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Goat
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@goat sudden onset yes. But many had complained for a long time that something was up.  That he was being sequestered.  That this isn’t okay. This was intentional and calculated and it defrauded the American public.  

 

they made me hate the Dem party  

I mean it when I say there has never been a worse, dirtier, more culpable administration than what we lived through with Biden Harris. Terrible people. 

I know you mean it. I don't think you're making it up or bloviating for partisan purposes. I just think you're overreacting. It was bad. But it wasn't the worst thing ever. Like I said the other day in the other thread, this whole "Worst ever" debate we are stuck in is getting tiring for me.

Biden was bad. Trump is bad. Anyone who needs a fainting couch over how bad they are needs to read up on guys like Buchanan and Harding.

 


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Posted : 08/12/2026 6:55 pm
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@goat the difference.  The material difference is that they affect our lives now. Directly. A bail project murder literally in front of where my daughter and friends hang out. A virtue signaling closure that cost me about $4 million bucks.  For what?  And now we have AOC?  Mamdani?  These are people who know nothing.  Stupid people. African studies rappers. I genuinely hate the Dem party.  

and unlike others in my tribe I stumped for Dems. Walked in the heat of fla putting up yard signs for Dems.  Anti tort reform. Anti wars. Anti trickle down.  

dems today are a perfect combination of stupid and crooked. It’s sad. No better example than the Biden administration 

from the bottom of my heart when I hear someone say they are voting Dem I think they’re a moron 


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:03 pm
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@goat I would not give AOC a managerial role in any of my three failing businesses and she is the leader of the Dem party.  That’s how lost democrats are. And people have tds. Trump this and that. He’s a shit leader. Liar. Grifter. Incompetent. But miles better than the pure insanity of Dems today. Open borders. Robin Hood gov. Defund. These people are at once so stupid and so uneducated they think billionaires and rich people won’t move. Won’t adjust. Corp inversions and the rest.   

This country has never in modern times faced a threat like Dems.  Motivated by pure ignorance.  


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:12 pm
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@goat the difference.  The material difference is that they affect our lives now. Directly. A bail project murder literally in front of where my daughter and friends hang out. A virtue signaling closure that cost me about $4 million bucks.  For what?  And now we have AOC?  Mamdani?  These are people who know nothing.  Stupid people. African studies rappers. I genuinely hate the Dem party.  

and unlike others in my tribe I stumped for Dems. Walked in the heat of fla putting up yard signs for Dems.  Anti tort reform. Anti wars. Anti trickle down.  

dems today are a perfect combination of stupid and crooked. It’s sad. No better example than the Biden administration 

from the bottom of my heart when I hear someone say they are voting Dem I think they’re a moron 

Someone posted a meme on reddit today about how 9/11 ended Ellen's career (9/11 inspired the formation of My Chemical Romance, who was a musical inspiration for Stephenie Meyer, without whose books E. L. James wouldn't have written her bullshit, which turned into movies starring Dakota Johnson, whose appearance on Ellen was the beginning of the end of Ellen's positive public image) - butterfly effect type stuff.

Well, Buchanan -> Civil War -> Reconstruction -> Jim Crow -> Civil Rights Movement -> Marxist/Critical Theory Penetration of Civil Rights -> Black Lives Matter -> Current Race Relations

Things can have effects for a long time. A century from now, people will be dealing with things that Biden and Trump caused. And some of it may turn out to be positive. It's just recency bias and overreaction that cause anyone to denounce either of them as the devil incarnate right now.

