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Posted by: @bradstevens

In my district, this piece would be labeled racist. 

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2025-07-16/schools-students-test-scores-teachers

One thing you’ll notice is that the piece relies on national testing data.  If we eliminate DOE and don’t have a national standardized testing system to compare things, I fear states will game the system by simply making testing easier, move numbers around, etc.  to make themselves look good, despite actual results.  Illinois is in the process of doing that.  

Not OPRF!!! Standardized testing is important. And that's from a guy who only scored 16 on the ACT.

 


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Posted : 07/23/2025 10:40 pm
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Posted by: @jdb

Not OPRF!!! Standardized testing is important. And that’s from a guy who only scored 16 on the ACT.

Just got back from driving my son and a couple of his friends for a few hours. They were talking about school and I asked if any of their teachers ever discussed Trump.  All of them just laughed at me.  All three said the day after the election last year, in every single class other than study hall and PE, every one of their teachers said they weren't going to learn that day, just spend the day "processing" Trump's win and expresssing their emotions. My tax dollars--and there are a lot of them-hard at work. 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/23/2025 10:58 pm
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@noodle What's this have to do with test scores?


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Topic starter Posted : 07/23/2025 11:04 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

@noodle What's this have to do with test scores?

 

Well clearly the POTUS couldn't pass 5th grade math

 


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Posted : 07/23/2025 11:49 pm
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Posted by: @noodle

https://twitter.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/1947818543669485868?s=46&t=IOyorPOJMSpYEjVpusC1qQ

 

Brain dead would be be a 100% improvement. 

 


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Posted : 07/23/2025 11:51 pm
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Posted by: @noodle

https://twitter.com/rpsagainsttrump/status/1947818543669485868?s=46&t=IOyorPOJMSpYEjVpusC1qQ

COH needs to teach him about percentages. 

 


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Posted : 07/24/2025 8:42 am
MoHoosier
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What’s racist about this article?


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Posted : 07/24/2025 11:02 am
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Posted by: @mohoosier

What’s racist about this article?

It’s not, you’re just not allowed to talk about it, kinda like discussing why the IQ threshold for retardation was moved…

 


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Posted : 07/24/2025 4:07 pm
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Posted by: @mohoosier

What’s racist about this article?

To an anti-racist, blaming the parents is racist.  

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/24/2025 5:06 pm
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@noodle Yes. Yes he is. And I’d be willing to bet he couldn’t pass a fifth grade standardized test. 


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Posted : 07/24/2025 7:38 pm
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Posted by: @bradstevens

Posted by: @jdb

Not OPRF!!! Standardized testing is important. And that’s from a guy who only scored 16 on the ACT.

Just got back from driving my son and a couple of his friends for a few hours. They were talking about school and I asked if any of their teachers ever discussed Trump.  All of them just laughed at me.  All three said the day after the election last year, in every single class other than study hall and PE, every one of their teachers said they weren't going to learn that day, just spend the day "processing" Trump's win and expresssing their emotions. My tax dollars--and there are a lot of them-hard at work. 

Well that answers your OP question

 


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Posted : 07/24/2025 8:25 pm
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@zeke4ahs yet somehow he recognized that opening the border probably isn't a great idea.  that we can't be climate zealots and not expect it to impact the price of gas.  that we can't defund police.  that we can't just give everyone endless benefits and stay all bills and not expect prices to go up.  we could go on and on and on.  

the truth is that YOU and others in this thread just can't get past the person.  the country could thrive in every way and you'd prefer the person with a D even if that person destroys the country.  a petty, child who has policies that are far preferable will only be judged on his character and not the policies and results that impact all of us.  

it's telling and it's sad and it's probably evidence that there's really no point going forward with this board as there is no way to have actual debate.  actual discussion. it's too colored by tribal concerns and animus

biden was and is the worst president of the last half century.  what's more the dem party is the most corrupt.  from covid actions to the cover up of the condition of biden to the coronation of harris which effectively disenfranchised an entire party.  but trump....

the wc probably should have ended with the last board


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Posted : 07/24/2025 8:44 pm
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Posted by: @mcm666

@zeke4ahs yet somehow he recognized that opening the border probably isn't a great idea.  that we can't be climate zealots and not expect it to impact the price of gas.  that we can't defund police.  that we can't just give everyone endless benefits and stay all bills and not expect prices to go up.  we could go on and on and on.  

the truth is that YOU and others in this thread just can't get past the person.  the country could thrive in every way and you'd prefer the person with a D even if that person destroys the country.  a petty, child who has policies that are far preferable will only be judged on his character and not the policies and results that impact all of us.  

it's telling and it's sad and it's probably evidence that there's really no point going forward with this board as there is no way to have actual debate.  actual discussion. it's too colored by tribal concerns and animus

biden was and is the worst president of the last half century.  what's more the dem party is the most corrupt.  from covid actions to the cover up of the condition of biden to the coronation of harris which effectively disenfranchised an entire party.  but trump....

the wc probably should have ended with the last board


GIF

 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/24/2025 8:59 pm
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Posted by: @mcm666

@zeke4ahs yet somehow he recognized that opening the border probably isn't a great idea.  that we can't be climate zealots and not expect it to impact the price of gas.  that we can't defund police.  that we can't just give everyone endless benefits and stay all bills and not expect prices to go up.  we could go on and on and on.  

the truth is that YOU and others in this thread just can't get past the person.  the country could thrive in every way and you'd prefer the person with a D even if that person destroys the country.  a petty, child who has policies that are far preferable will only be judged on his character and not the policies and results that impact all of us.  

it's telling and it's sad and it's probably evidence that there's really no point going forward with this board as there is no way to have actual debate.  actual discussion. it's too colored by tribal concerns and animus

biden was and is the worst president of the last half century.  what's more the dem party is the most corrupt.  from covid actions to the cover up of the condition of biden to the coronation of harris which effectively disenfranchised an entire party.  but trump....

the wc probably should have ended with the last board


GIF

 

 


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Topic starter Posted : 07/24/2025 8:59 pm
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