I have not seen a minute of the action, but to-date I am impressed with the results.....UNC beat USC 88-70, and USC has generally been projected to be as good or better (most often) than IU coming into the season.
IU hasn't put out cumulative stats for the first 2 exhibitions but here's what I've noted concerning the first two games (hopefully the #s are pretty accurate):
--PT: Sherrell 52M; Lindsey 50; Harris 46; Mustaf 46; Yigi 40; Manhertz 35; Burton 33; Alexis 33; Sisley 28; Prince-Moody 11
--TPs: Lindsey 32; Burton 24; Harris 24; Alexis 19; Sherrel 17; Yigi 15; Mustaf 15; Sisley 8; Manhertz 7; Prine-Moody 3
--Rebounds: Sherrell 19; Yigi 16; Mustaf 13; Manhertz 11; Alexis 7; Sisley 6; Lindsey 6; Burton 5; Harris 2; Prince-Moody 1
--3s: 6/15, 40% Lindsey; 6/17, 35% Harris; 4/6, 67% Burton; 2/7, 28.5% Sherrill; 1/3, 33% Mustaf; 0-2, 0%, Prince-Moody
--Comments/Notes--
Harris: 24 points in 46M, almost all 3s, hitting 35%; 4-4 on FTs; 4 TOs, 2 assists; 2 rebs, 2 steals. He's going to shoot a lot of 3s, for better or worse.
Yigi: 15 points, 16 rebs in 40M. 6/11. 55% on FGs, 3-8, 37.5% on FTs. He's surprised me to date. The comments about him have almost all been positive.
Sherrell: 17 points, 19 rebs in 52M. Presently only 5/11 on 2s, 2/7 on 3s
Burton: 24 points in 33M. 5/13 on 2 pointers, 4/6 on 3s. 5 rebs, 4 TOs, 3 assists, 2 steals.
Lindsey: Has taken 15 3s, 6 2s. 6 for 6 on FTs. 32 points, 6 rebs, 5 assists, 3 TOs, 2 steals in 50M.
Sisley: 8 points, 6 rebs in 28M
Manhertz: 7 points, 11 rebs, 4 assists in 35M. But only 2/7 on 3s, 0/3 on 2s.
Mustaf: 15 pts, 13 rebs in 47M. 5 TOs to only 2 assists. Only shooting 28% overall, all but 3 being 2s. (1/3 on those). Is 4-4 on FTs; Doubtful that he will be an efficient offensive player. Would like to see him concentrate more on D and rebounding.
Alexis: 19 points, 7 rebounds in 30M. 54% ON 2S, 71% (5/7) on FTs.
Prince-Moody: Has he been hurt? Has only played 11 minutes total with 3 pts, 1 rebound,
Thoughts?
I have not seen a minute of the action, but to-date I am impressed with the results.....UNC beat USC 88-70, and USC has generally been projected to be as good or better (most often) than IU coming into the season.
IU hasn't put out cumulative stats for the first 2 exhibitions but here's what I've noted concerning the first two games (hopefully the #s are pretty accurate):
--PT: Sherrell 52M; Lindsey 50; Harris 46; Mustaf 46; Yigi 40; Manhertz 35; Burton 33; Alexis 33; Sisley 28; Prince-Moody 11
--TPs: Lindsey 32; Burton 24; Harris 24; Alexis 19; Sherrel 17; Yigi 15; Mustaf 15; Sisley 8; Manhertz 7; Prine-Moody 3
--Rebounds: Sherrell 19; Yigi 16; Mustaf 13; Manhertz 11; Alexis 7; Sisley 6; Lindsey 6; Burton 5; Harris 2; Prince-Moody 1
--3s: 6/15, 40% Lindsey; 6/17, 35% Harris; 4/6, 67% Burton; 2/7, 28.5% Sherrill; 1/3, 33% Mustaf; 0-2, 0%, Prince-Moody
--Comments/Notes--
Harris: 24 points in 46M, almost all 3s, hitting 35%; 4-4 on FTs; 4 TOs, 2 assists; 2 rebs, 2 steals. He's going to shoot a lot of 3s, for better or worse.