 


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:22 pm
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@goat very good post. What Harris had hasnt happened in half a century plus with a convention system pick. What I think is unique about current Dems is their attack on really foundational stuff. Central tenets. Institutions.  Mores.  DNA shit. The dna of America.  I think you had a great post but I stand by my proposition that America has never witnessed anything as intrinsically dangerous as the Dem party in 2026. 
if you love America.  Are proud of what this country has built. You cannot be a Dem. They will ruin the country


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:31 pm
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@goat very good post. What Harris had hasnt happened in half a century plus with a convention system pick. What I think is unique about current Dems is their attack on really foundational stuff. Central tenets. Institutions.  Mores.  DNA shit. The dna of America.  I think you had a great post but I stand by my proposition that America has never witnessed anything as intrinsically dangerous as the Dem party in 2026. 
if you love America.  Are proud of what this country has built. You cannot be a Dem. They will ruin the country

Yeah, I don't agree with that. I think it's hyperbolic. BUT, where I live, I'll be voting for blue dog Democrats, not progressives, so it's pretty safe talk on my end. If I had to stare at a ballot and decide whether or not to click a box next to Cori Bush, I might find this stance a bit more difficult.

 


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:38 pm
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@goat if you look at what nyc has done. These people are the locus of the dem party. Who he has put in his cabinet. What he believes. What they believe. It’s not hyperbolic.  It’s playing out before us


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:40 pm
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@bar-down I don't think they are the locus of the party, although I'm not sure we'll get proof of that this year. In a normal year, I'd tell you the Dems will win in states like Michigan and lose in states like Minnesota, and the party elite will smack the left wing down a bit. But this year we are facing a blue wave, so progressives might win in areas they normally wouldn't.

But in the long run, I don't think the party survives by catering to the left. This country just doesn't have a big enough left to sustain it.

Bah. None of it matters, anyway. AI and the post-job world will completely upend everything we debate about in the next decade or two.


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:48 pm
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@goat I think you’re wrong about AI. I think Lars is wrong too. I think we’re going to get Ai resistance soon and it’s going to end up about as influential as Microsoft office.  

now. That’s coming from a business man who very well might just be the worst business man on earth. But I stand by it.  

as for the crazy dem party I’m not too concerned with midterms.  Divided gov is the best gov. Their nominee for prez will be the bellwether 


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Posted : 08/12/2026 7:52 pm
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@bar-down I'm extremely serious about my AI prediction. But if anyone has ever been wrong more than you, it's me, so I'm not putting money down on it.


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Posted : 08/12/2026 8:10 pm
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@bar-down I'm extremely serious about my AI prediction. But if anyone has ever been wrong more than you, it's me, so I'm not putting money down on it.

I think from a capability standpoint what you predict is possible, but I think it’s going to take more time than that.  It’s going to be more expensive at enterprise levels than many think which will stem the tide a little on adoption & replacement of people.  I agree with Murt that there’s going to be some resistance to completely turning operations over as well, although I think it will be much more impactful & influential than MS Office.

 


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Posted : 08/13/2026 5:30 am
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@goat I think you’re wrong about AI. I think Lars is wrong too. I think we’re going to get Ai resistance soon and it’s going to end up about as influential as Microsoft office.  

now. That’s coming from a business man who very well might just be the worst business man on earth. But I stand by it.  

as for the crazy dem party I’m not too concerned with midterms.  Divided gov is the best gov. Their nominee for prez will be the bellwether 

I think you over estimate the baseline office desk jockey in America. AI is already culling the herd and it’s not even grown up yet. Is it replacing whole jobs? Close. Call centers will die. Within two years. 

I work for a company owned by a very conservative old school non tech company. They’ve already started educating their workforce on how to use AI in their everyday tasks. We’re building AI assisted automated workflows. It’s not cheap but it’s way cheaper than people. The older, cheaper models can still be effective. Again, I stress - WE’RE NOT PARTICULARLY TECHIE AS A COMPANY. The applications being developed to assist you using Chat GPT and its competitors for optical scanning and other mundane tasks are so good and so easy to use that not using them is suicide. 

productivity will boom (again). There is no other play than replacing people. It will take the federal government halting it which I just don’t think is even in the realm of possibility. 

Best I can tell folks is if you survive I’ll try and get you higher pay, figuring the cost savings shouldn’t only end up in management/owner’s pockets. 

I think you’re wrong on this. In our kind of capitalism, price is king and services will get cheaper. The trade off will be jobs. Going to be a really disruptive next ten years. Buckle up. 

 


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