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If Trump was the true shitposting genius McM hails him to be, he'd immediately post something warning expectant mothers not to drink bleach while pregnant.


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Posted : 09/24/2025 10:41 am
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Posted by: @mattndallas

If Trump was the true shitposting genius McM hails him to be, he'd immediately post something warning expectant mothers not to drink bleach while pregnant.

He's the master troll.  Did you see what just went up at the WH? 😂

https://twitter.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1970900335997878584?t=x_q6Dv_ApOA0EHWlmgPHCQ&s=19

 


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Posted : 09/24/2025 2:24 pm
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If Trump thinks Tylenol is bad for kids, wait until he hears about AR-15s and about Palm Beach pedophiles.


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 09/24/2025 3:14 pm
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Posted by: @vanpastorman

Something has to be causing this surge in Autism in children. We have to figure it out

Agree, but the tylenol hypothesis is the opposite of figuring it out.

Think about it... we have had an upward surge in autism spectrum disorder diagnoses since 2000, a time period in which Tylenol use by pregnant women has gone down by 24%. 

Read that again...

SO...Taking less tylenol correlates with more autism, and so tylenol must be causing autism?  Really? That's brain worm logic.

another thing...

We know why the raw data in some studies showed more health problems for babies whose pregnant mothers took lots of tylenol.  It's because they didn't just decide to take it for no reason, they took it because they were sick, had a high fever, or had severe pain, all conditions which can negatively affect a fetus. These are also conditions (especially the pain issue) that are more commonly experienced by autistic mothers-to-be than by non autistic mothers-to-be. The former is more likely to have an autistic baby, since tons of evidence align to prove that there is a genetic component to autism spectrum disorder.

The sibling study in Sweden should convince everybody.  Thousands of mothers among 2.5 Million studied were found who had given birth to than one kid in a pregnancy where she took tylenol, while in at least one other pregnancy she did not take tylenol.  The rates of autism spectrum disorder and other neurological problems was EXACTLY THE SAME in the no-tylenol and tylenol babies from those mothers. They would never have figured this out without a sibling control group.

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 09/24/2025 4:39 pm
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Anyone else old enough to remember when presidents at least went through the motions of acting presidential every now and then?


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Posted : 09/24/2025 6:04 pm
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Posted by: @bulk-vh

Anyone else old enough to remember when presidents at least went through the motions of acting presidential every now and then?

 

By "Presidential" do you mean?

 

Grinning, while banging Hollywood starlets, frumpy cig lovers, or your trans wife in the White House?

 

or,

 

Bombing the shit out of any brown country in the Middle East, sending patriotic kids to get their limbs blown off, while enriching your Texas oil buddies and defense contractors?

 

OR

 

Letting an autopen and shitlibs use you as a puppet, while your kid does lines in a back room, and a cackling hyena DEI hire forced upon you argues with your babysitter/wife about who gets to point you in the right direction?

 


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Posted : 09/24/2025 6:23 pm
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Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @mattndallas

If Trump was the true shitposting genius McM hails him to be, he'd immediately post something warning expectant mothers not to drink bleach while pregnant.

He's the master troll.  Did you see what just went up at the WH? 😂

https://twitter.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1970900335997878584?t=x_q6Dv_ApOA0EHWlmgPHCQ&s=19

 

That's undeniably funny, but it still demeans the office. The leader of the free world shouldn't behave like that.

 


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Topic starter Posted : 09/24/2025 6:28 pm
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Posted by: @mattndallas

Posted by: @bulk-vh

Anyone else old enough to remember when presidents at least went through the motions of acting presidential every now and then?

 

By "Presidential" do you mean?

 

Grinning, while banging Hollywood starlets, frumpy cig lovers, or your trans wife in the White House?

 

or,

 

Bombing the shit out of any brown country in the Middle East, sending patriotic kids to get their limbs blown off, while enriching your Texas oil buddies and defense contractors?

 

OR

 

Letting an autopen and shitlibs use you as a puppet, while your kid does lines in a back room, and a cackling hyena DEI hire forced upon you argues with your babysitter/wife about who gets to point you in the right direction?

 

Sorry,  junior…you’re too young.

