I started following McCollum early in Woodson's last year... and I knew that one of the key ways to get McCollum to consider a school outside Iowa, would have been to 1)prioritize him 2)Make him know that he had IU's full resources, but that he had 100% autonomy to use them however he saw fit. Here's where conjecture comes in to play... I think he probably did reach out, and interview in some capacity, both McCollum and DeVries. But I think he probably gravitated more to DeVries, from the get go, because DeVries was probably a little bit more of an accommodating personality. Had he approached the McCollum interviews with the right mindset, and focus... I suspect DeVries is probably the Iowa coach right now, and McCollum the IU coach.
DeVries can still be a very good coach, at IU. But as you pointed out, he didn't bring much of a staff with him, and he only brought a couple players in Tucker and then Conor. And Dolson knew that dynamic, and should have put more credence in how much less likely a strong start was with DeVries, than it would have been with McCollum. McCollum would have brought his entire staff, 2-3 B10 level starters... as a starting point, to IU. Maybe he brings the exact same guys he added to his Iowa roster, maybe he gets a few higher caliber guys with IU's added resources.
I think the realistic miss, was McCollum. We'll see what he does at Iowa without Stirtz next year. He certainly didn't dominate the B10 in year 1. But he was the surest thing we could have gotten... is my uninformed opinion.
DeVries can still be a very good coach, at IU.
That is if miracle worker carr gets him a good roster. If not I do not see it.
you know a lot about being in way over your headDoes anyone think Coach Doorknob has the ability to fire up or inspire his players? He’s another Archie, in way over his head.
I’ve been exactly right about IU athletics for years.
Here's where you questioned whether we could have gotten a QB better than Mendoza in the portal
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18745/
Can't win at Autzen, and Cignetti goes into turtle mode
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/29461/
Permanent damage
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/22624/
Here's where we imploded vs Kennesaw State
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20375/
More consternation. Not a 9-10 win team based on middle of the game vs KSU
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20373/
Soured on Shanahan, Cignetti isn't perfect
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/19587/
Here's a DOOZY! IU just isn't meant to be good at football...during the ODU game
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18636/
More ODU commentary. Just raze the stadium and do an exorcism.
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18520/
This was a fun exercise. Saw a lot of other freezing cold takes from other posters, but not sure anyone as consistently as you.
I think for DeVries' offense, IU needs pick and pop bigs. Ware would have been perfect.
But along those lines Zeller, also for the ability to move after screens.
PG x2. For whatever reason, Purdue gets a PG and the kid goes 4 years without missing a darn minute to injury. Indiana cant seem to do that, so we need 2 of them.
Power forward with good hands. Essentially, capable of weak side alley oop dunks, but body that can defend in the Big Ten.
Shooters? Sure, but right now that isn't even top 3 of needs because it will be a whole new team and Tucker isn't one of them. Its hard to know what DeVries does when Tucker isn't part of his team. He may go a different direction with the offense, we dont know.
@iugradman hello?you know a lot about being in way over your headDoes anyone think Coach Doorknob has the ability to fire up or inspire his players? He’s another Archie, in way over his head.
I’ve been exactly right about IU athletics for years.
Here's where you questioned whether we could have gotten a QB better than Mendoza in the portal
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18745/Can't win at Autzen, and Cignetti goes into turtle mode
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/29461/Permanent damage
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/22624/Here's where we imploded vs Kennesaw State
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20375/More consternation. Not a 9-10 win team based on middle of the game vs KSU
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20373/Soured on Shanahan, Cignetti isn't perfect
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/19587/Here's a DOOZY! IU just isn't meant to be good at football...during the ODU game
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18636/More ODU commentary. Just raze the stadium and do an exorcism.
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18520/This was a fun exercise. Saw a lot of other freezing cold takes from other posters, but not sure anyone as consistently as you.
You researched/linked all that just to prove a point? I wish you were handling another set of files.you know a lot about being in way over your headDoes anyone think Coach Doorknob has the ability to fire up or inspire his players? He’s another Archie, in way over his head.
I’ve been exactly right about IU athletics for years.
