@thehoosierhuddle Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but I, and Vegas, disagree on downgrading OSU for their schedule. their O/U for wins is 9.5 and IU and OR are 10.5. That's almost entirely on their schedule. That and a boatload of draft picks being gone along with Hartline! Maybe you meant their playoff predictions? I don't know what he predicted OSU to do in the playoffs, but he has OR winning it all last I heard, so not an undefeated season for IU through the playoffs.

@kkott Predicting another undefeated season is just an attempt to be overly optimistic about the fan base that will engage with that content. Some of his takes are good, others are not so good. We'll do our predictions in a couple of weeks as things get closer, but to downgrade OSU just on their schedule is silly. 

I do think this team is just as talented or more than last year in some spots, but that team just had IT and that is tough to replicate, even with the culture being set in place. The 2025 team responded every time they got punched in the mouth, that's a special trait. We'll see if this team has that.

@kkott I meant actual quality of team on the field. The Texas game does not count toward the Big Ten Standings, so they can be 10-2 in the Big Ten title game.

Yes, They play at IU, at USC and Oregon at home.At Iowa is always tricky and they have dropped the Michigan game before in a spot where they were clearly better. 

I know FPI has its flaws, but they have OSU at 10.2-2.4. Tops in the Big Ten. They are slight dogs at Texas and at Indiana. FPI right now gives them a 75% chance at beating USC and an 87% chance of winning at Iowa and a 71% chance of beating Oregon at home.

I will not just toss OSU on the scrap heap because of a win total. If anything, they are undervalued and I will jump on the over 9.5. It's also why you play the game on the field and not on a spreadsheet. 

I appriciate the discourse @kkott 

@middawg That's one of his better takes. IU is basically a lock for the playoff even if they go under 10.5 wins. There are other segments that are engagement bait.

Sorry, I am coming off a little harsh on Sam. He seems like a good dude who wants to talk ball and is high on IU. 

@kkott prime also saw a “tell” in the Miami film before the natty game. Prime is pretty good at breaking down film. He communicated directly with the staff about it…or ponds. Can’t remember which. Seems pretty elementary on Miami part. 😂

@d-b-cooper Buffed in Prime does awesome stuff.