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Aloha Hoosier's avatar
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Racking up the kills. Blew up four more boats and killed all but one person. Mexico saved the shipwrecked individual. I've heard some claim blowing them up is more effective than our traditional methods and that's false. 

No, the US is not stopping more drugs by "blowing them up" (referring to the controversial policy of using military force to sink suspected drug boats at sea) than by traditional interdiction methods. The vast majority of drug seizures still occur through traditional law enforcement methods like inspections at ports of entry, arrests, and seizures by the Coast Guard. [1, 2, 3]

 

Comparison of Methods
  • Traditional Interdiction (e.g., Coast Guard boarding, port inspections): This method involves tracking, intercepting, boarding vessels, seizing drugs, and arresting crews for prosecution. U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) and the Coast Guard seize vast quantities of drugs this way. For example, one U.S. Coast Guard cutter seized 38 tons of drugs in a single two-month patrol, and the service as a whole set a record for cocaine seizures in a single year using this approach. This method also yields valuable intelligence from the captured crews, which aids in targeting cartels and trafficking networks.
  • Military Strikes ("Blowing them up"): This is a more recent and controversial shift in policy that began under the Trump administration, where the military has used force to destroy suspected drug boats, sometimes killing those on board. Experts and veterans of the drug war argue this lethal approach is less effective than traditional means for several reasons:
    • The quantities destroyed in these strikes are a tiny fraction of the total drugs seized through other methods.
    • It removes the opportunity to gather intelligence from captured suspects.
    • Drug organizations simply adapt their routes and methods to account for such losses, which have limited to no deterrent effect on the overall drug trade.
    • Each missile strike is often more costly than the street value of the drugs on the vessel. [1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8]
Ultimately, statistics show that the record-breaking seizures reported in recent years have largely been the result of increased resources, better technology, and traditional interdiction efforts, not the policy of using lethal military force against suspected drug boats. [9]

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Topic starter Posted : 12/10/2025 10:09 pm
OneEyedUndertaker
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Posted by: @shooter

Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

I’d like to thank them for making the world a better place.  

Did Trump pardoning the guy (Juan Orlando Hernández) found responsible in court for trafficking over 400 tons of cocaine to the USA (yes, that's right, over 400 TONS) make the world a better place?  Inquiring minds want to know.

 

https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IN12621

 

Depends what he does now.  If he goes back to being a drug kingpin, no.

 


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Posted : 12/11/2025 8:48 am
Shooter
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Posted by: @oneeyedundertaker

Depends what he does now.  If he goes back to being a drug kingpin, no.

 

You give him a free pass on peddling 400 tons of cocaine, equivalent to approximately 4.5 billion individual doses? 

 

 


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 12/11/2025 12:03 pm
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Posted by: @unclemark

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Actually, Gilligan is more stupid than you think.

What variety of douchbag tells a poster that he's compiling a file to be submitted to the Fed regarding board comments?

Wait... what???

 

Ask your little buddy about it....

 


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Posted : 12/11/2025 2:40 pm
Shooter
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Juan Orlando Hernández helped traffick so much cocaine to the USA that you can be sure that several warehouses are stocked to the rafters and the cocaine will be doled out, poisoning your kids and grandkids today, tomorrow, and every day for decades to come. But if he promises to buy some Trump bitcoin with all that drug money, then he's all good!


"You can't make someone listen to reason if they aren't willing to think"-- Ray Bradbury, Fahrenheit 451

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Posted : 12/11/2025 2:50 pm
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Posted by: @qparker

Posted by: @unclemark

Posted by: @qparker

Actually, Gilligan is more stupid than you think.

What variety of douchbag tells a poster that he's compiling a file to be submitted to the Fed regarding board comments?

Wait... what???

 

Ask your little buddy about it....

 

LOL! What kind of paranoid unintelligent douchebag would believe it? However, if there was going to be a file on someone it should be on our resident Russian propagandist . . .

 


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Topic starter Posted : 12/11/2025 2:51 pm
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Not good for Trump and Hegseth - ADM Holsey is offering to testify publicly on the boat strikes and whether he and his JAG officers thought they were legal and whether orders to strike them were lawful. I don't know if the JAG memos themselves will be leaked (probably not because the military doesn't leak like Congress does), but I can see that they'll eventually be requested by Congress. If either the Senate or House flips, I'm certain they will be. If enough Republicans had any backbone to conduct a real investigation and find the truth, we'd be seeing all this before the next election because that is unquestionably the right thing to do.


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