Here's where you questioned whether we could have gotten a QB better than Mendoza in the portal
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18745/Can't win at Autzen, and Cignetti goes into turtle mode
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/29461/Permanent damage
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/22624/Here's where we imploded vs Kennesaw State
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20375/More consternation. Not a 9-10 win team based on middle of the game vs KSU
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20373/Soured on Shanahan, Cignetti isn't perfect
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/19587/Here's a DOOZY! IU just isn't meant to be good at football...during the ODU game
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18636/More ODU commentary. Just raze the stadium and do an exorcism.
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18520/This was a fun exercise. Saw a lot of other freezing cold takes from other posters, but not sure anyone as consistently as you.
I think for DeVries' offense, IU needs pick and pop bigs. Ware would have been perfect.
But along those lines Zeller, also for the ability to move after screens.
PG x2. For whatever reason, Purdue gets a PG and the kid goes 4 years without missing a darn minute to injury. Indiana cant seem to do that, so we need 2 of them.
Power forward with good hands. Essentially, capable of weak side alley oop dunks, but body that can defend in the Big Ten.
Shooters? Sure, but right now that isn't even top 3 of needs because it will be a whole new team and Tucker isn't one of them. Its hard to know what DeVries does when Tucker isn't part of his team. He may go a different direction with the offense, we dont know.
I think generally that's correct, but if you have a springy 6 10 or up guy who can't shoot but can hang out on the baseline, out of the way, waiting for lobs....that can also work.
@iugradman hello?you know a lot about being in way over your headDoes anyone think Coach Doorknob has the ability to fire up or inspire his players? He’s another Archie, in way over his head.
I’ve been exactly right about IU athletics for years.
Here's where you questioned whether we could have gotten a QB better than Mendoza in the portal
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18745/Can't win at Autzen, and Cignetti goes into turtle mode
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/29461/Permanent damage
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/22624/Here's where we imploded vs Kennesaw State
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20375/More consternation. Not a 9-10 win team based on middle of the game vs KSU
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/20373/Soured on Shanahan, Cignetti isn't perfect
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/19587/Here's a DOOZY! IU just isn't meant to be good at football...during the ODU game
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18636/More ODU commentary. Just raze the stadium and do an exorcism.
https://hoosierhuddle.com/community/postid/18520/This was a fun exercise. Saw a lot of other freezing cold takes from other posters, but not sure anyone as consistently as you.
Yeah I get caught up in the moment and tend to be negative. But most of what happens at IU is negative. It’s like being a bull on Wall Street. The market does go down but mostly goes up.
If not, then DeVries will do it the old fashioned way. Recruiting. Which means he needs to retain Sisley and the three coming in who are well regarded. Pick up some bigger guys with talent....
DeVries can still be a very good coach, at IU.
That is if miracle worker carr gets him a good roster. If not I do not see it.
And it will mean we need to be patient. Maybe next year we roll with Sisley, three frosh, and a bag of castoffs. Hopefully better.
I don't know if the 'recruit and retain' model will be successful in the new era, but I find it hard to believe it would be worse. No worse than fighting every year for the best mercenaries. We want OUR mercenaries... Recruits and retainees. They can hold up Indiana for a bag, as long as they stay a good while.
I am expecting (hoping) that one place Carr's influence shows up is knowing what to spend and how to get the high end frosh recruits. Maybe he won't help, but thats part of his job, figuring it all out. DeVries has to sell it, and judging by a few decent freshman so far in a short time, maybe he can.
@openwheel The 26-27 season will let us know if DeVries will work or not. He'll have a full portal season to build the roster how it needs to be built, a top-20 class to lay a foundation and Branham in the 2027 class already. With how college sports work today patience runs thin, coaches won't get 4 years to get through a recruiting cycle.
There are some aspects here that I believe people are discounting a bit. Darian will no longer have his son playing for him or Enright who he held in high regards as well. That could help team chemistry and rotations. We'll see, but he does not have unlimited time to get it on track.
@mushroomgod I am locked into spring football right now so drawing that line isn't there for me yet, but that seems like a reasonable place to start.