 


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Posted : 09/24/2025 7:08 pm
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@mattndallas Hoo ah


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Posted : 09/24/2025 7:10 pm
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Posted by: @goat

Posted by: @dbmhoosier

Posted by: @mattndallas

If Trump was the true shitposting genius McM hails him to be, he'd immediately post something warning expectant mothers not to drink bleach while pregnant.

He's the master troll.  Did you see what just went up at the WH? 😂

https://twitter.com/FLVoiceNews/status/1970900335997878584?t=x_q6Dv_ApOA0EHWlmgPHCQ&s=19

 

That's undeniably funny, but it still demeans the office. The leader of the free world shouldn't behave like that.

 

You're absolutely right, but Trump banks on politics being entertainment of a different sort.  If you entertain people, they like you. If they like you, they vote for you.  It's worked for him.  

 


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Posted : 09/24/2025 9:22 pm
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Posted by: @shooter

We know why the raw data in some studies showed more health problems for babies whose pregnant mothers took lots of tylenol.  It’s because they didn’t just decide to take it for no reason, they took it because they were sick, had a high fever, or had severe pain, all conditions which can negatively affect a fetus.

Some researchers think it is more likely the mother's immune response to infection than the fever that is the problem. The fever is just a signal that the immune system is in overdrive.  

https://www.thetransmitter.org/spectrum/autism-risk-climbs-number-fevers-pregnancy/

Immune effect:

Another study from the same group, published last week in mSphere, found that women with laboratory-confirmed influenza during pregnancy are no more likely than those without the infection to have a child with autism2. But women who actually had flu-like symptoms, such as fever, nearly double their risk of having a child with autism, supporting the general idea that inflammatory processes drive the risk, Hornig says. The increase is not statistically significant, but should not be ignored, the team says.

“Although chance may explain our findings, the magnitude of the potential association may be of biological importance,” the researchers write in the paper.

Fever increases the production of white blood cells, which release certain molecules, called cytokines, to fight infections. Mouse studies suggest these molecules can pass into the bloodstream of the fetus through the placenta, and ultimately alter the expression of genes associated with autism in the developing brain.

Persistent fevers may cause cytokines to build up, compounding the risk of autism, Hornig says.

“A transient fever that comes and goes quickly perhaps doesn’t have as much risk as something that is happening frequently and causing these molecules to increase or perhaps accumulate over many weeks,” she says.

The effects of fever also may depend on the genetic makeup of the mother, Hornig says. “Some women have an immune response that fails to come back down again after it’s done its work,” she says. “There may be genetic factors on the fetus side as well.”


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Posted : 09/24/2025 9:55 pm
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The best version of Tylenol is Tylenol Rapid Release the Epstein files.


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 09/24/2025 10:28 pm
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One of the studies in the meta analysis:

 

  • Mothers who took the pain reliever for more than 28 days for one of their pregnancies saw a twofold increase in the risk that their baby would have A.D.H.D. But mothers who took the pain reliever for one to seven days during pregnancy actually saw a lowered risk of such problems in their babies compared with siblings who were not exposed to acetaminophen at all.

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/05/health/autism-acetaminophen-tylenol.html

And if you didn't read the Politico story, it is pretty good and presents a good case for concern. The bottom line seems to be for fever and more severe pain, talk to your doc and take Tylenol. The minimum needed for as short as needed. For nuisance pain, try rest, ice, etc. 

Even if what is said on the report is true, it doesn't seem plausible acetaminophen use is the major driver in the growth of the disorder. Our rates are not that much higher than countries where acetaminophen is outlawed (I put the comparison to Saudi Arabia earlier in the thread). 


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Posted : 09/25/2025 7:41 am
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The most logical way for acetaminophen to ever cause problems if if you were to build up high concentrations of the metabolite N-acetyl-p-benzoquinone imine (NAPI), which then is reactive towards glutathione, a natural antioxidant.  So with long term and very high dose use you could theoretically deplete glutathione and be susceptible to oxidative stress.

But...

NAPI is a very MINOR metabolite of acetaminophen (5% or less), and glutathione reserves in humans are enormous- your cells have millimolar levels and it would be very hard to make a dent in that.

So a problem, if it exists would logically be among people

1) taking it chronically rather than acutely,

2) at higher doses than recommended, AND

3) with some sort of genetic defect thwarting normal acetaminophen metabolism (driven by glucuronide or sulfate conjugation) and/or major genetic deficits in glutathione production.

So it wouldn't be a general phenomenon at all. 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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