*sigh* Jesus Christ....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/military-leaders-iran-war-trump-172548999.html
This is Trump's chief spiritual advisor. Gives me serious Gwen Walz vibes. And yes, she is on her 3rd marriage.
https://twitter.com/i/status/2029199375365509503
You know damn well what Christian nationalism is
I don't know what it is anymore. I used to think I knew, but it seems the popular definition is continually expanding.
Common and consistent definition:
Christian nationalism is a form of religious nationalism that focuses on promoting the Christian views of its followers in order to achieve prominence or dominance in political, cultural, and social life. In countries with a state church, Christian nationalists seek to preserve the status of a Christian state.
Pete Hegseth and Christian Nationalism:
- Church Affiliation and Beliefs: Hegseth is a member of the Communion of Reformed Evangelical Churches (CREC), a conservative, patriarchal denomination. This network is associated with Doug Wilson, an Idaho pastor who has explicitly identified as a Christian nationalist.
- Controversial Invitations: In February 2026, Hegseth invited Doug Wilson to lead a monthly prayer meeting at the Pentagon. Wilson is known for arguing that women should not vote, defending the "affectionate" nature of Southern slavery, and calling for a "Christian theocracy".
- Support for "Christian America": Hegseth has promoted a "Christian America" message, including at events like the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) convention, arguing that the nation's Christian heritage should be embraced in government spaces.
- "Woke" to "Warrior" Shift: Hegseth has expressed a desire to shift the military from being "woke" to a "warrior" culture, aiming to gut diversity, equity, and inclusion initiatives, which he views as a "religion" for "woke zealots".
- Views on Women and Combat: Hegseth has questioned women serving in combat roles and has been criticized for supporting views that women should not vote or hold high leadership positions.
- "Spiritual Battle": Hegseth has referred to the need for building fundamentalist Christian education systems as part of a "spiritual battle".
- Impact on the Pentagon: Hegseth's actions have drawn significant criticism for eroding the separation of church and state, with some calling it a, "disrupting the 'longstanding separation of church and state' but only if 'longstanding' is limited to recent decades," according to a quote in the report. [1, 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10]
You know damn well what Christian nationalism is
I don't know what it is anymore. I used to think I knew, but it seems the popular definition is continually expanding.
I think the problem is that opponents sometimes conflate it with other labels that mean different things, but often overlap Christian nationalism in the public discourse. So there are certainly, for pretty obvious reasons, Christian nationalists who tend toward racism, antisemitism, nativism, dominionism, etc., but those beliefs by no means are necessary aspects of Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is really just assertion that the United States is at its core a Christian nation, and that Christianity should therefore be a central part of American public and civic life, and that Christianity is in some sense necessary for one to claim a true American identity.
You know damn well what Christian nationalism is
I don't know what it is anymore. I used to think I knew, but it seems the popular definition is continually expanding.
Common and consistent definition:
Christian nationalism is a form of religious nationalism that focuses on promoting the Christian views of its followers in order to achieve prominence or dominance in political, cultural, and social life.
Why would any Christian not want Christianity to be prominent in their political, cultural, and social life?
Also, why wouldn't any human want their views to be prominent in their political, cultural, and social life, whether they're an atheist, Buddhist, or Muslim?
Once again, you guys are saying nothing.
Common and consistent definition:
Interesting choice to include the last 90% of your copy and paste post about a guy who was a relative nobody until about 18 months ago, but it is wikipedia.
For the sake of argument, I'll buy your first paragraph despite having a few minor quibbles with it that honestly don't amount to much in the big picture.
My original point is based on how people who claim to be Christian and openly practice their Christian views are now increasingly painted as Christian Nationalists without meeting the criteria of your definition by people I consider anti-Christian. The US was founded on the idea of freedom of religion. You increasingly see the progressive left using the Christian Nationalist smear against people they disagree with because those people overwhelmingly skew conservative right. You see the same thing where the right smears people they don't agree with as socialists or even communists because of their views on government involvement in certain aspects of the economy.
