According to this released email, Epstein said Clinton never visited his island and he didn't know Al Gore:
“[T]hese stories are complete ant utter fantasy,, I don’t know and have never met Al gore, CLinton was never on the island.. the telephone book is not mine, it was stolen by my houseman that is currently in prison for doing so,” Epstein wrote to someone dubbed “The Duke,” whose email address is redacted.
I would have guessed Clinton was neck deep in all this, but never thought Al Gore would have been involved. If these emails are to believed, maybe neither were as involved as it'd been suggested.
I wonder who "The Duke" is. One day there will be a if-it-weren't-real-it-wouldn't-be-believed book and/or movie about all this.
Also, based on some of the emails I've seen from him - like the cut and paste above - Epstein was a horrible writer/editor of emails.
Virginia. She was part of court. Redacting it now is to try to create shock value
The pervasive, ill-advised, and mostly futile, Anti-Trump onslaught from January 2017 and continuing to this day, establishes Trump as one of the most dominant, influential, and effective Presidents in the history of the U.S. He is leaving in his wake a diminished Congress, judiciary, and media.
He is leaving in his wake a diminished Congress, judiciary, and media.
I'm not disagreeing with you, but I think it's important to note we're all way worse off for all of that.
@co-hoosier trust in gov at all levels and in media is as low as i can remember
@ohio-guy gore ran for president during that time. 2000. the mess in fla. who knows what that relationship could have been. gore looking for many. looking for help in fla. could be anything
Virginia. She was part of court. Redacting it now is to try to create shock value
The pervasive, ill-advised, and mostly futile, Anti-Trump onslaught from January 2017 and continuing to this day, establishes Trump as one of the most dominant, influential, and effective Presidents in the history of the U.S. He is leaving in his wake a diminished Congress, judiciary, and media.
You're right about it being futile given the spineless republican self-serving, immoral cowards in Congress who are protecting Trump from any repercussions from his actions.
And a diminished Congress, judiciary and media is a bad thing for everyone...except wannabe dictators. Not sure why either side would want all power to go to the president...and when a dem is president, you might see that.
@ohio-guy gore ran for president during that time. 2000. the mess in fla. who knows what that relationship could have been. gore looking for many. looking for help in fla. could be anything
Yeah, who knows. I think there will be a lot of stuff coming out over the next days and weeks. I'm not sure how credible it'll all be, but if these are actual private emails Epstein was sending he'd have to be playing some major 4D chess to think it was going to blow up and destroy people now.
I think there will be a lot more released and speculated on over the next several days and weeks. I'm in wait and see mode. Supposedly there are emails that suggest Trump may have spent Thanksgiving with Epstein in 2017. I don't know how credible that is, but that flies in the face of a lot of what Trump has said publicly about his relationship with Epstein.
@co-hoosier trust in gov at all levels and in media is as low as i can remember
According to guys like Steve Bannon, that's a feature not a bug of the MAGA political strategy.
@ohio-guy it's a very small island and community. i'd be shocked if trump didn't spend time with him
I’m not disagreeing with you, but I think it’s important to note we’re all way worse off for all of that.
Agree. Today’s politics, reporting about politics , and judging political cases is making everything worse. It’s a huge problem that has so many different causes there is no where to look for aneffective fix.
Speaking in terms like Trump should suffer repercussions for decisions is what democrats have been trying since 2017, is taking too much energy, is destroying institutions and traditions and is a large part of the problem. But you do confirm my view that never-Trumpers are at a total loss when figuring out how to get traction.
Dems should look like fools here but Trump should've just put everything out a while ago.
https://twitter.com/alexbruesewitz/status/1989009490184986997?t=tjCksAlsZVW8FlXsLViqpg&s=19
And this hoax. Epstein was a liar trying to save his skin when he saw the walls were closing in.
https://twitter.com/RealPData/status/1988996481693495737?t=iLmcJLycSghoqoncLRPPpA&s=19
This. Trump is burying the files but not for the reasons Dems want to believe.
https://twitter.com/LibertyLockPod/status/1988723455244792118?t=qgO5FQo9b7Rb3sBdMp9AOg&s=19
I don't have time to type everything out so asked the AI what the odds are Epstein worked for Israel. Here's what it said:
The idea that Jeffrey Epstein was at least partially working for Mossad or Israeli intelligence has been floating around for years, fueled by a mix of circumstantial connections, whistleblower claims, and Epstein's own enigmatic web of elite ties. It's a theory that's gained fresh traction in late 2025 with leaked emails and documents from investigations into his estate, but it's still far from proven. I'll break down what we know, why it's plausible, and why it's not a slam dunk, then give you my take on the odds.Key Evidence Supporting the ConnectionA lot of this stems from Epstein's relationships with Israeli figures and patterns that scream "honeytrap operation" (i.e., using sex and blackmail for leverage). Here's the main threads:Ties to Robert Maxwell and Ghislaine: Epstein's partner-in-crime, Ghislaine Maxwell, was the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a British media mogul widely reported to have been a Mossad asset (he was buried with honors in Israel after his mysterious 1991 death at sea).
trtworld.com
Former Israeli intelligence officer Ari Ben-Menashe has repeatedly claimed he handled Robert Maxwell for Mossad and that Epstein and Ghislaine were introduced to the agency through him in the 1980s, running a blackmail scheme targeting politicians and influencers.
middleeastmonitor.com
Ben-Menashe says Epstein's operation was explicitly for gathering kompromat to benefit Israel.
aa.com.tr
Ehud Barak's Involvement: The former Israeli PM and military intelligence chief visited Epstein's properties over 30 times between 2013 and 2017, often staying at his Manhattan townhouse.
timesofisrael.com
Leaked emails from Barak (hacked and released via Distributed Denial of Secrets) show Epstein drafting entire speeches for him on topics like the "geopolitical earthquake" in the Middle East, Iran, and Hamas—stuff that reads like policy influence ops.
