@unclemark a lot of fighting and attacks in this thread. Very interesting. I might post over here more.
Iu is fine. And my post bitching about our shitty non conf schedule was wrong inasmuch as it’s obviously not worth the risk of an additional loss. Lose one more now we’re likely okay. 3 forget it even if the nonconf was to a solid team
We're complaining about a guy that threw for 296 yards and was a foot out of bounds from having over 300 yards and the winning touchdown pass.
Cmon, Boogie. You can't just look at the yardage. He was 50% on his passes, 20-40; in this system, that's not good.
Add his failure to read/see open guys, and what I can only assume are missed run reads on the RPOs, and it was a bad day. Let's hope he bounces back against Michigan.
All that said, Marsh should have been aware enough to get his foot down.
...You dont throw a bad pass and blame the receiver for not making an insane play to correct the bad throw. Ha
I am 100% sure that even Nick Marsh disagrees with you.
I'm 100% sure any player would and should take responsibility for any play. Hes a great kid doing what great teammates do. That doesn't remove common sense from the equation.
We're complaining about a guy that threw for 296 yards and was a foot out of bounds from having over 300 yards and the winning touchdown pass.
Cmon, Boogie. You can't just look at the yardage. He was 50% on his passes, 20-40; in this system, that's not good.
Add his failure to read/see open guys, and what I can only assume are missed run reads on the RPOs, and it was a bad day. Let's hope he bounces back against Michigan.
All that said, Marsh should have been aware enough to get his foot down.
I haven't once said he was good, but only that his bad day went for almost 300 yards.
What help did he have out there? Our running game never got going and as much as we all like Ajani, he's starting to become a concern. I don't think tackle is his best position, but the reality is we really don't have anyone better to put there, so we've constantly got to help him in passing situations.
Hoover missed guys, absolutely. He also stepped up and made some really good throws. Ohio State is really good. We weren't playing a nobody. They've got pros all over the field. Before that last throw, we had two missed field goals and two fumbles that we miraculously only gave up 3 points on.
We can absolutely win with Hoover as qb.
Also, as a side night, I really hate the way roughing the passer is called. We should just start putting these qbs in flags to stop from hitting them at all. Guys can't hit them and land on them? Where are they suppose to fall? The OSU one, as much as we'll all take the free yards, was also a BS call. It was right with the letter of the rule, but the rule needs changed. Nothing was late, nothing was trying to hurt either guy. Football is really soft right now.
The good news is that loss will not hurt our chances to get into the CFP much and Cig and staff have the rest of the year to continue to improve these guys. They will not reach the level of last year, but not many ever will. I’m still excited about this team and the possibilities for improvement are pretty big and I trust This coaching staff to produce on many of them.
Spot on. Last year’s season was arguably the greatest in the history of college football. It’s not going to be replicated anytime soon.
Hoover isn’t Mendoza. He may not even be Rourke, but he’s still very good. We’ve won six with him, we’ve got a good shot at five more, and the CFP remains very much in play.
@kelly_32 I have emailed the forum people for months about getting this option...apparently it is not feasible.
Thank you for reading Hoosier Huddle
I would have signed up for 18 TD and 0 INT from Hoover through seven games ... in a heartbeat. True, he misses too many throws (and yes, the Marsh OOB play was on him, not #11), but he's been better than I expected, tbh. The dude was a turnover machine at TCU.
It's easy to be critical of Hoover when the last IU QB had the best season in program history ... and rarely made mistakes or missed throws. If Mendoza hadn't set an unbelievably high standard, we'd be showering Hoover with praise. As many have mentioned, 2025 spoiled us.
your first sentence was correct. Then you lumped in Coach Cig with Archie Miller and Tom Allen. How are not a troll?.Can we just move the entirety of @iugradman posts to the Clowns for Clicks thread?
Idk why the board allows trolls. But it does.
And to be clear, people can criticize all they want as long as it’s honest.
Everything I wrote is accurate and has been expressed by other posters.
False. Nice try troll.
Not being a sunshine pumper doesn’t make me a troll. You’re no different than the people on Peegs who threw a tantrum when I criticized Archie and Allen. This team has issues and if they aren’t fixed they will lose more games this season. There aren’t going to be any JMU guys on next year’s roster.
Hoover is what he is. Which is a pretty good QB. Not great but still pretty damn good. We are rolling with him the rest of the year and his accuracy issues probably won't improve. It is what it is....
What can be fixed? The offensive line needs fire lit under it's ass. That can be fixed and we have the staff to do it. The really really dumb penalties can be addressed and fixed. We have the staff to do that too. Our kicker needs to calm the fuck down and remember who he is. Yep, we have the staff for that. This staff is one of the best in the country. They have shit to work on and they will.
I'm a pretty novice football fan for someone who's been watching games for 45+ years, but I can't for the life of me figure out why we don't use our RBs and TEs more for short screens, wheel routes, etc... I've just accepted we don't, but man, I think it would help take pressure off our run game, pull defenders up to free up our WRs and could be super effective. Turbo to me has shown great hands and I think if we'd give him 4-5 opps a game, he'd break one for 30+ and TDs regularly. Missed opp to me.
I don't know. In big games our offense is always the weaker link. And I don't think it is only that the defenses are great.
Shanahan's 'simple is best', works tremendously when owning a talent edge. Less tremendously when equal, and when the opposite coaching staffs are strong too and make good plans against it. But, Saturday was a very good game from Shanny. We just didn't come through for him. And it wasn't that the plays he schemed were particularly hard to execute. Frustrating. But very nice to see some of these newer plays in the passing game. Now, just throw in a few more complicated pulls in the run game. Need to get some overloads and open some holes.
your first sentence was correct. Then you lumped in Coach Cig with Archie Miller and Tom Allen. How are not a troll?.Can we just move the entirety of @iugradman posts to the Clowns for Clicks thread?
Idk why the board allows trolls. But it does.
And to be clear, people can criticize all they want as long as it’s honest.
Everything I wrote is accurate and has been expressed by other posters.
False. Nice try troll.
Not being a sunshine pumper doesn’t make me a troll. You’re no different than the people on Peegs who threw a tantrum when I criticized Archie and Allen. This team has issues and if they aren’t fixed they will lose more games this season. There aren’t going to be any JMU guys on next year’s roster.
He is, its just OrdFan again