I'll be interested to see how CNN covers this in their upcoming special.
I just listened to an interesting take on religion in politics this morning.
Starts around the 39 min mark and is 12 minutes or so long.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
POTFB
You know damn well what Christian nationalism is
I don't know what it is anymore. I used to think I knew, but it seems the popular definition is continually expanding.
I think the problem is that opponents sometimes conflate it with other labels that mean different things, but often overlap Christian nationalism in the public discourse. So there are certainly, for pretty obvious reasons, Christian nationalists who tend toward racism, antisemitism, nativism, dominionism, etc., but those beliefs by no means are necessary aspects of Christian nationalism. Christian nationalism is really just assertion that the United States is at its core a Christian nation, and that Christianity should therefore be a central part of American public and civic life, and that Christianity is in some sense necessary for one to claim a true American identity.
I think we generally agree. The conflation of terms and the subsequent expansion as a result of that conflation just waters down any criticism based on the term. Everyone is racist, fascist, woke, etc... Terms used to have a more precise meaning and now seem to devolve into nearly ad hominem statements or attacks.
Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
POTFB
Christian nationalism is really just assertion that the United States is at its core a Christian nation, and that Christianity should therefore be a central part of American public and civic life, and that Christianity is in some sense necessary for one to claim a true American identity.
Nope.
There is no such thing as Christian Nationalism. It is 100% a strawman created to focus criticism on cherry-picked beliefs.
That’s not to say there are no people who believe as you allege, but those are simply people who believe as you allege. That’s it. There are Christians who believe all kinds of things.
The only thing all Christian’s have in common is the concept of grace and being saved. Political beliefs are not part of it.
Christian nationalism is really just assertion that the United States is at its core a Christian nation, and that Christianity should therefore be a central part of American public and civic life, and that Christianity is in some sense necessary for one to claim a true American identity.
Nope.
There is no such thing as Christian Nationalism. It is 100% a strawman created to focus criticism on cherry-picked beliefs.
That’s not to say there are no people who believe as you allege, but those are simply people who believe as you allege. That’s it. There are Christians who believe all kinds of things.
The only thing all Christian’s have in common is the concept of grace and being saved. Political beliefs are not part of it.
You're statement is patently false and ridiculous. You admit something exists while also denying that it's a thing. It sounds like your real complaint is simply that it has a name. Well, tough luck.
*sigh* Jesus Christ....
https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/military-leaders-iran-war-trump-172548999.html
This is Trump's chief spiritual advisor. Gives me serious Gwen Walz vibes. And yes, she is on her 3rd marriage.
https://twitter.com/i/status/2029199375365509503
I'd let her hit it.
If men were any more stupid, we would have breed for the extinction of women. Proof yet again that WE are the best thing they have going for them.
Yea, Umm, dear subjects. That National Mourning Ceremony we planned, well we have had a few things pop up and are going to postpone that for a while until, well umm... We will let you know when things cool down.
If men were any more stupid, we would have breed for the extinction of women. Proof yet again that WE are the best thing they have going for them.
I don’t care about the name. I object to people creating a movement based on a fiction for the sole purpose of supporting continuing criticism. We have way too much of that crap.
I don’t care about the name. I object to people creating a movement based on a fiction for the sole purpose of supporting continuing criticism. We have way too much of that crap.
Maybe we do have too much of it, but Christian nationalism isn't a fiction. It's a real thing that some people believe in. As for the "purpose of supporting continuing criticism" maybe you should have read my original commentary more carefully before responding to it.
The notion that there is a conservative patina on Christian Nationalism is hogwash. Everything that anybody would agree with is present among Christians. Singling out a discrete set of beliefs and calling that “Christian Nationalism” is meaningless.
Yea, Umm, dear subjects. That National Mourning Ceremony we planned, well we have had a few things pop up and are going to postpone that for a while until, well umm... We will let you know when things cool down.
"he'll just end up dead anyway"
