@openwheel IMO CDD will be here as long as there is improvement season to season. More wins, better seeds, winning some tournament games. We say we want the next banner but no Big Ten team has done that in 25 years so unlikely that he'd ever be fired for not achieving that. Izzo will retire at MSU despite not repeating that. If CDD tops out at fairly regular S16s and the occasional FF I think he'll be here for as long as he wants. Now, whether he is that good a coach, at this level, remains to be seen but it's not a great start.
But the honeymoon is surely over. After the last two coaches there is no more patience for double-digit-loss seasons, finishing mid or lower in the conference, being on the bubble or missing the tournament. Those things will need to change next year, or seat will start getting hot. The fans are in the mood of RMK when he gave his "I'm tired of an 8-10 record" locker room speech.
@tjinman1987 good point. Should be only able to go up from here other than Wilkerson.
any info on why Drew won’t be here much longer or just a hunch?
@cavanagh It's more than just a hunch. What I can share is that Adams has tried/is trying for the Ball State job. I'd be stunned if he got it (I think they'll hire a guy that has won games as a head coach at D2 and would bring some of his roster with him). For lack of a better way of putting this, he's seeking an off-ramp and no one at IU will stop him from getting off at the first one he finds. Obviously, the next question is: who replaces him? I think Michael Lewis makes a ton of sense (proven assistant in the Big Ten with the in-state ties) but I don't know what DeVries will want.
@iunorth Agree with everything you state, except winning the natty was lucky. Bringing in players that perform well under pressure and execute when needed in a consistent manner, make minimal mistakes, and maintain composure and complacency is not lucky. Hiring Cignetti was a genius coaching hire.
But but but ... Dolson is jazzed about how things are going. The future is bright.Never seen such a team that I hate. This team and coach are not fun to watch. Oh and Bailey sucks.
yall sure you want to keep this guy around for another year. Really
So.....why would Dullson put out that particular statement when he did? My supposition is that he knew the BTT was going to be a disaster and it was better to do it before, rather after, the natives got all riled up.
If he had any class, he'd apologize for these results. Directly would be best, but something like "Coach Devries and I agree that the results of the 2025-26 basketball season were not satisfactory for this program" would be better than nothing. I think we might see something like that 30-60 days out, but now's the time it should be done. I would bet he IS apologizing to those that paid for this team and those he wants to pay for the next team.
@hoosiers94 I wouldn’t say perfect is necessary. Just better at really all facets of his job. Talent evaluation. Picking guys with the right mental makeup. Making sure we have talent and depth at all positions. Making sure we have physicality on the roster. Coaching them better. Holding them to a higher standard. Basically everything. Just needs to be better at everything. Not perfect, just better.
How to admit "I was wrong all along about everything" without posting "I was wrong all along about everything".
@openwheel Cig had a handful of very good years prior to that, and did it at multiple stops. He was on other major programs radar. And Dolson created that opening. He had to find the money for Allen's buyout. Its not like some fortuitous event where the prior coach retired, and some fairy dropped the idea in to Dolson's head to hire an unproven, over 60 year old, that had never coached a high major team before. Dolson hired him because his history, his mentality, and his approach fit what IU football needed, at that time. He knew Cignetti would win more than he lost, at IU, and that's what he, and IU needed. He was criticized by many when he made the hire because of Cig's age, and because he had never coached at a high major. And when Cig came in guns blazing, most scoffed, if not made fun of him, and Dolson for the whole thing. Dolson responded by getting Cig basically everything he asked for, and needed, to build a program.
IU turning the football program around wasn't luck. Going to two CFP's and winning a natty in years 1 and 2, that was pretty lucky. But Cig was always going to win, at IU, and Dolson knew that.
This is what I meant by lucky. He had no idea Cig would win at the clip he has... winning like Bill Mallory type or thereabouts is what I would gather they were hoping for.. they got way more obviously. That's the part that's lucky
Glaring ugly game stat: In 50 minutes of play, Alexis & Bailey combined for a total of 2 rebounds. They accomplished their feat without Arrinten Page, the 6'11" NW big not playing in the game.
Among the many things that Doorknob failed at this year was getting the team to 'rebound as a team'. Meaning getting help from Dorn, Miles, Enright, Conerway, Wilkerson. While the scoring/shooting #s from those guys were generally equal or better than what they had done at the lower levels, all were down a little in rebounding (per time played). If all of them had averaged 1 rebound more, rather than 1 rebound less, per every 40 minutes, it would have been somewhat less brutal. (Alexis' rebounding #s were considerably down from last year, Bailey's the same).
I'm sure Wilkerson, as an example, thought "I'm not getting paid to rebound".
@hoosiers94 I wouldn’t say perfect is necessary. Just better at really all facets of his job. Talent evaluation. Picking guys with the right mental makeup. Making sure we have talent and depth at all positions. Making sure we have physicality on the roster. Coaching them better. Holding them to a higher standard. Basically everything. Just needs to be better at everything. Not perfect, just better.
