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@big-ryan I couldn’t agree with you more re the quality of cig. Again my point was limited to the fact that but for the new rules we would not be national champions and that includes cig.  Not having to sit out a year when you transfer and paying players changed the dynamics for a school like iu.  Let cig coach at iu ten years ago and he’s 8-4. 7-5.


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Posted : 05/29/2026 8:03 pm
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@bradstevens Still alive, been working on a new show, The divorced wives of Carmel.

You buying or selling?

I’m only buying if you’re selling prenups.

 


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@big-ryan I couldn’t agree with you more re the quality of cig. Again my point was limited to the fact that but for the new rules we would not be national champions and that includes cig.  Not having to sit out a year when you transfer and paying players changed the dynamics for a school like iu.  Let cig coach at iu ten years ago and he’s 8-4. 7-5.

I think he'd be better than that, but not 16-0 better.  His talent evalution and player development is top notch. Even without the portal, I don't see Cignetti being worse than Bill Snyder.  I'm obviously biased, though.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/29/2026 9:30 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

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@bradstevens Still alive, been working on a new show, The divorced wives of Carmel.

You buying or selling?

I’m only buying if you’re selling prenups.

 

I can handle that.  Hit me up.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/29/2026 9:31 pm
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@bradstevens he's amazing.  doubtless.  but without the portal transfer rules and money he's not coaching up kids to beat ohio state bama oregon michigan penn state miami. he'd be a top third big ten team maybe.  you can only develop and coach up so much


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Posted : 05/29/2026 9:34 pm
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Posted by: @bar-down

@bradstevens he's amazing.  doubtless.  but without the portal transfer rules and money he's not coaching up kids to beat ohio state bama oregon michigan penn state miami. he'd be a top third big ten team maybe.  you can only develop and coach up so much

I refer you to Bill Snyder.  Dude won 11 games seven times at Kansas State, when the Big 12 was a good conference. Managed to knock of Stoops 3 times (in 12 tries!).  I think Cig could do that. He'd be in the second tier, maybe most years and every once in awhile challenge for the top.  Don't forget, Gary Barnett won back to back Big Ten titles at Northwestern.  Iowa won a few.  So did Wisky.  No reason Cig wouldn't have been in that mix.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/29/2026 9:51 pm
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@jdb What in the world leads you to believe he has any skeletons in his closet? The man lives and breathes football. I don’t know what leads you to think he’s a giant prick either.  Besides the fact that so many of his players have stayed with him, his coaches have stayed with him for a truly unusual amount of time. I don’t know, but that doesn’t scream giant prick to me. Seems like the media who cover him seem to like him too. I’m pretty sure Fisch does.


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Posted : 05/29/2026 10:01 pm
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@bradstevens very well could be true


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Posted : 05/29/2026 10:04 pm
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@bradstevens very well could be true

Now admit tariffs don't cause inflation.  @snarlcakes  😀 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 05/29/2026 10:11 pm
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@bradstevens I hate him


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Posted : 05/29/2026 10:14 pm
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@bradstevens I hate him

Seems appropriate time for this vid

https://twitter.com/joeroganhq/status/2059363948168917197?s=46

 


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Posted by: @zeke4ahs

@jdb What in the world leads you to believe he has any skeletons in his closet? The man lives and breathes football. I don’t know what leads you to think he’s a giant prick either.  Besides the fact that so many of his players have stayed with him, his coaches have stayed with him for a truly unusual amount of time. I don’t know, but that doesn’t scream giant prick to me. Seems like the media who cover him seem to like him too. I’m pretty sure Fisch does.

 what? I’m confused

 


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Posted : 05/29/2026 11:03 pm
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@jdb she meant farva not you.  

@snarlcakes Cortez and that crowd sent that around today too. It’s old but admittedly funny as hell. I love Dana white. 


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@big-ryan I couldn’t agree with you more re the quality of cig. Again my point was limited to the fact that but for the new rules we would not be national champions and that includes cig.  Not having to sit out a year when you transfer and paying players changed the dynamics for a school like iu.  Let cig coach at iu ten years ago and he’s 8-4. 7-5.

 

Yes, money has been a big reason why Cig has turned this thing around really quickly, but I think there's this belief that we are going out and just buying the best of the best in the portal. 

 

The portal class with Mendoza, according to 247, we had exactly 2 kids ranked in the top 150, and then our next two highest ranked kids were Knighton, who couldn't get off the bench and the TE Staes, who came in when we used 2 TE.

 

Cig is the absolute best at getting kids who fit what he wants and trusts his eyes.  Then when they get here, they get better.  Those are two qualities that are hard to do.  

 


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Posted : 05/30/2026 7:28 am
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Yep. But remember also it’s not sitting out a year included in the new rules @boogie 


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