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hooky
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I have seen this "we have year end money and have to spend it" stuff. Anyone who doesn't believe it wastes money, huge amounts of money, has no idea much this happens. 

I despise the way they spend our money and this is part of the reason why.   I wish the .gov would do zero based budgeting.

I agree. I cannot help but think the no big deal group wouldn't think that if HHS bought the piano at the end of the year. 

If government efficiency is a goal, why allow crazy "use it or lose it" purchases.

 

 

 

That is the nature of budgets. And it’s not specific to government. If you come in under budget, you get slashed. 

If you want to see massive budget slashes government wide, we may be on to something. 

But that’s not what you want. 

 

That's not the nature of budgets. I don't budget that way.  I've never been in a privately held company where that shit would fly.  You know why?  It's their money. That's not the nature of budgets

 


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Posted : 03/13/2026 12:00 am
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hooky
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Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @arthur-dent

I have seen this "we have year end money and have to spend it" stuff. Anyone who doesn't believe it wastes money, huge amounts of money, has no idea much this happens. 

I despise the way they spend our money and this is part of the reason why.   I wish the .gov would do zero based budgeting.

Zero based budgeting sounds great until you apply it to the revenue side. Then it just boils down to "do more with less." 

 

Do really believe that applies to our federal budget and that "doing more with less" is not possible?

There are only a handful of years where tax receipts haven't had a YOY increase.

 


Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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Posted : 03/13/2026 12:11 am
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Mrs. Cox would have had you begging for mercy, even though she was in her 70s.

Pics or GTFO

 

You don't want pics of that old crow.

 

ambivalent

 


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Posted : 03/13/2026 9:10 am
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Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @arthur-dent

I have seen this "we have year end money and have to spend it" stuff. Anyone who doesn't believe it wastes money, huge amounts of money, has no idea much this happens. 

I despise the way they spend our money and this is part of the reason why.   I wish the .gov would do zero based budgeting.

-When you buy something for yourself using your own cash, you get exactly what you want and there is great incentive to keep the cost down
 
-If you buy something for yourself but use someone else’s cash you get what you want but the incentive to keep the cost down is diminished
 
-If you buy something for someone else using someone else’s cash there is no incentive to keep the cost down and you don’t necessarily get them what they need or even want.
 
This is what our massively bloated government does every single minute of every day and BOTH sides are guilty as hell

 

 


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Posted : 03/13/2026 4:32 pm
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Posted by: @hooky

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Zero based budgeting sounds great until you apply it to the revenue side. Then it just boils down to "do more with less." 

Do really believe that applies to our federal budget and that "doing more with less" is not possible?

There are only a handful of years where tax receipts haven't had a YOY increase.

We might be talking past each other.

I had a job once where we had an absolutely astonishingly good year, mostly due to the stars aligning and the weather being perfect the entire season.

The following year, while I bumped my new revenue projection above the prior years projection, it still wasn't equal to the actual numbers we had for the outlier season. The higher ups had a fit. They'd never seen anyone budget less revenue that the previous year. I gave them my reasoning and showed them how I'd arrived at the numbers, but they weren't having it. I also bumped up payroll expense and a couple other lines, but they weren't having any of that either. My numbers would have taken a nice chunk to the bottom line -- significantly more than the prior years projected numbers -- but still would have been short of the actual numbers prior.

Again, do more with less.

 


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Posted : 03/13/2026 5:01 pm
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Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @carramrod

Posted by: @arthur-dent

Posted by: @hooky

Posted by: @arthur-dent

I have seen this "we have year end money and have to spend it" stuff. Anyone who doesn't believe it wastes money, huge amounts of money, has no idea much this happens. 

I despise the way they spend our money and this is part of the reason why.   I wish the .gov would do zero based budgeting.

I agree. I cannot help but think the no big deal group wouldn't think that if HHS bought the piano at the end of the year. 

If government efficiency is a goal, why allow crazy "use it or lose it" purchases.

 

 

 

That is the nature of budgets. And it’s not specific to government. If you come in under budget, you get slashed. 

If you want to see massive budget slashes government wide, we may be on to something. 

But that’s not what you want. 

 

That's not the nature of budgets. I don't budget that way.  I've never been in a privately held company where that shit would fly.  You know why?  It's their money. That's not the nature of budgets

 

 

You don’t budget that way because it’s your money. 

I may have overreached when I said private companies and citizens budget that way. Not always the case. But it’s mostly the case. 

Government budgets that way because it’s not their money. 

 


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Posted : 03/13/2026 5:26 pm
hooky
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We might be talking past each other.

Yep, right past each other.  I agree.


Hope is not optimism, which expects things to turn out well, but something rooted in the conviction that there is good worth working for. - Seamus Heaney, Irish poet and likely Hoosier basketball fan.
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