How to admit "I was wrong all along about everything" without posting "I was wrong all along about everything".
hell of an effort to spin it and gaslight it as to make it appear it was never there. 
@mushroomgod Ha ha.... "how to let actual knowledgable posters know I'm not knowledgable"... without coming out to say it. I was actually one of the first posters on this board to raise concerns about their consistency. And I've never wavered from those concerns. Beyond that, most of my "sunshine pumping" has come out because I'm combatting posters like you, Cav, 94... that make blanket, absurd, negative statements. I know for some, its often done for effect, and its "rage baiting", as the kids would say. But when a guy that is actually pretty fiery, having red face yelling moments in nearly every game, gets a nickname like Doorknob, or Dullson... from a bunch of message board experts... and anyone dares questions that... sunshine pumper, holier than thou...
How about you all are just wrong, on some of these things?
DeVries has proven, in the past, that he can coach the game of basketball. He's had an uneven start at IU. And the finish to the season was very, very bad. And its a red flag, among other red flags. But he has many "green flags" too. We'll see where we go, from here. He needs to show improvements, quickly, in a number of areas. Its gonna be difficult for him to do so. But if it were easy, IU would have found a guy long ago that could do it better. And I suspect if he doesn't overcome the obstacles, and figure out how to markedly improve, he'll get fired... earlier than the last couple coaches have been fired.
I didn't disagree with any of that. Dolson had the buyout of Tom Allen almost pushed on him by donors if the conversations around these boards have any basis? Someone said a donor. But surely Allen was gone no matter what, so maybe it was Dolson all the way.@openwheel Cig had a handful of very good years prior to that, and did it at multiple stops. He was on other major programs radar. And Dolson created that opening. He had to find the money for Allen's buyout. Its not like some fortuitous event where the prior coach retired, and some fairy dropped the idea in to Dolson's head to hire an unproven, over 60 year old, that had never coached a high major team before. Dolson hired him because his history, his mentality, and his approach fit what IU football needed, at that time. He knew Cignetti would win more than he lost, at IU, and that's what he, and IU needed. He was criticized by many when he made the hire because of Cig's age, and because he had never coached at a high major. And when Cig came in guns blazing, most scoffed, if not made fun of him, and Dolson for the whole thing. Dolson responded by getting Cig basically everything he asked for, and needed, to build a program.
IU turning the football program around wasn't luck. Going to two CFP's and winning a natty in years 1 and 2, that was pretty lucky. But Cig was always going to win, at IU, and Dolson knew that.
My only disagreement was "He was criticized by many when he made the hire because of Cig's age". No he wasn't...
Or I was living in some alternate reality. Those who worried about the age were usually shouted down that it may work in our favor if he was successful. When 90% of people say 'wow, good hire for Indiana' you can't call the usual 10% criticizing age as any stress on Dolson.
Cig's prior successful stop was 8-5 and 6-5 at Elon, and good years at DII IU Pennsylvania. Nobody was beating down his door for that. Then yeah he ha a long good run at JMU. He was finally on a lot of radars then.
Doesn't matter - just saying Dolson didn't fire Tom Allen because Cignetti was available... So it was hugely lucky. Not some savant pick. BUT, he gets credit for it, the guy was 60 years old. So, yeah, NOT luck that he didn't blow it. With Dolson's resource work, we'd have won with some other good coach, but lucky the best one was available.
Oh and, "And when Cig came in guns blazing, most scoffed, if not made fun of him, and Dolson for the whole thing. " No they didn't. Most... enjoyed it. Some, whined. The country that had only the mindset "Indiana will always suck in football" made fun of it. And some, maybe many, Ill give you that, at Indiana who were down in the dumps about football, (but #### them for the decades of shit that we ate) or, those who actively held it back. Besides, has nothing to do with his choice being obvious or not.
... Those things will need to change next year, or seat will start getting hot. The fans are in the mood of RMK when he gave his "I'm tired of an 8-10 record" locker room speech.And good Lord, now we have to bellow "I'm tired of losing to Northwestern!" Instead of Purdue.
Times change.
Yeah, win solidly next year or the seat is very hot.
.. For lack of a better way of putting this, he's seeking an off-ramp and no one at IU will stop him from getting off at the first one he finds. ...So we need to get a little lucky, is my read on that.
Maybe Coach DeVries and Adams, work together well. So I shouldn't be happy to hear these things. And yeah, he does then have another coach to find. But after this season it seems remove and replace should work just fine.
Wasn't Adams his first hire, so was the guy helping out the earliest as we tried to recruit a roster? That's a strike...
Unless the VAUNTED lanaridi still has us as the last four in we now get to see DD work his magic in the portal. We are told all he needs is a full staff and more time. I 100% expect a killer portal class given what I have been told.
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