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CO. Hoosier
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these are not deep thinkers

Right.  We aren’t talking about Mensa level thinkers here.  At the root of the Democrats and democrat socialists ideology is a sense of entitlement not a sense of earned economic and social benefits.  


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Posted : 08/15/2026 11:14 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier
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@goat 

Isn't this bassackwards?  Europe didn’t colonize to spread slavery, slavery provided labor to colonists just as boats provided transport.  I think the present day hatred of colonization is rooted in cultural destruction and racism. And FWIW, vastly overplayed.  

Is colonization about protecting and maintaining a culture or a practice of domination, which involves the subjugation of one people to another?

 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 11:24 am
CO. Hoosier
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@hoot 

I don’t think it’s an  “either” “or” question.  Colonization came for a myriad of reasons and combinations of reasons.  Some of them highly moralistic and others deeply exploitative.  


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Posted : 08/15/2026 11:35 am
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Posted by: @co-hoosier
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 CO. Hoosier

I don’t think it’s an  “either” “or” question.  Colonization came for a myriad of reasons and combinations of reasons.  Some of them highly moralistic and others deeply exploitative.  

How about theocracies which are both highly moralistic and deeply exploitive?

 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 12:05 pm
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People have been killing & enslaving other people and taking their land since the beginning of time. The idea that it's only been western whites is perhaps the most ignorant viewpoint a person could have.  


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Posted : 08/15/2026 12:11 pm
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Posted by: @hooky
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People have been killing & enslaving other people and taking their land since the beginning of time. The idea that it's only been western whites is perhaps the most ignorant viewpoint a person could have.  

Ironically, it is the most ignorant, provincial, and kinda racist viewpoint out there.  

 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 12:14 pm
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Posted by: @hooky
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People have been killing & enslaving other people and taking their land since the beginning of time. The idea that it's only been western whites is perhaps the most ignorant viewpoint a person could have.  

Ironically, it is the most ignorant, provincial, and kinda racist viewpoint out there.  

 BradStevens

Without a doubt the Western white slave owners believed they were helping the slaves. 

In my view, this falls more along the lines of bigotry than racism. Bigotry being the belief you are superior to others. 

 

 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 12:26 pm
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@hoot 

Examples?  


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Posted : 08/15/2026 12:46 pm
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@co-hoosier 

One example of bigotry would be Alexander H. Stephens, the Vice President of the Confederate States of America and a major plantation owner, who gave his infamous Cornerstone Speech in 1861. 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 1:17 pm
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Posted by: @co-hoosier
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@goat 

Isn't this bassackwards?  Europe didn’t colonize to spread slavery, slavery provided labor to colonists just as boats provided transport.  I think the present day hatred of colonization is rooted in cultural destruction and racism. And FWIW, vastly overplayed.  

I'm sorry, what?

 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 2:27 pm
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@goat 

There's no sense in even trying anymore. 


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Posted : 08/15/2026 2:43 pm
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Posted by: @hooky
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People have been killing & enslaving other people and taking their land since the beginning of time. The idea that it's only been western whites is perhaps the most ignorant viewpoint a person could have.  

Ironically, it is the most ignorant, provincial, and kinda racist viewpoint out there.  

 BradStevens

Without a doubt the Western white slave owners believed they were helping the slaves. 

In my view, this falls more along the lines of bigotry than racism. Bigotry being the belief you are superior to others. 

 

 

Absolutely, hoot.  I think some small % of white slave owners thought they were helping. The psychological need to think they were helping probably comes from Christian ideology.  I think most had cognitive dissonance over it, and understood the hypocrisy of claiming to be a Christian and a owning human beings at the same time. Quite a few didn't care, too, because of that bigotry.  

But I was actually referring to the current notion that slavery is peculiar to white people of the West. That opinion is ignorant, provincial, and kinda racist.  The slave owners held opinions that were really racist, to be sure, but for a certain time, they were not historically or scientifically ignorant, although clearly morally inconsistent.  

 


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Posted : 08/16/2026 2:42 pm
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Remember when this guy was considered a public intellectual and serious scholar?  I do.  I'm guessing his crap is still taught in public schools, too:

 

https://twitter.com/ibramxk/status/2088713805895540850?s=20


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Posted : 08/16/2026 2:45 pm
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BradStevens
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. . . and of course, McWhorter nails it:

https://twitter.com/JohnHMcWhorter/status/2088820877718679845?s=20


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Posted : 08/16/2026 2:50 pm
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https://twitter.com/Matt_Calkins/status/2090483833057751064


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