@aloha-hoosier I just pray to God there's no horrific security breach during this time. ICE agents have no training in aviation security and passenger and luggage screening. If they're actually involved in screening, that's a major security risk.
SO ICE can't simply hire the people who look at the x-ray screen? I mean, it would take a monkey about 20 minutes to learn it anyway.
Lord knows we can't expect just anyone to step in and do the job of our highly specialized and skilled TSA agents.
Not just anyone can have a surly attitude and give you different, conflicting instructions every time you through the line. DHS audits have found that prohibited items get through 80-95% of the time. How can ICE be expected to compete with those numbers?
True.. all they have to do is murder someone for having too big of a shampoo bottle and everyone will start searching their own bags before getting in the line.
I’m certainly not making the case that Congress, the President, Vice President and all political appointees be replaced by business executives. We don’t need or want an oligarchy, which is what Russia has. It’s one of the most corrupt countries on earth.You’re making a reasonable case for privatizing TSA. You’re making an even better case for firing all of our politicians and putting business executives in charge of our government.When TSA was formed after 9/11, there was a big debate about whether TSA Security agents should be contracted personnel or federal employees. Most Republicans, like me, were for contracted personnel. Most Democrats wanted them to be federal employees. Lots of reasons for each side I suppose but I saw no reason to increase the federal workforce for this task, and we now have another reason which was foreseen then but not talked about as much - government shutdown chaos. If these people were contracted personnel, they'd still be on the job. The money for the entire fiscal year to employ them would have been obligated already and they wouldn't miss a day of pay and have no incentive to go on leave in large numbers (or quit) like these TSA Federal employees do. In fact, they'd have the opposite incentive - go to work, because it's pretty easy to fire and replace contracted personnel.
I'm amazed there are still this many TSA agents showing up for work after missing yet another check.
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I'm amazed there are still this many TSA agents showing up for work after missing yet another check.
They know they'll get it all back eventually. It will be like a big tax refund check.
Although not guaranteed by law, they will with almost 100 percent certainly get all their backpay. However, these aren't the highest paid jobs and some are working paycheck to paycheck. Over 400 quit because they can't live with this kind of uncertainty about pay which has happened twice in the past year now.I'm amazed there are still this many TSA agents showing up for work after missing yet another check.
They know they'll get it all back eventually. It will be like a big tax refund check.
If I were a bank CEO I would announce a policy to grant very low/ no interest loans to any and all TSA agents. Money to tide them over in the magnitude of their missed paychecks, since it is indeed certain that when this is over they will get back pay. Maybe with interest added on. It would be huge good publicity for the bank.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
They haven't gotten any interest on backpay in their past. I don't believe there is a provision in the law that allows it. That would have to be included in any deal to stop the partial shutdown.If I were a bank CEO I would announce a policy to grant very low/ no interest loans to any and all TSA agents. Money to tide them over in the magnitude of their missed paychecks, since it is indeed certain that when this is over they will get back pay. Maybe with interest added on. It would be huge good publicity for the bank.
I'm amazed there are still this many TSA agents showing up for work after missing yet another check.
They know they'll get it all back eventually. It will be like a big tax refund check.
Can't imagine many of these folks have money put aside to weather a financial storm like this. It looks like the salary band is $34-48K.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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I'm amazed there are still this many TSA agents showing up for work after missing yet another check.
They know they'll get it all back eventually. It will be like a big tax refund check.
Can't imagine many of these folks have money put aside to weather a financial storm like this. It looks like the salary band is $34-48K.
Credit card sharks are going to make a killing on the vig.
After this is over, Congress needs to start the process to privatize the entire TSA Security Workforce. They'll save a lot of money in the long run and will reduce the chances of chaos for flying during government shutdown to essentially zero.I'm amazed there are still this many TSA agents showing up for work after missing yet another check.
They know they'll get it all back eventually. It will be like a big tax refund check.
Can't imagine many of these folks have money put aside to weather a financial storm like this. It looks like the salary band is $34-48K.
After this is over, Congress needs to start the process to privatize the entire TSA Security Workforce. They'll save a lot of money in the long run and will reduce the chances of chaos for flying during government shutdown to essentially zero.
I agree, but that's not going to happen. The idea of privatizing anything creates a large group of pro-government drones who gnash their teeth and shriek about the evils of capitalism and that's just in Congress.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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Two items to note:
1) Some airports already do have a privatized system already (for example, San Francisco Airport uses Covenant Aviation Security).
2) Privatizing TSA is actually an item in the Project 2025 playbook. They can't do it while TSA is unionized, so there has been speculation that this whole fiasco has been part of a plan (or at least, maybe a happy coincidence).
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/2036115769231090125?s=20
Can't blame TSA shutdown on the dems anymore.
Isn't ICE already funded independently of this DHS funding bill?
I haven't seen anything definite, but I've seen people on Twitter say (they're never wrong by the way, right?) that they are funded until 2028 or maybe through 28, I don't remember.
Could be completely wrong, I have no idea.
ICE was given billions upon billions in the Big Bill. Everything else under DHS is running out of money.
There is only 1 reason the Democrats would vote not to fund DHS….Trump. That’s it. No other reason
There is only 1 reason the Democrats would vote not to fund DHS….
The ICE secret police, out of control and terrorizing American citizens, going way, way, WAY beyond the election mandate of finding and deporting criminal illegals.
That’s it. No other reason.
"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451
https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/2036115769231090125?s=20
Can't blame TSA shutdown on the dems anymore.
Isn't ICE already funded independently of this DHS funding bill?
I haven't seen anything definite, but I've seen people on Twitter say (they're never wrong by the way, right?) that they are funded until 2028 or maybe through 28, I don't remember.
Could be completely wrong, I have no idea.
ICE was given billions upon billions in the Big Bill. Everything else under DHS is running out of money.
There is only 1 reason the Democrats would vote not to fund DHS….Trump. That’s it. No other reason
Why does ICE need more money when in the BBB, they are already given a shit ton of money?
75 billion though 2029 isn't enough?