Yigi: 15 points, 16 rebs in 40M. 6/11. 55% on FGs, 3-8, 37.5% on FTs. He's surprised me to date. The comments about him have almost all been positive.
Sherrell: 17 points, 19 rebs in 52M. Presently only 5/11 on 2s, 2/7 on 3s
Burton: 24 points in 33M. 5/13 on 2 pointers, 4/6 on 3s. 5 rebs, 4 TOs, 3 assists, 2 steals.
Lindsey: Has taken 15 3s, 6 2s. 6 for 6 on FTs. 32 points, 6 rebs, 5 assists, 3 TOs, 2 steals in 50M.
Sisley: 8 points, 6 rebs in 28M
Manhertz: 7 points, 11 rebs, 4 assists in 35M. But only 2/7 on 3s, 0/3 on 2s.
Mustaf: 15 pts, 13 rebs in 47M. 5 TOs to only 2 assists. Only shooting 28% overall, all but 3 being 2s. (1/3 on those). Is 4-4 on FTs; Doubtful that he will be an efficient offensive player. Would like to see him concentrate more on D and rebounding.
Alexis: 19 points, 7 rebounds in 30M. 54% ON 2S, 71% (5/7) on FTs.
Prince-Moody: Has he been hurt? Has only played 11 minutes total with 3 pts, 1 rebound,
Thoughts?
I have not seen any either but based off the scores they are playing like and elite 8 or final 4 team and yet were not even listed in the top 25. I am guessing this will be a top ten team i america by the end of december and a top three big ten school.
Whip Kentucky and Arkansas's asses and I will begin to lean toward IUBB is cooking with some high dollar gasoline.
@arioznahoosier4554 I sense some sarcasm here... ha ha. But I hope you're right!
At least we look like a regular decent basketball team with a good mix of height, defense, skill, and shooting. We all had to go on faith last year that the threes would rain from the sky and cover our deficiencies.
As Cig might say, they've got to put it on the floor. I'm sure it will be two steps forward one step back for much of the season. But we spent, and a good coach should be able to teach his guys and get them to gel quickly. It's the new era.
I still am a little bummed the good OOC games against Arkansas and Kentucky aren't at home.
@openwheel Missouri game in Bloomington could be a great matchup. Not gonna have the buzz or hype that Arkansas or Kentucky would. But they're going to be very talented. Jason Crowe Jr is likely gonna be a stud for them.
At least we look like a regular decent basketball team with a good mix of height, defense, skill, and shooting. We all had to go on faith last year that the threes would rain from the sky and cover our deficiencies.
As Cig might say, they've got to put it on the floor. I'm sure it will be two steps forward one step back for much of the season. But we spent, and a good coach should be able to teach his guys and get them to gel quickly. It's the new era.
I still am a little bummed the good OOC games against Arkansas and Kentucky aren't at home.
Since my original post, I have been able to watch the exhibition game on the net. It's a nice version.....you can watch the entire game in about 25M.
After watching the actual game, I'm going to walk my initial enthusiasm back a bit. Let me explain why.
When it comes to IU basketball, I'm a glass half-empty guy. I tend to focus on the negatives. A direct result of watching 25 years of teams coached by the greatest game coach in college basketball history.
My biggest problem I had with DeVries last year was that he did not understand the importance of good shot selection. I am convinced you can have a team that shoots a large # of 3s and still show some discipline with respect with the shots you take. I'm thinking of Rick Pitino's Kentucky teams in that regard.
Do you remember DeVrie's comment that he told Harris he'd never complain about him shooting from 30 feet? Essentially, that he had a complete green light. You know what? He's not that good. And you cannot trust him to make good decisions if there are no rules. Lindsey had a great game the other night, and I like him as a player. But he & Harris will be raining 3s. Some nights it will work, some nights it won't. But you don't win a BTC or a NC playing that way.
Another example....remember Cig and Marsh's gold shoes? In basketball, we get two guys wearing bright blue shoes and Moody wearing one red shoe and one blue shoe. He let the guy go out on the court like that. Not a serious outfit.