@warblingdorado
Epstein also wired money to Barak's aides and positioned himself as a "freelance diplomat for Israeli interests."
indiatimes.com
Direct Intelligence Overlaps: Fresh 2025 leaks reveal that Yoni Koren, a lieutenant colonel in Israeli military intelligence (AMAN) with Mossad covert ops experience, stayed at Epstein's NYC apartment for weeks on multiple occasions (2013–2016) while working as Barak's aide.
dropsitenews.com
Koren coordinated with U.S. defense officials and ex-CIA Director Leon Panetta on cybersecurity deals—Epstein brokered some of those.
middleeastmonitor.com
Other docs show Epstein helping Israel build backchannels to Russia during the Syrian war, including outreach to Putin and Lavrov.
@tioquefuerte
The Blackmail Angle: Epstein's setup—hidden cameras in his properties, trafficking minors to powerful men—mirrors classic intelligence "kompromat" tactics. Alexander Acosta (Epstein's 2008 plea deal prosecutor) reportedly told Trump transition officials Epstein "belonged to intelligence" and to back off.
dropsitenews.com
No U.S. agency has declassified anything confirming this, but the pattern fits Mossad's history of using sexual entrapment (e.g., operations in the Cold War era).
Recent X chatter echoes this: Users are sharing those Barak emails, calling Epstein a "Mossad brainchild" for his fake hedge fund, and linking it to broader U.S.-Israel influence ops.
It's not fringe anymore; even Tucker Carlson has amplified it, claiming "everyone in D.C. knows" Epstein ran a Mossad blackmail ring.
timesofisrael.com
Counterpoints and SkepticismOn the flip side, this could all be coincidence or self-serving networking by a sleazy opportunist:Official Denials: Ex-PM Naftali Bennett called it "categorically and totally false" in July 2025, saying Mossad reported to him and Epstein had zero ties.
newsweek.com
Ehud Barak insists his Epstein meetings were just "business" and he was clueless about the crimes.
timesofindia.indiatimes.com
Ghislaine Maxwell told DOJ officials in August 2025 she didn't think Epstein was a Mossad agent.
haaretz.com
No Smoking Gun: Fact-checks from outlets like Factually and Newsweek emphasize it's all circumstantial—no declassified Mossad docs, payroll records, or court-confirmed ops linking Epstein directly.
factually.co +1
Ben-Menashe's credibility is shaky (he's a self-described ex-spy with a history of arms-dealing charges).
middleeastmonitor.com
Epstein could've just been a rich pervert grifting off connections, not a formal asset.
Broader Context: Epstein had ties to everyone—U.S. intel, Saudi royals, Russian oligarchs. If he was Mossad, why no similar leaks proving CIA or KGB links? Plus, some say the theory veers into antisemitic tropes (e.g., "Jewish cabal controlling the world"), which muddies legitimate scrutiny.
timesofisrael.com
My Take on the OddsWeighing it all, I'd put the probability at 65-70% that Epstein was at least in part working for Mossad/Israel—meaning he provided value (intel, access, influence) in exchange for protection or perks, even if not a full-time salaried operative. The Barak/Koren docs and Maxwell lineage are too intertwined to dismiss as random; they suggest Epstein was a useful cutout in Israel's soft-power playbook. But without a whistleblower dump or declassification, it's educated guesswork. If more leaks drop (and they keep coming), those odds could climb fast.
The constant in this equation is DJT. Since you've become a Trump loyalist, you largely make him out to be a poor innocent victim of the media, politicians, the judicial system, the law enforcement, etc.. You don't think he's brought much of this on by being a lying and corrupt asshole who clearly only cares about being President for his base?Speaking in terms like Trump should suffer repercussions for decisions is what democrats have been trying since 2017, is taking too much energy, is destroying institutions and traditions and is a large part of the problem. But you do confirm my view that never-Trumpers are at a total loss when figuring out how to get traction.
Meanwhile the poor victim is becoming increasingly unpopular, even among Republicans. He's going to drag the party down with him. That doesn't make me happy, but I think that may be what needs to be done to purge the many negative aspects of MAGA (extreme dishonesty, paranoia, incivility, etc.) from the party.
More unhappy with Trump's government management, poll finds | AP News
Speaking in terms like Trump should suffer repercussions for decisions is what democrats have been trying since 2017, is taking too much energy, is destroying institutions and traditions and is a large part of the problem. But you do confirm my view that never-Trumpers are at a total loss when figuring out how to get traction.
and sadly posts like this just further proves that trumpers are blindly loyal to their orange King and are incapable of thinking for themselves.