A. The U.S. and it’s government doesn’t owe an altruistic duty to any other, put that crap out of your head.
B. Your America-centric view of the world is both exaggerated and woefully inadequate for explaining why some countries succeed and other fail. “They would be rich, but America removed Noriega decades ago, and things were so good under Noriega, or Saddam, or The Taliban”
You’re more MAGA populist than you know as every argument you make ultimately ends at “The powers that be want it this way and I’m powerless to change it”.
Find a sense of agency, you’re on a dark path.
A. Correct. But the world doesn't deserve the opposite from us either.
B. Of course I'm exaggerating and simplifying. This is way too limited of a forum to deep dive all of the woes of our society. I'd say "were rich" is also a gross over simplification. Not incorrect though. It's one of thousands of reasons. How much time do you have?
Your last statement...lol. I may be slightly populist. Most progressives are but MAGAs brand of populism(nativism). No.
@mrhighlife I’m not asking to discuss all our societal ills, you brought that up for some reason. What I’m saying is the reason we see so much illegal immigration and other western hemisphere countries don’t is we are stable and rich relative to the rest. That’s not an oversimplification, it’s the truth.
And those countries relative poverty and instability are not due to exploitation to any significant degree. Free commerce is inherently non-exploitative. It’s a relationship entered into by the willing.
Why? Because both Republicans and Dems politicians are rich fucks with rich CEO fuck friends and they enjoy the cheap labor. Including Trump, which is why he excluded farm and hospitality laborers from what's happening now.
This is not a genuine way to look at the problem. If we deport or limit any immigrants, who is going to do the jobs that nobody (white, black or otherwise) wants to do? I'm talking about roofing, berry picking and manual farm labor, janitorial jobs... We don't have a willing population to do those jobs for a reasonable price unless everyone wants to experience significant inflation in those services. These things can't be automated away like a machining job.
Genuine question. Have you ever read an Austrian economics book? Or Sowell?
LOL at anyone asking JDB if he's read any economics.
@mrhighlife solve “why?” People are coming here? Because we’re rich and they’re poor. That’s why. What’s your plan? Make every country rich?
It discriminated on nation of origin, not race. We should definitely discriminate on nation of origin.
we are rich. So we should create policies that help other countries. Create trade agreements that help them stand on their own. Instead we exploit them, depose their leaders and then drop bombs on their heads. Then we wonder "derrrrp. Why are they coming here? Derrrrpppp"
Everyone knows why people are coming here. Perhaps you can explain why so many more came while the Dems were most recently in charge but aren’t now?
Why? Because both Republicans and Dems politicians are rich fucks with rich CEO fuck friends and they enjoy the cheap labor. Including Trump, which is why he excluded farm and hospitality laborers from what's happening now.
This is not a genuine way to look at the problem. If we deport or limit any immigrants, who is going to do the jobs that nobody (white, black or otherwise) wants to do? I'm talking about roofing, berry picking and manual farm labor, janitorial jobs... We don't have a willing population to do those jobs for a reasonable price unless everyone wants to experience significant inflation in those services. These things can't be automated away like a machining job.
The exact opposite has happened by the way.I asked the question because you don't understand basic economics. You've been taught pseudoscience and fell for it. The notion that people won't do low skilled jobs is nonsense. It's also complete rubbish that cutting off/back immigration and deporting people will cause inflation.
Why? Because both Republicans and Dems politicians are rich fucks with rich CEO fuck friends and they enjoy the cheap labor. Including Trump, which is why he excluded farm and hospitality laborers from what's happening now.
This is not a genuine way to look at the problem. If we deport or limit any immigrants, who is going to do the jobs that nobody (white, black or otherwise) wants to do? I'm talking about roofing, berry picking and manual farm labor, janitorial jobs... We don't have a willing population to do those jobs for a reasonable price unless everyone wants to experience significant inflation in those services. These things can't be automated away like a machining job.
The exact opposite has happened by the way.I asked the question because you don't understand basic economics. You've been taught pseudoscience and fell for it. The notion that people won't do low skilled jobs is nonsense. It's also complete rubbish that cutting off/back immigration and deporting people will cause inflation.
It may be rubbish. Weren’t you fired as an elementary school teacher and hired as a playground monitor, or something like that? That would be good evidence that a white anti-immigration (all immigration, not just the illegal kind we Republicans are against) male is willing to do those menial jobs. Good on you! 😉
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@mrhighlife solve “why?” People are coming here? Because we’re rich and they’re poor. That’s why. What’s your plan? Make every country rich?
It discriminated on nation of origin, not race. We should definitely discriminate on nation of origin.
we are rich. So we should create policies that help other countries. Create trade agreements that help them stand on their own. Instead we exploit them, depose their leaders and then drop bombs on their heads. Then we wonder "derrrrp. Why are they coming here? Derrrrpppp"
Everyone knows why people are coming here. Perhaps you can explain why so many more came while the Dems were most recently in charge but aren’t now?
Why? Because both Republicans and Dems politicians are rich fucks with rich CEO fuck friends and they enjoy the cheap labor. Including Trump, which is why he excluded farm and hospitality laborers from what's happening now.
This is not a genuine way to look at the problem. If we deport or limit any immigrants, who is going to do the jobs that nobody (white, black or otherwise) wants to do? I'm talking about roofing, berry picking and manual farm labor, janitorial jobs... We don't have a willing population to do those jobs for a reasonable price unless everyone wants to experience significant inflation in those services. These things can't be automated away like a machining job.
The exact opposite has happened by the way.I asked the question because you don't understand basic economics. You've been taught pseudoscience and fell for it. The notion that people won't do low skilled jobs is nonsense. It's also complete rubbish that cutting off/back immigration and deporting people will cause inflation.
Is Trump the greatest child rapist ever when it comes the to economy?
@aloha-hoosier hit me up when you want tutoring for fractions. I have time. The only guy to do it better.
No worries. I’ve done Trig, advanced Calculus, Linear Algebra and several statistic classes at the undergraduate level and graduate level so if you need a tutorial let me know. I’m sure I have someone that worked for me within a hundred miles that would help you out for the right price. Dolt.