DeVries has put together a good roster. The players like him. We're playing good D and rebounding. The recruiting is looking good. But he needs to change the offensive approach if we're ever to be serious championship contenders. You can't give 5-7 possessions away per game.
Not impressed with little shot selection on threes either. Like I had said, don't get the philosophy.
Lindsey took one the announcers called a 'heater shot' or whatever. Where he's feeling it! He was moving sideways, turned and shot without a single pass getting us into the offense. He missed. I don't understand a coach not pulling the guy over for a talk, or even sitting his ass down. You can get that type of shot at any time, it takes no effort.
But, Coach knows basketball, and if he believes that's the right way to play, so be it. He has his reasons.
My problem is what that does that do to the other players working the offense? Seemed like it led to guys standing and watching because they knew it was about to be jacked up. Maybe call them over for a talk 'if one of our gunners has the ball... work hard for position for a rebound.'
Anyway, I like our high post action. Yigi is going to work well from there, he has good hands and seems to pass pretty well. Might be more of a post up guy, but he can start from there anyway. Sokolov even looked good in the first game in his few minutes, and he looks like he can handle the ball on a drive, for a big man.
It'll be fun! I'll just put in earplugs when I hear 'green light' and see some from 28 feet. Or wear a mouth guard so I don't grind my teeth too much.
Not impressed with little shot selection on threes either. Like I had said, don't get the philosophy.
Lindsey took one the announcers called a 'heater shot' or whatever. Where he's feeling it! He was moving sideways, turned and shot without a single pass getting us into the offense. He missed. I don't understand a coach not pulling the guy over for a talk, or even sitting his ass down. You can get that type of shot at any time, it takes no effort.
But, Coach knows basketball, and if he believes that's the right way to play, so be it. He has his reasons.
My problem is what that does that do to the other players working the offense? Seemed like it led to guys standing and watching because they knew it was about to be jacked up. Maybe call them over for a talk 'if one of our gunners has the ball... work hard for position for a rebound.'
Anyway, I like our high post action. Yigi is going to work well from there, he has good hands and seems to pass pretty well. Might be more of a post up guy, but he can start from there anyway. Sokolov even looked good in the first game in his few minutes, and he looks like he can handle the ball on a drive, for a big man.
It'll be fun! I'll just put in earplugs when I hear 'green light' and see some from 28 feet. Or wear a mouth guard so I don't grind my teeth too much.
Yes.........I hate it when I hear that 'heat check' comment...and you know, when a guy shoots one of those its generally downhill for him thereafter in that particular game.
I'm ok with not posting up Yigi. He & Sherrell can set up great picks for the little guys and roll to the basket. We don't need Yigi for much O. I really want Burton, Lindsey, Harris, Musta, Moody and the freshmen to shot the ball, but with more discretion, Share the ball. Pass for a better shot. Only bad thing is neither Sherrell nor Yigi can actually elevate for slams against good competition...but there is Alexis, who can. I hope to see Sherrell high and Alexis low more often for that reason.
@mushroomgod You do realize they've only played 2 preseason games, right? They have an entirely new roster, so it makes sense they are trying new things, and will be addressing things like shot selection. Might not be during the game, but that doesn't mean it's not being addressed on film. BTW, they've won both games and just beat UNC by almost 30.
@mushroomgod You do realize they've only played 2 preseason games, right? They have an entirely new roster, so it makes sense they are trying new things, and will be addressing things like shot selection. Might not be during the game, but that doesn't mean it's not being addressed on film. BTW, they've won both games and just beat UNC by almost 30.
I didn't think IU played very well, UNC and especially their guards were horrible.
Malone is probably going to have a long year. There's not much talent on that roster when compared to the 20 million it cost.
Exhibition games aren't very good indicators though, coaches are trying out new lineups, yanking players in and out and it's tough for the players to get in a good rhythm. In a real game I highly doubt UNC goes 10 deep and plays all the starters less than 30 minutes.
as much as i love iu bbal its why it will be hard for me to get excited anymore. i got other stuff in life so its no big deal really its just hard to root for paid college players who are paid like pros
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